I thought the woman handing me this was going to ask for help reaching something, but she was handing this out to everyone.
There’s some loon still plastering their ill informed, anti Vax / anti mask stickers on every bit of street furniture across the nearby town centre.
I’m high risk as I’m immunosuppressed. I’ve had 8 vaccines, shielded for well over a year and always wore a mask. I finally caught COVID last week. There’s not a doubt in my mind that I would have died already if I hadn’t been vaccinated. My oxygen saturation levels just keep dropping - 90% today. I’m going to have to go to hospital ☹️
Best of luck, get well soon
I’m so sorry to hear it! I’m rooting for you and I know lots of other people are too!
Must be devastating, take care, friend.
I mean, that survey on the back isn’t lying, per se, but it’s taking things that are only minorly concerning and stating them in a way that is overblown or more alarming than they deserve.
“The best lies are based in truth”, I suppose.
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I think you’re right :(
What? Starting with the first one, thats already a lie. So is the third, they just don’t understand what long-term means.
A couple of them fall into the “technically true, but misleading territory” - I’m sure the person handing this out couldn’t identify which though - broken clock right twice a day and all
“Can you reverse effects” - no you can’t make your immune system forget how to work. Probably not what they are going for here though.
“Risk of […] or other side effects?” - yeah the vaccines generally give people a headache and short lived fever symptoms
“Have there been deaths?” - The astrazeneca vaccine had like a 0.000001% mortality risk (more likely to die driving to the pharmacy), and was pulled in many countries because that was deemed too dangerous. Person handing out the flyer has likely been parroting “mRNA vaccines cause blood clots” nonsense for years while being completely unaware that AZ was a traditional viral vector vaccine
“Are there doctors recommending NOT taking it” - yeah, there are many notable anti-vaccine doctors, what they typically have in common is they earned their doctorate in computer science, social studies, or some other field that gives them no qualifications to talk about immunology
I hate this type of stuff because it will work of off something like. masks impeded airflow. well yeah. thats the point. but you would have to be extrememly frail for it to effect you. Like on the level where you need supplementary oxygen even without a mask or just shy.
Wasn’t the immunity against covid relatively short-lived? I remember something about even getting covid not building long-term resistance, so that would mean that even the vaccine did reverse its effect at some point.
What I absolutely despise, and my own friend brought up in an online conversation, was the abortion embryos.
He claimed abortion clinics everywhere were a conspiracy to harvest matter for the vaccines, all government controlled.
After nagging him a lot, he provided a link from which he wanted to prove his claim.
Surprise surprise, the journalistic piece only said there were cells used to develop the vaccine, mostly for testing, from a single embryo from like 1970s.
We are both from Europe btw.
Are there doctors and scientists recommending people NOT to take it?
There are morons in every field. We can’t just look at the outliers.
But they’re the only ones who agree with meeeee!
Have they been subject to medium to long term safety testing on humans?
Yes. For over two years now. Using a population of hundreds of millions of people and a control population of people who xerox misinformation and hand it out to strangers in grocery stores.
News flash: the vaccinated ones are doing way better.
Using a population of
hundreds of millionsbillionsBillions of people were vaccinated. Hardly anything happened.
I remember being told everyone vaccinated would be dead within six months.
It’s been a very long six months.
Similarly, I don’t hear climate change deniers talking about the solar cycle anymore…
My own mother told me shit like this. Also “they” will turn off the electricity, internet, water,… omg
Did billions of people end up getting the mRNA vaccine? I thought the traditional vaccine was more widely deployed outside the United States.
In any case, the objection is nonsense. On populations this large, the number of side effects was slightly less than might have been expected at the outset. The researchers did good work.
As an addendum, the idea that a vaccine can produce side effects years down the line is a myth. A vaccine is a one-time payload - if any side effects are going to crop up, they will inevitably be in the few weeks following vaccination as your body processes it. After that, if nothing has gone awry, you’re good.
My 5G mobile coverage improves about 7 days after my annual shot.
I figure by 2027 I can ditch my home router.
I often think back and wonder about the 5G = COVID people on Twitter and r/conspiracy. Where are they now? Do they even feel in the slightest bit silly? Were they even real? So very many questions.
As an addendum addendum, I have some news for people worried about long-term effects of encountering only the spike proteins: you’re really going to hate the long-term effects from taking that virus raw.
As an addendum addendum addendum, most of those people who talk about spike proteins don’t know what spike proteins are. Or even just proteins.
As an addendum addendum addendum addendum, buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo.
Or, y’know, literal decades (centuries?) by medical professionals
For vaccines in general, yes. But kooky people that think this is some kind of trick are worried about it being an mRNA vaccine, which is indeed somewhat new. The idea has been around for about fifty years, but the first human clinical trials were only about a decade ago and COVID was the first large-scale human deployment.
Now, in fairness, they were almost entirely ready at the time. I would imagine, without COVID, we probably would’ve still seen mRNA vaccines become mainstream already, though maybe last year or this year instead of in 2021. But COVID stepped up the final stages of approval significantly.
I was referring to the usage of masks
Oh! Yes.
“Honey, remember we were talking about how catching Covid multiple times makes you stupid?”
We clearly need to bring back the big red rubber stamp. Just stamp it “SCAM” and leave it somewhere like a bulletin board. Because if they want to waste their money and paper, we should make it expensive for them. The stamp isn’t expensive really and ink pads are fairly cheap and last a long time.
It’s not a scam though.
A “Fake” or “Citation needed” or similar stamp would be more appropriate.
Also I think you underestimate how cheap it is to print in black and white. Judging by the leaflet it’s also a shit printer.
Hell, they could and probably are printing it at work.
Looks like a copy machine with all the artifacts, go to a library and it’s probably $0.01 a page
Honestly I’d love to go on that aircraft. Sounds like it’d be a pretty fun and exclusive experience.
Would you do it if the pilot contained aborted monkey cells?
Fun fact: I looked it up and those cells used in the vaccines are from a fetus aborted in the 1960s lmao. They make it sound like they are just raping monkeys by the hundreds to make vaccines
This is far more than mildly infuriating, this is actively putting peoples lives at risk, it’s enraging and quite scary, and why disabled and other vulnerable people are continuing to be more isolated than ever.
Fuck this person and the bullshit they spread. I rarely leave the house, but if I did and someone handed me something like this I’d grab the whole pile and set it on fire, casually roll over their feet with my wheelchair on my way, too (E: actually, scratch that, I wouldn’t want to get that close to the disease vector, even with my mask on).
I’ve had it twice now and don’t mind getting close, otherwise agreed on all counts. Let’s hide the
accelerantfairy juice under your chair, you can be getaway driver with clean hands. Tell me you have a rad van with wheel controlsAlas, no van, but plenty of spots to hold lighter fluid and stolen flyers as I roll away lol
It would annoy me just as much to receive pro vaccine propaganda. Even the vaccine commercials annoy me.
I don’t get it
Shut up.
No you!
At least those actually save lives.
I don’t care. You shouldn’t force vaccines on people.
You shouldn’t force vaccines on people.
“Good morning, sir. Would you care for this informational flyer about why you should get vaccinated?”
“DON’T YOU FORCE YOUR VACCINES ON ME!”
This is “mildly infuriating” land after all.
There’s a reason everyone needs to be vaccinated.
But I don’t expect you to read that because if you wanted to understand reality, you would have already.
You’d have a point if the disease wasn’t contagious.
Now, your opinion is hurting others. And it is the governments job prevent the public dying.
If you don’t want to be vaccinated, don’t participate in a society.
You shouldn’t force your diseases on people.
I just want the right to say no to a medical procedure
Then the government has the right to say no to you participating in their society.
And I bet you just want the right to decide which traffic laws to follow. Or which taxes to pay.
Go live on an isolated island if you don’t want to integrate with society.
I do get to choose what laws to obey. In the case of traffic laws you have to get busted by the police.
Also traffic laws are a little different than metrical tech. I want to be able to opt out if I feel something is not for me. Same thing with goverment technology that tracks are collects my data.
Nah, you don’t.
If you murder someone, you can’t go around claiming you don’t participate the law preventing murder.
And let that be exactly what the anti-vaxxers are doing when spreading a deadly disease.
I just want to visit a major theme park without getting measles. Or get an education without getting a once-defeated debilitating disease.
Me too but I don’t think it is ethical or right to force treatment on those who don’t want to be treated.
Just remind your relatives to get vaccinated. You technically could even tell them that you want them to get vaccinated become coming to a family get together but you will not have any way to prove it as they aren’t going to share there medical records.
Who has forced you to get vaccinated?
You shouldn’t force vaccines on people.
Are you suggesting that no children should receive vaccinations?
It should be up to the parent. With that being said, parents need to be given information about vaccines and what is recommended.
Then it is up to the government to prevent that disease bag from ruining society by preventing them from participating.
First you said you didn’t want to receive “pro vaccine propaganda” and now you’re saying parents need to be given information about vaccines.
parents ahould get their information from likeminded facebook groups (totally not propaganda)
I just don’t like the multimillion dollar ad campaign by vaccine companies. Surely there is a better way. Then again, it only mildly annoys me.
I’m not a ethics specialist and I am certainly not a doctor.
I just don’t give a shit. I’m looking for the good mustard leave me alone.
Why is it in English but funded by some Spanish speaking organization
To make it seem like legitimate. “These other doctors in other countries are speaking out about it, while the establishment in this country is suppressing the “truth””
Yeah, but just based on my own prejudices, the antivax community ain’t a huge fan of the Spanish- speaking community.
You’d be surprised what they’ll accept as evidence once they find out its coming from “one of the good ones”.
Not aborted monkeys!!
Why can’t they just go back to handing out Chick tracts? At least those were funny.
I was handed one of these when I was on a church trip as a teenager. One of many many reasons I became disillusioned, but pretty funny in retrospect.
Oh they’re great. I sometimes go look at their archives for a chuckle since all of their tracts are there for free. Most people’s favorite is Dark Dungeons, which is about how D&D is satanic, but I have to say that my favorite would be Angels? which is about a Christian rock band who gets a manager named “Lew Siffer” and don’t notice that there may be something weird there, but it’s probably because they’re very stupid, because their subsequent hit song goes something like “We’re gonna rock rock with the rock!”
Why can’t they just go back to handing out Chick tracts? At least those were funny.
Speaking about the website/comics itself, I don’t think ‘bait and switch’ would be a method that Jesus would want to be used to get people to convert to Christianity.
It’s sillier than that. Jack Chick seemed to genuinely believe that most people had just never heard of Jesus and once they do, they’ll instantly convert.
I’m still mad I never learnt any “real” spells, nor was never invited to join a coven, despite fulfilling a 1-20 D&D campaign. Dark Dungeons lied to me!!
I do love that Jack had apparently spent about 10 minutes in the library’s periodicals room reading articles about D&D and decided he knew enough about it to make that comic.
I’d never heard of Chick tracts before and just read that one and holy fucking zero to sixty hahaha
The incredible artwork too!
I’d be more annoyed that this person couldn’t even bother me with a more up to date conspiracy.
Right? They’re still triggered about masks?
Masks trap CO2 and other gases, impeding the breathing process and killing you slowly
…apparently at least 3 years slow, we’ll check back in with Cletus and his sisters(?) next spring.
Like how my vaccine was going to liquify me in 2 years. Then 3. Now 5.
Whenever I’m driving and the song on Apple Music pauses to buffer, I pull over and call Bill Gates to ask why the 5g in my vaccine isn’t boosting the signal
What a fucking knob
