Ai is not even truly ai right now, there’s no intelligence, it’s a statistical model made by training billions of stolen data to spit out the most similar thing to fit the prompt. It can get really creepy because it’s very convincing but on closer inspection it has jarring mistakes that trigger uncanny valley shit. Hallucinations is giving it too much credit, maybe when we get AGI in a decade that’ll fitting.
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AI has some pretty good uses.
But in the majority of junk on the market it is nothing but marketing bloatware.
More like people know when it’s just being used as a buzzword and are smart to avoid when that’s (often) the case
So AMD’s “AI”-supporting CPUs are bound to flop now?
I literally uninstalled and disabled every AI process and app in that latest galaxy AI update, which was the whole update btw. my reasons are:
1- privacy and data sharing.
2- the battery, cpu, ram of AI bloatware running in the background 247.
3- it was chaging and doing things which I didn’t want especially in the galary photo albums and camera AI modes.
I was considering a new Samsung phone - is that baked into it? (Assuming you’re talking Samsung anyway, based on the galaxy name)
To give you a second opinion from the other guy, I’ve had quite a few Samsungs in a row at this point. From Galaxy S2 to S23Ultra skipping years between every purchase.
They are effectively the premium vendor of Android, at least for western audiences. The midrange has some good ones, but other companies do well there too. At the high end, Samsung might lose out a bit to google on images of people, but the phones Samsung sell are well built, have a long support life, have lots of features that usually end up being imported to AOSP and/or Google’s own version of Android. The last few generations are the Apple of Android. The AI features they’ve added can be run on device if you want, and idk what the other guy is talking about, but the AI features aren’t that obnoxiously pushed on my device, the S23 Ultra. I have some things on, most things off. Then again, I’ve used HTC for a few years and iPhone for two weeks, so except for helping my dad with his Pixel 6a while that device lasted, I’ve not really tried other brands. The added customization on Samsung is kind of a problem for me, because I don’t feel like changing brands after being able to customize so much out of the box.
And I’ve never had issues connecting to a simple Windows computer, given that the phone has always been able to use the normal Plug-and-play driver that is there already. If you have a macbook like I do, it’s a bit cringe, but that’s a macbook issue moreso.
I’ll second this experience. Pricing aside (and even then, because of their new recycling policy, I was able to replace an old galaxy nearly the size of a tablet with a new flip-- that has VERY surprisingly become my favorite phone I’ve ever owned-- for like a hundred bucks), I’ve never had complaints about my Samsung phone and wearables that weren’t general to all smartphones. And the easy integrations between my watch, phone, and earbuds, all Samsung, is really great.
the Apple of Android
And here I thought I was being critical of them.
You are right of course, Samsung is very much like Apple. And if you don’t care about a company trying to lock you into their software, inserting themselves in between everything you’re trying to do, and denying you control over your own device, then I’m sure it works just fine.
You are framing the issue to read the way you want it to be read. The customization and software options I am currently using, I have been able to make 90% of it work with a rooted phone and a combination of many open source tools and more. Now I get 100 % without theming breaking randomly, bluetooth being stable, not having to reset the phone every time I update to a new version, and more random issues I had with banking apps and others. I have control over my device stop dooming lmaooo. People use devices that fit their needs.
The customization and software options I am currently using, I have been able to make 90% of it work with a rooted phone and a combination of many open source tools and more.
When I was using Windows I was able to get it to work 90% the way I wanted it to with a combination of open source tools, and help online disabling the bullshit. The point is I shouldn’t have to put that much effort fighting my OS to get it working the way I want it to.
With a Samsung phone maybe I can avoid their bullshit by rooting the phone and finding open source software, but I’d rather just go with a different company and not have the hassle.
stop dooming lmaooo.
“This company has shit business practices, you should use someone else” is not ‘dooming’.
People use devices that fit their needs.
Yes, and I’m pointing out why Samsung might not fit their needs in case they are unaware.
Samsung is a nightmare, don’t purchase their products.
For example: I used to have a Samsung phone. If I plugged it into the USB port on my computer Windows Explorer would not be able to see it to transfer files. My phone would tell me I need to download Samsung’s drivers to transfer files. I could only get them by downloading Samsung’s software. Once I installed the software Windows Explorer was able to see the device and transfer files. Once I uninstalled the software Windows Explorer couldn’t see the device again.
Anything Samsung can do in your region to insert themselves between you and what you are trying to do they will do.
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This is a great summary I’m going to make use of
What’s a good brand then?
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The software bloat is not dissimilar to what I’ve heard in the past, but I’d forgotten since I haven’t gone in depth researching yet. Which phones do we prefer today? Loosely off the top of my head, less bloat/intrusiveness, nice camera, battery life enough for a day, and maybe on the smaller size to fit one hand are probably what I’ll be looking in to.
Apparently Pixel is the easiest to install an alternative OS on, going to start looking into that soon.
I’ve heard good things about Graphene OS, but also deviating from the “stock” experience might make it more difficult to do certain things… like biometrics for banking or something? Not sure myself. Will look into it too, good idea.
I’ve got a Ulefone, I’m quite fond of it.
Ooo I haven’t heard of Ulefone before, I see some of their phones have a built in thermal camera? That sounds cool. How’s the Android/software experience? I’m not familiar with the Chinese phone lines, do they have their own bloat like Samsung?
No bloatware, although mine has a “feature” called Duraspeed I need to uninstall that restricts background applications, including fitness tracking ones I actually want running, and notifies me multiple times per day about this.
Them and Doogee I really like, especially since the phones don’t need to be in a case.
Did it help with battery life? My S24U has not been getting the greatest battery life lately and I wonder if this is why.
I don’t know about the AI stuff specifically. Check your battery usage to see which process is doing that. but yes debloating in general makes your phone battery longer, and with the help of few more tricks also faster. There are thousands of no-root-required debloating tutorials online.
Care to share how you disabled every bit of AI in the phone?
Yee. No root required, neither recommended for samsung devices. In short just enable developer mode from phone settings, then debug it with adb platform to uninstall and disable any system app, and can also change lines, colors, phone behaviors, properties and look, install and uninstall apps which you could not before…and so many things.
Do you have to do this every time you update your phone?
No off course. Once and all the OS and security and all updates all work fine
They just don’t get it. Once everyone will use AI toilet and AI toothbrush they will sing a different tune.
I love skibidAI toilet
For some reason I imagine a toilet that automates a stool test and blood test and gives you a health report every month.
A stool test sure, but I’m not going to trust a toilet to use a sterile needle to draw blood.
If the toilet is receiving a blood sample I have bad news for your monthly health report.
I definitely need a toilet that remember and analyze my shit. Yes.
They will try to sell it to you as a way to detect any possible health issues early. But it will just be used to analyze you food patterns to shove mcdonalds ads
too bad I already eat mcdonalds all days
Not sure what happened to it, but this was a thing already in 2005.
I think there is potential for using AI as a knowledge base. If it saves me hours of having to scour the internet for answers on how to do certain things, I could see a lot of value in that.
The problem is that generative AI can’t determine fact from fiction, even though it has enough information to do so. For instance, I’ll ask Chat GPT how to do something and it will very confidently spit out a wrong answer 9/10 times. If I tell it that that approach didn’t work, it will respond with “Sorry about that. You can’t do [x] with [y] because [z] reasons.” The reasons are often correct but ChatGPT isn’t “intelligent” enough to ascertain that an approach will fail based on data that it already has before suggesting it.
It will then proceed to suggest a variation of the same failed approach several more times. Every once in a while it will eventually pivot towards a workable suggestion.
So basically, this generation of AI is just Cliff Clavin from Cheers. Able to to sting together coherent sentences of mostly bullshit.
Cliffy didn’t hallucinate as much.
I keep thinking about how Google has implemented it. It sums up my broader feelings pretty well. They jammed this half-baked “AI” product into the very fucking top of their search results. I can’t not see it there - its huge and takes up most of my phone’s screen after the search, but I always have to scroll down past it because it is wrong, like, pretty often, or misses important details. Even if it sounds right, because I’ve had it be wrong before I have to just check the other links anyway. All it has succeed at doing in practice is make me scroll down further before I get to my results (not unlike their ads, I might add). Like, if that’s “AI” it’s no fucking wonder people avoid it.
And workers…
Is that a real copilot ad?
This is the link I had I believe, but it’s not loading for me now. Either it will work for you, or they pulled it. https://www.instagram.com/microsoft365/p/C7j8ipnxIiI/?img_index=1 (comments were brutal IIRC)
Related article about it: https://futurism.com/microsoft-brags-ai-attend-three-meetings
The post is still there.
I just can’t see anyone contributing anything meaningful to a meeting when they’re split across three different conversations. If that’s the case for this hypothetical employee, she’s part of the problem.
I mean, that’s exactly the advantage of slack over meetings but that doesn’t tickle middle management fancy as much.
I’m never contributing anything meaningful to the meetings I am continuously added to, so it would be nice to have an AI stand in. I could do the goddamn job I originally applied for instead of scrums, special project scrums, and meta scrums.
I just can’t see anyone contributing anything meaningful to a meeting when they’re split across three different conversations. If that’s the case for this hypothetical employee, she’s part of the problem.
I think the whole idea is that the AI handles two of those meetings for her (somehow) But yes, I try to put myself in the mind of someone who is enthused to finally be able to “attend” three meetings at once, and I just can’t. I have a good job that I mostly enjoy, and am usually enthusiastic about my work. No fucking way.
The only people who could want this are the 1% (and wanna-be 1%), and they want it so the rest of us can attend three meetings at once to increase their wealth even faster.
It’s people who brag about how hard they work and how many hours they work when other people say they hate their jobs.
And those people make me laugh. Oh really? You worked 80 hours last week? I “worked” 40, which meant about 4 hours of actual work a day, clocked out at 5 on the dot every day and spent time with my family.
Yep. Give me time and I’ll dig up the link.
She looks so done with it. It is amazing how tone deaf and incapabale of detecting emotions the higher ups must have been to OK that image. Not blaming any one lower to approve this, they are probably all fed up too and were happy to use this.
Plus, it’s way too cold at her vast and empty warehouse hot desk, because she’s wearing at least two sweaters. Please let this lady have a cubicle of her own with a little space heater.
They’d usually use a paid actor for this, so it makes me wonder, did they just force a regular employee to pose for this
Who knew that new technologies that are great for businesses’ bottom lines wouldn’t also be great for consumer satisfaction.
Say it ain’t so.
Every company that has been trying to push their shiny, new AI feature (which definitely isn’t part of a rush to try and capitalize on the prevalence of AI), my instant response is: “Yeah, no, I’m finding a way to turn this shit off.”
My response is even harsher…“Yeah, no, I’m finding a way to never use this company’s services ever again.” Easier said than done, but I don’t even want to associate with places that shove this in my face.
As I mentioned in another post, about the same topic:
Slapping the words “artificial intelligence” onto your product makes you look like those shady used cars salesmen: in the best hypothesis it’s misleading, in the worst it’s actually true but poorly done.
My fridge has AI
