LG and Samsung have both announced their 2025 smart TVs at CES this weekend, and some of them will include access to Microsoft’s Copilot AI assistant. Both TV manufacturers are chasing the artificial intelligence hype train with dedicated AI sections on their smart TVs that include a shortcut to a Copilot web app.
LG is adding an entire AI section to its TVs and rebranding its remote to “AI Remote,” in an effort to sell consumers on the promise of large language models. While it’s not clear exactly how Copilot works on LG’s latest TVs, the company describes access to Copilot as a way to allow users to “efficiently find and organize complex information using contextual cues.”
LG hasn’t demonstrated its Copilot integration just yet, but it has shown off its own AI Chatbot that’s part of its TVs. It appears Copilot will be surfaced when LG TV users want to search for more information on a particular subject.
Samsung also has its own Vision AI brand for its AI-powered TV features this year, which include AI upscaling, Auto HDR Remastering, and Adaptive Sound Pro. There’s also a new AI button on the remote to access AI features like recognizing food on a screen or AI home security features that analyze video feeds from smart cameras.
Microsoft’s Copilot will be part of this Vision AI section. “In collaboration with Microsoft, Samsung announced the new Smart TVs and Smart Monitors featuring Microsoft Copilot,” says Samsung in a press release. “This partnership will enable users to explore a wide range of Copilot services, including personalized content recommendations.”
I asked Samsung for more information or images of Copilot in action, but the company doesn’t have anything more to share right now. I’ve also asked LG and Microsoft for more information about Copilot on TVs and neither company has responded in time for publication. Without any indication of exactly how Copilot works on these TVs, I’m going to chalk this one up as a gimmicky feature that LG, Samsung, and Microsoft clearly aren’t ready to demo yet.
Thank god i only have this old Toshiba TV,And if LG and Samsung made it opt out then am fine with that.
I’ll cry if they go after monitors like they did tvs.
You better get out those tissues. They’re already starting https://www.lg.com/us/smart-monitors
“Please update your credit card and subscription to access premium colors such as red!”
“Oh you want to unlock 4k? That’s the premium tier. QHD for you!”
Miss the days when you could buy a dumb TV and add the tech you wanted.
Every TV model sold by Costco is required to work without an internet connection.
You can still, they do have HDMI ports.
Yes they do and I do add my own tech but my experience with some of these devices has not been great.
I have LG TVs which I connected to the network and have been updated over the years to have really bad UX and are now polluted with ads.
I had an LG sound bar that was great for a while until it completely stopped working. Powers on, all functions seem to work, just no sound. Originally it worked as a Chromecast device too, but they stopped doing updates and Google stopped working with the old API.
My fear is that eventually there will be an update that bricks a device. Now I’ve taken them off the network, but how long before we have TVs that require Internet to even function.
These smart TVs have a lot more hardware and software than they need which means a lot more to break.
They are still paying for the “”“smart”“” part that they don’t want
The smart part of a large TV is cheap. Also why they’re slow af. The price is dominated by the LCD module.
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Every time I asked for a high-quality, non-RGB/backlight, yet affordable keyboard, people never understood that I’d still pay for it.
Quite the opposite, actually. The “smart” part gives you huge discounts because they expect to make it back on the data they collect.
I can see the logic, but is actually cheaper or the “dumb TV” is just overpriced? They still need to add a processor and shitty computer parts to the TV to have the smart thingy
the parts are mostly already there anyway for image processing, perhaps upgraded slightly. I doubt it’s a significant cost.
is actually cheaper or the “dumb TV” is just overpriced?
I don’t know what that means. I don’t know how old you are or where you are getting your perspective from but before TVs were “smart” they cost waaaay more. Back in like 2012 I paid ~$2k for a 50" plasma TV. Still have the receipt.
TV is cheaper now, if you compare it to when the technology for plasma TV, ultra HD and so on first started, production got a lot better and cheaper. What I’m asking is: is the TV part of the “smart TV” cheap and they’re making us pay more for it by adding the smart part, or is the logic that they’re giving a discount because they can make the extra money with the data.
Because it could start with paying the extra cost with the data, but now it’s the norm and they can charge more for it and still make more money selling data.
or is the logic that they’re giving a discount because they can make the extra money with the data.
Yes that is what I said.
but now it’s the norm and they can charge more for it and still make more money selling data.
They still have to compete with all the other TV manufacturers.
Nothing is stopping them from adding the smart crap to things over HDMI inputs. If it doesn’t have it at launch, I recommend blocking it from getting updates so you don’t get “upgraded” later.
You just have to deal with all the smart garbage every time you turn it on
There’s usually a way to get it to jump to the last input.
This news is reminding me that I need to unplug my TV from the Internet.
This scares me if I have to buy a new one, because I’d completely forgotten my TV has smart functions, I haven’t seen a trace of it for years with a Pi hooked up on the HDMI. It just starts up to the last input it was on. Heck, I turn it on with Home Assistant Voice automation that sends a CEC command to it over that HDMI. I haven’t even used the remote in months.
Yeah mine takes forever to boot.
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I’ve wanted to root my LG, but I’m not sure how. The last thing I found for that when looking involved using the JavaScript on a website I think. Seemed sketchy.
My LG is totally offline. I use a Nvidia shield, where I have more control what’s on it. My router has handles the rest by running VPN + blocking dns.
This is similar enough to what I do, but I also just wish I could take control of the little computer in my TV. WebOS is open source, so it seems only natural.
Hmm, I can’t find “Friends” episodes for free Frank, but I’ve reviewed all your music and most of it is illegally downloaded. I’ve alerted the RIAA for proper auction against you. Oh by the way, I know about Monica but haven’t yet told your wife about it. We’ll let this one pass but the notes about chemicals and your obsession for MAGA hats, that peaked the interest of a few folks who asked for access to your camera and microphone. Say cheese! Hold on, we need more light… Could you open the window, look at it for a sec for the profile. No, its just pixels, the red dots on your face is just hot pixels, don’t worry.
Just imagine how much money Microsoft must be investing in this mass surveillance program they are trying to sneak in under the guise of the AI in charge of its indexing.
This is what happens when rich people and corporations have too much investment money. They get convinced by some technology they think kinda works then dump an ungodly amount of money into it.
Uber is still pushing around investor money over 10 years later and until we start cutting rich people off this stupid AI stuff won’t die like it should.
Buy those if you want to have dead buttons on your remote in two years.
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Does HDMI CEC keep the device always on? How else could it work? It’s wasting energy.
Really? I don’t watch much TV, but we do use the remotes for our Samsung and LG TVs to switch inputs and access streaming services (so more arrow navigation, less numbers, and no channel selector button). Our TVs are all pretty old (Samsung is about 12 years old, LG is 8 years old) and the remotes still work fine, though the LG is getting a bit mushy since it’s the one we use the most.
Is this a recent thing?
Sadly true, but if you’re already stuck with one of these TVs like me, you should know that you can get flawless knockoff remotes online in two packs super cheap.
Had to buy the premium magic remote for my LG in order to have one that I know will keep working long term…
The “magic remote” from LG …
It’s so magic it makes you pay for a new remote with features that should already work on the regular remote.
But I get it. We’re talking groundbreaking features like navigating up/down/left/right, back and even selecting stuff! /s
The solution I found for my parents’ aging LG TV begging for a “magic remote” was adding an AndroidTV box with its own remote and an updated OS with an actual selection of working, relevant apps (as opposed to the native OS of the TV), for a cheaper price than a “magic remote” IIRC. Finally, replacing the default launcher of the AndroidTV box with the minimalist FLauncher made the replacement a somewhat less crappy experience than it initially was.
Too bad, mine doesn’t get any internet.
I need a new TV, and it turns out, LG and Samsung TVs happen to not be compatible with my house.
I should have bought a new tv like 5 years ago.
Can confirm, I bought my LG OLED 65" in 2019 and… it’s a little slow (sluggish UI) but the display is still amazing. Great sound, too.
And that sluggish UI is intentional to make it feel old. There is no way that their basic ass gui is taxing the system.
I have a 65G1 and I love it but having it locked down sucks and I wont be getting another LG if there anything close to theie featureset available.
Probably intentional, yeah. 😔
You got any other brands of TV you could recommend?
Sony are cunts but they were a close second to LG, so if they have upped their game at a similar price point I’ll be interested. Panasonic is always strong too.
Cool, thanks for the tips!
Former smart TV app developer. I’m going to drive my old dumb lcd TV into the ground before I’m forced to use a “smart” TV.
I prefer casting, but for convenience for my wife, we have a fire tv stick.
I want my panels rendering, not thinking / reporting.
I’ll never buy from them again. #fuckai
Copilot can fuck off
Adding AI to your TV? Stupid.
Adding Copilot AI to your TV? Turbostupid.
To this day I don’t understand how Microsoft paid OpenAI $Texas to license their tech and used it to make… ChatGPT, only worse.
Given my recent experiences with Microsoft stuff at work, I assume their strategy is to get Copilot to be the de facto standard and the only “IT Approved” option in all the M365-using workplaces.
You’re right on the money with this one.
I’m toying with the idea of just getting an LCD projector - I don’t care about seeing every pore on the actor’s faces, 1024x768 is fine.
I bought a very expensive one a few years ago thinking the same thing, but don’t use it because you get nothing close to the vividness of a regular screen. And I’m not a videophile, I’ll happily watch most of my shows at 720p, but the color and depth are just really bad on a projection screen, even with the lights out. I end up just using an old 1080 LCD I fixed the backlights on when I got it for free.
Plus the fan noise is fucking annoying.
Did you project onto a wall or a projection screen?
I used a special reflective paint for projectors on a wall.
🫣why not 1080p? With 1024, you have no integer scale, and every movie looks like shit… At least go for 1080 or 720, but not this strange resolution where literally no content fits
Ahh, it is 4:3, I see, we have a older person here, it seems 🤭
Source: https://alltechmagazine.com/about/1024-x-768-the-classic-screen-resolution/
Damn, really showing my age here 😳
Ya, we coded on CRTs with 1024x768.
The utmost luxury was to have 1280x1024 IIRC.
Time really is a flat circle huh?
This all just sounds like the Alexa/Google Assistant integration some brands were advertising for their TVs previously, just ends up as the obnoxious button you bump into and desperately try to back out while the aging TV huffs and puffs struggling to load the flashy UILG and Samsung TVs were already on my “do-not-buy” list with their ad ridden UIs, sounds like they’re just getting worse. Only a matter of time before they require you to connect them to the Internet to use them
it’s not an issue if you use your own peripherals. I never use my LG’s WebOS and never see any ads.
Know anyone else that does a good picture quality 65” OLED?
Just buy an LG and use an external media device. LG TVs work perfectly fine with no network connection and you can set them to power on and go straight to the last used HDMI input.
I never see the built-in OS on my LG OLED.
Sony. I got last year’s open box for close to 1k. It runs Android so I have a ad free launcher called Projectivy and can sideload apps as well.
I went Sony recently too because of how garbage LG and Samsung have been getting. Only problem is Sony decided to rebrand fucking HDMI-CEC as “BRAVIA Sync” and make it not work. Other than that, the panel is gorgeous and it’s not even an OLED.
