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I don’t see the problem. Type-C ports can replace all those ports. If you want more ports, buy a dock.
And that becomes annoying if you constantly need more devices connected than what the Mac offers, and constantly have bring the dock.
In the past that was a non-issue. I can see why people would be annoyed by changes like that.
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i only have room for 2 thumbs
Who’s got two thumbs and room for them only?
I have one dock at home, one dock at work. The docks stay connected to the peripherals and I just have to plug in one cable into the laptop to connect everything. I much prefere that over having to plug in 3-4 different cables in the past.
I have no horses in this race either as I have the same setup (with a non-Mac laptop).
Just pointing out why Mac owners might be peefed off by the changes, that is all.
Porque no los dos?
And this picture doesn’t show the more recent models with the mag lock power, hdmi, and sd card reader.
Type c ports are the best. I connect my monitor through one and it has a type ports on it for a wired keyboard and speakers.
I can just plug my laptop into a monitor via USB-C, and with that one cable I have:
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the display/audio signal going to the monitor
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USB passthrough to the monitor that has my wireless KB+M dongle plugged into it
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65W charging for my laptop
It’s great.
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I have one of the more recent models. When I sit down at my desk, I just plug it into a Thunderbolt dock anyway, through a single port. All those extra ports just sit unused, despite having a USB-A keyboard and mouse, Ethernet jack, and 4k monitor at that desk. Plus the dongle provides power to the laptop.
I do use the SD reader from time to time, though. I used to have an external reader that was a bit unwieldy on the laptop, but it was also a requirement from when I was shooting pictures on a CompactFlash, which has never had a built in reader on any laptop.
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It is a straight downgrade. The day you forgot to bring the dongle you are stranded.
The new (not that new anymore) macbook PROs do have separate DC input, HDMI, SD card slot and HDMI. And to be honest, for an average computer user those ports are pretty useless, however if you do need them it comes at a rather steep premium.
Do the bottom two have the same charging port? Impossible!
Also, my first time seeing the newer FireWire and whatever the video output is…
Yes, they should totally bring back the firewire port!
well… the new one has gained some ports back, also usb c is absolutely OP (if you have the money for the Accessories lel)
It’s your fault if you buy it
Oh no! They took out ports the vast majority of users would never use in their entire life, making production cheaper and also making room for new technology to develop and evolve, while enabling whoever needs a specific port to simply buy a fucking dongle and get the job done. Oh and this also made it possible for the entire machine to be lighter and thinner, more thermally efficient and have infinitely better battery life.
The horror 🙄
Yeah which ports are folks actually missing here? Looking at various ports.
Magsafe: This has returned on the new machines. I like it for the green / orange charge indicator. RJ-45: Ok I kinda of get it, but it’s such a tall port. Personally I’d prefer a thinner laptop in this instance. Mini DVI: long dead. Replaced with HDMI. The MacBook pro’s have HDMI FireWire: long dead USB A: Replaced with USB-C. Ok one A port here would still be useful. Headphone / Mic: Still there, just as a combo port on the other side. SD card reader: The MacBook Pros have this. Mini Display port: Long dead. Replaced with DP over USB C
In short if you want HDMI and SD card reader and are anti dongle you get a MBP which has both.
Either way now have ports that can push insane bandwidth and route USB, PCI, HDMI and DP over the same cable which is incredibly versatile.
Mini DVI: long dead. Replaced with HDMI. The MacBook pro’s have HDMI
HDMI has always been inferior to DisplayPort, for computer displays. I’d personally consider DP to be the natural successor to DVI.
infinitely better battery life
All my laptops have a battery as shitty as ten years ago.
Then get a Mac.
Eh, I’m talking about real computers, not devices that cosplay as one.
How cutting.
Yeah, but at least they permit you to use the right mouse button.
I never use the ports on my laptop. It never bothered me that they removed them all. Granted I know that’s just my use case I can t speak for everyone.
All the other brands went along
(My 2020 G14 has 3 A ports and ethernet, but still…)
USB-C does a lot of heavy lifting. Also, MagSafe™ is still there. A little surprised there is also a SD card slot. And a HDMI port. Not complaining about their inclusion, and I do use them regularly, but why did the dongle company give these to us?
I’m okay with USB-C and a headphone jack on my laptop. The other shit is for the birds.
Even Lenovo is doing it with Thinkpads, the t14 gen 6 has soldiered ram and only two USB A ports
Lenovo is only a shadow of its former self. Get used to it; everything gets sacrified for the god Mammon and the sake of slimness.
Even the latest P series:
https://laptopmedia.com/au/guides/how-to-open-lenovo-thinkpad-p14s-gen-4-disassembly-and-upgrade-options/You can only add/swap a M.2 SSD, and WWAN modem.
Even worse, build quality and durability is significantly worse due to Lenovo making the T and P series Thinkpads thinner and lighter.
They’ve added upgradable RAM with the Gen 5 models. The WIFI card is soldered, though, which isn’t as bad but still meh for longevity IMO
It looks like you’re just a dumb follower.
Nobody took anything FROM you. You’re just a blind consumer, fool.
Careful not to cut yourself on that edge
I’m good with it to be honest. One port that can do it all. Not proprietary.
The longer we keep including legacy ports the longer they’ll stick around on peripheral devices
Manufactures won’t change until forced. The transition period might be a bit painful, but worth it.
USB-C is fairly open, and USB4 can do most things Thunderbolt 3/4 can do, but there are exceptions like daisy-chaining. Thunderbolt 5 is also out now, and it has no open counterpart. And Thunderbolt is very much proprietary, requiring licensing and certification from Intel.
But I already have peripheral devices with older connectors. This just forces me to buy dongles.
Also, USB-C can only “do it all” on paper. In practice you have multiple sockets on any given device that support different subsets of the standard. If you’re lucky, the capabilities are printed right on the device or in the manual. If you’re unlucky you’ll have to figure it out yourself.
But I already have peripheral devices with older connectors. This just forces me to buy dongles.
I already have a computer with USB-C - legacy connectors on peripherals force me to buy dongles.
Also, USB-C can only “do it all” on paper. In practice you have multiple sockets on any given device that support different subsets of the standard.
It’s definitely not as good as it should’ve been, but as long as PC manufactures include as many standards as possible it should play well with whatever standard the peripherals are using.
I already have a computer with USB-C - legacy connectors on peripherals force me to buy dongles.
That’s why I want my computer to have both.
It’s definitely not as good as it should’ve been, but as long as PC manufactures include as many standards as possible it should play well with whatever standard the peripherals are using.
Until it doesn’t.
You’re usually safe with Apple’s Type-C port supporting a lot.
Didn’t they have issues with previous MBPs where they’d charge slower on one side than on the other without apple acknowledging it?
But that aside Apple is pretty good ad supporting mostly everything. Other manufacturers are way worse in that regard.
The big issue in my eyes is that they cut down on ports period. Yeah sure you can do it all. Here’s 2 ports for your trouble. There’s not a meaningful amount of them after. My current personal laptop has 2 USB a, one type c, HDMI and microsd. My work laptop is the same, but flipped usba and c. That’s fine for a lot of people, including myself. But then you look at other machines like the xps 13 Plus which has like 2. Or a MacBook air. Which also has 2 but at least you get a headphone jack.
For sure, 3 on one side and 2 on the other minimum.
When a port is extremely high bandwidth, the number of them stops mattering much. I’m plugging everything into a dock via a single cable anyways, the rest go largely unused. We used to need a dozen ports because each one could only handle a single task and all were relatively low bandwidth.
Almost everything I have has a USB A or a DE-9 plug. I don’t have a single peripheral that plugs into a USB C port. I don’t want to deal with dongles and I’m certainly not going to replace my perfectly good hardware.
Eh, it’s been a standard for nearly a decade now. We’d still be on DVI with this attitude.
You don’t have to replace anything, but you will have to buy a cheap USB-C -> USB-A dongle
