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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/33458015
If I am required to do this, I am purging my Discord account immediately. I am not giving them face scans.
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Welp. As soon as this gets put in place I’m out
Guys, calm down, it doesn’t use YOUR face at all. Just a photo. Easy to bypass, and think of the fun we can have.
If that’s the computing you want to do then power to ya. I’d rather the software running on my machine do what I want, rather than work around it doing what someone else wants.
I was being tongue and cheek. Age verification is stupid.
Facial Recognition systems have liveness features that make it impossible to just show it a photo.
Maybe a puppet then. Fun battle of tech.
Do you guys think that maybe we could fool the AI with AI?
I’d like to try to verify an account using a This Person Does Not Exist generated image, but I don’t use Discord at all
Typically they test videos, not images. So your AI would have to at least animate it.
You can, a shitty deepfake will trick most verification systems, I’ve tested it in banks before
A smiley face drawn in MS paint could probably manage.
Holy shit this can actually be a blessing because you can fake an ID as well. Just automate the entire process I am now John Doe and so are all of you.
I’ve tried with Facebook, but it never let’s me create an account
This is what it takes for you to finally leave discord? I would guess most people that have managed to stick around discord this long won’t even mind this.
I don’t use the platform, why is Discord so terrible?
Oh, the service itself is decent, up to great depending on your criteria. Pretty much never down, works well enough, etc.
It’s the privacy and bullshit behind the service that’s hated. Well, usually, some people hate the layout, and others hate the fact that it’s the default for so many people that it’s difficult to avoid.
Also don’t forget the walled garden. Some niche topics only have information and support on discord, which isn’t accessible to anyone like the general internet
Yeah, discord is excellent for what it was made: sharing memes and voice chat. But somehow it completely replaced classic discussion boards and it sucks at that.
In addition to other comments, it’s a terrible replacement for forums. Information gets buried quickly, is hard to sort and search through, and conversations get scrambled.
it’s a venture capital-backed startup that has been very eager to exit its growth phase and enter its aggressive monetization phase so it can start making its shareholders some money. They’ve already tried a few things that didn’t work, like trying to turn it into a Steam competitor.
The service to date is mostly fine. If you’re like most people who don’t mind exchanging some privacy and control for access to an app that has a nonzero professional UX design budget, it’s pretty fantastic. But the writing has been on the wall for a long time that enshittification is near on the horizon. It’s not a question of if, but how soon.
It’s the privacy
I stopped using Discord way back when it always spun up my fans and made my phone hot just leaving it open.
What would be the alternative for discord?
Matrix or mumble
Unless i have been using matrix wrong, wouldnt it be more of an alternative to whatsapp than an alternative to discord?
This is significantly worse than anything they’ve done
Ew
I just fought tooth and nail to get my friends from Snapchat to signal, I dread trying to move them from discord to anywhere else
Wow, good on you for achieving that. I had a few friends and family on signal, but after they dropped SMS support they all left, now I have no signal contacts anymore.
after they dropped SMS support they all left
Good luck getting them to switch to something else from now on. Signal didn’t shoot themselves in the foot, they cut their leg off.
I’m still incredibly frustrated they did that. I often heard “I’ll just text you” in reply to “I’m leaving snap”. Having an all-in-one app would’ve made that so much easier.
Exactly! I’m also frustrated Matrix didn’t end up supporting SMS either, because that would be the perfect way to get people to move over.
I’m still quite excited for matrix as well, but it’s nowhere near the polish of Signal ATM and it’s not something I’d want to be tech support for 15-ish people on
See you guys in IRC.
i want to use IRC but nobody ever talks to me in there
I loved irc 20 years ago…i have no clue how to get back into it. How do you even find a cool server in 2024??
They haven’t changed that much. Freenode died and was replaced by libera.chat, but that’s about it. The other big ones are still around.
And TS
ALL ROADS LEAD BACK TO IRC
Yes, they do. :)
Dalnet or EFnet?
Libera and IRCnet.
Is Dalnet even still around? I stopped using IRC way back in the day because they said they were shutting it down and it was really the only server I used.
Yes I think it’s still active.
Matrix is a better discord alternative
What a completely necessary and safe feature
*sets up mumble server
You know, revolt exists. Matrix is good but it isn’t the same experience as discord. Revolt is a pretty good open source copy of discord.
I see people posting that self hosting revolt is challenging but possible. Shit this might replace matrix
I used to run a Revolt server 3 years ago. The sound quality was beyond any other WebRTC service I had tried, but it was still in an early and it was lacking a lot of features. So, I switched to Element and Jitsi.
Matrix’s protocol with revolt’s UI is what we need
And Signal’s SMS feature. I’d love to gradually move my contacts over to something else, and being able to convince one at a time to switch their SMS client would make that so much easier.
Am I the only one who absolutely hates Discord’s UI & UX? It’s obtuse and bloated.
In what way?
Every way. It’s just a confusing mess. It looks like one of those early 2k websites with a gazzilion animated gifs and whatnot. The layout is full of unnecessary padding and channels and other bullshit features. Not even starting on the fact that it always wants me to get my password and do a two factor authentification + captcha on every visit, or that it does not seem to be able to detect my audio devices properly.
I don’t see any animations at all unless someone has posted a gif. Channels are a core feature, as on many similar platforms.
If it’s continually giving you issues with devices and authentication, it’s probably due to a misconfiguration in your browser, e.g. you have it set to clear cookies on exit, or you have device access permission blocked.
It happens with the actual app as well. So no. And other apps have no problems identifying my audio devices. This is simply a common issue with Discord on Linux, among many others that they don’t bother fixing.
I would recommend Signal and maybe Tox (protocol, has several clients).
Signal is a nonprofit. They make it a point not to collect your data. Just the phone number. Military folks seem to like them.
Tox is not a centralized entity at all, anarchists seem to like it. Multiple Tox clients exist and use a common protocol and network. Messaging happens via peer-to-peer, lookups make use of servers. For messaging to occur, both communicating parties have to be online, so don’t expect much convenience.
Oh my God it’s been so many years since I’ve heard of tox I set up a q-tox account years ago, then no one used the platform so I just let it rest. I think I have my identity key is still stored on my developer sync, I forgot that platform existed
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I use signal with my wife and daughter for texting, does it also offer group servers? I keep in touch with most of my business customers through my shop’s discord server.
It does group messaging, it’s not the same as discord, but I’m not sure what all features you need in a group chat room.
Yes, you can also share a server link and use a username therefore not needing to share your phone number, for bigger group chats
There goes accessing Stalker:GAMMA and tons of other game mods.
bye bye!
I don’t see reporting on this from any reputable sources. If this were true, every major blog covering tech and gaming would be all over it. All I can find is random YouTube channels and nobody websites discussing it.
I’m not gonna pay it any attention until there’s reliable evidence they’re actually planning on doing this.
Yikes, we gotta get on improving Element and Matrix as a replacer ASAP. My apologies for shillery, I don’t normally hock FOSS alternatives in the comments but I view this sort of offense by Discord as a militant action level of threat.
Matrix takes Donations LINK
Element offers product packages for developers/hosts LINK
There are also other services aside from Element with similar functionality so check those out too.
EDIT: Also Matrix is on Github LINK
Revolt also exists just btw. I dont use it just thought I’d mention it.
Cinny is a discord like matrix client :)
The feature none of them seem to have is creating a set of rules that users have to read and agree to before seeing the rest of the space, such is the case with Discord Community Channels.
I mean theres a shit ton missing for discord parity. I agree that matrix needs more of these features, just wanted to share a couple things that already exist
