• @apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world
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    3303 months ago

    Major props to those causing a ruckous internally there. That said, they likely fully expected a backlash and likely didn’t care. Anyone who cares can be replaced by another sycophant, at a reduced salary even.

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        They don’t need the very best to make profit for a very long time, especially in a friendly regulatory regime. Check IBM for reference.

        They own the social media market and have enough capital to acquire any plausible competitor, as have done in the past.

        Losing top talent is only a significant price to pay if the firm or its competitors are still building new stuff that affects their bottom line. Meta is happy raking in the social media-ad profits. Google is happy raking in the search-ad profits. They’re all busy getting more money out of the markets they’ve monopolized, not competing.

      • azron
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        653 months ago

        They pay well enough to get anyone who doesn’t care about principles. Plenty people in tech like that.

      • aramis87
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        Nah, with Trump in office, he’ll be delighted to hire in H1B slave labor …

  • @Boozilla@sh.itjust.works
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    383 months ago

    I refuse to use Meta, and I block their various URLs in my home. Friends and family complain and give me grief about it. It’s astonishing how much of a creep Zuck is, and yet he’s got his hooks in deep, and some people are still addicted to his garbage.

  • @N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    103 months ago

    If you have a problem with it, organize a Facebook union. The only way small voices matter to CEOs are when they speak collectively.

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      if they weren’t already organizing, I bet they are now. CWA has been receiving so many high quality leads for the last 2 years that they literally do not have enough dues-paying members to fund all of those campaigns. They’re one of the largest unions in the US already.

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          I was curious since I’d never considered that, I became a member the old fashioned way. It doesn’t look like you can donate directly, but CWA has a merch store full of reasonably priced, union-made clothing that you can buy to support them!

  • merde alors
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    203 months ago

    i think I’ve finally reached peak zuckerberg, i don’t want to read one more thing about facebook or meta or whatever

    • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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      Not just social issues.

      It’s easier if people quit than you firing them.

      So do shit like this so people “protest resign” and fill their positions with H1B’s who can’t resign because they’d be deported and take a fraction of the pay.

      Resigning in protest is never a good idea.

      Stay, obstruct, make them fire you.

  • @droopy4096@lemmy.ca
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    633 months ago

    we can only hope fb implodes sooner rather than later. I personally know multiple people working there who are very decent human beings who need to pay bills. I just hope their current trajectory will force employee action and paralyze fb long enough to hurt. Unlike other places it’s not so simple to just hire a load of IT professionals and have any meaningful results short term, esp. if they have not been ramped up to speed by their colleagues. So it’s not impossible, bowever tolerance threshold is kind of high for any action to take place. Wads of cash, unpaid mortgages and all. Employees of big tech are truly living in gold cages…

    • @endeavor@sopuli.xyz
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      113 months ago

      With meta on your resume you can easily find employment or freelance. Tech people have widely applicable and desired skills. Hell they could even move to a non 3rd world country and be better off.

      • @sudoer777@lemmy.ml
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        With meta on your resume you can easily find employment or freelance

        And end up working for a company that’s just as shitty but worse pay, or finding less shit companies that don’t have the financial resources to employ more people

      • @jol@discuss.tchncs.de
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        Yes but at Facebook they make more money, and money speaks louder than morals 🤡 I’m not sorry for the people working at Facebook. They are part of the problem. Facebook didn’t just suddenly become evil yesterday.

        • @endeavor@sopuli.xyz
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          I recently quit facebook due to rampant russian propaganda, unmoderated communities full of far left or far right (same thing really) bots and constant, rampant scams and ai posts. It’s not that platform has it, any platform with 5 digit userbase has them. It is that FB has used it consistently across all their platforms to drive “”“”“engagement”“”".

          • @inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            unmoderated communities full of far left or far right (same thing really)

            No, they are not the same thing at all 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

              • @inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                33 months ago

                The left: we want fair wages, working conditions and healthcare

                The right: we want to enslave minorities and murder lgbtq people

                This moron: they’re the same!!!

                • @zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
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                  “Fair wages, working conditions, and healthcare” isn’t the left. Those positions are centrist. The far left wants to do stuff like abolish the government. I’d still pick them over the far right, but abolishing the government is a pretty fuckin’ bad idea.

      • @PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk
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        63 months ago

        As someone in the tech industry i can say that now is a pretty terrible time to lose your job.

        The market was booming during covid but is very dry right now. Many companies have had lots of layoff and the market is saturated with candidates

  • @Ithorian@lemmy.world
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    Ok there i go for the downvotes… Where are woke people there is always confusion about everything, if you dont think or do things like they do they start scream and protest all the time. Thats why they are getting behind, the majority of people (the silent ones) are tired of the constant whining

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      Why do I hear so much bitching about wokeness from the silent ones? If they want to call themselves the silent ones they should shut the fuck up. I might be interested if they had anything to say beyond the vague ‘we’re getting behind’ and ‘everything is confusing’ which gives old-man-yells-at-cloud energy.

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      “Do things the way they do” like accept people’s right to exist and be themselves. You’re the ones enforcing things on people, your revulsion at seeing a black person isn’t equal to that person’s suffering under a racist system.

      You entitled piece of shit.

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        No, but if you work in a place and dont like the way the company is going, for personal or profissional reasons, just resign and go for another job, stop wasting everyone time and patient

        • @TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works
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          103 months ago

          if a company was allowing people to say they want YOU dead, you’d be pretty upset as well.
          Just running away from discrimination and oppression doesn’t help. I value the well-being of humans WAY before I value your “time and patient”

          • @Ithorian@lemmy.world
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            “value the well-being of humans” that is a subjective thing thats why there is this kind of conflits, just because you think you are defending the world with no cape that doesnt mean you are right and the contraditory is not true as well. What i mean is that they have different views and there are not a good or bad view, they are different, so no you cannot say that you are right and the other is wrong. Just move on

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      Ok there i go for the downvotes… Where there are people with which I disagree there is always confusion about everything, if you dont think or do things like they do they start scream and protest all the time. Thats why they are getting behind, the majority of people (the silent ones; like us) are tired of the constant whining

      … We are above the fray. It is the they’s and them’s causing all the problem and doing all the complaining. This post isn’t the exact whining I’m talking about I promise. We us’s are just doing the lord’s work and never complaining.

    • @c0c0c0@lemmy.world
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      What does “woke” mean, when you say it? It used to refer to awareness of the existence of institutional racism. Does “anti-woke” refer to a lack of awareness, or a lack of concern? Would you argue that that would be a good thing?

    • @PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee
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      The word woke has been misused for so many years now its effectively meaningless other than meaning “dumb leftist”

      Fuck we are a stupid species…

  • Diplomjodler
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    203 months ago

    Meta employees suddenly discovering their conscience is a bit rich.

    • @floofloof@lemmy.ca
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      Still, it’s good to see there are people there who won’t just go along with anything.

  • niva
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    103 months ago

    This puzzles me. Why do these Meta employees care for LGBTQ people? How can anyone work for Meta and have a conscience?

    • @Snowclone@lemmy.world
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      Dude I’ve never had a single job that wasn’t for an entity I didn’t find morally reprehensible. I don’t think most people will ever have a choice in this matter. You have to work to eat.

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        There is more often than not a choice. Take what job you can get, but that doesn’t mean you need stop looking.

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    Now we’re doing headlines like this with tech companies in addition to politicians? These fuckers act with impunity because they can.

    For some reason, it appears the unbreakable barrier for humanity is switching the fucking social media site you go to.

    What would it take for people to consider not looking at Instagram and Facebook? A feed full of snuff videos?

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      the unbreakable barrier for humanity is switching the fucking social media site you go to.

      Facebook is quickly becoming a retirement community, exclusively for me-maws and pepes. It hasn’t been the tool for college kids to organize keggers in nearly a decade.

      But when alternatives to Facebook crop up - your Instagrams and TikToks and Discords and WhatsApps and Grindrs - they don’t last long before being gobbled up by the bigger social media giants or shut down by hostile state regulators.

      In the end, everything returns to Facebook, because the big companies can borrow money for free and staple on whatever small firm is seeing a lot of early growth. I give BlueSky another three years, tops, before one of the big social media giants acquires it.

      • @SolaceFiend@lemmy.world
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        Instagram and TikTok are already big social media giants in their own right.

        If TikTok gets gobbled up, it’ll be because of the legal proceedings going on in which lawmakers are trying to force TikTok to allow itself to be bought up by some US company. Which is another issue altogether, cause if I start a business, the legality of the US government forcing me to sell my business to someone else, or even to be forced to sell my business to a foreign government or company and not be allowed to possess it, is a whole can of worms.

        But outside of WhatsApp being shut down due to security reasons, the majority of those wouldn’t qualify as social media sites that would be gobbled up by some other social media giant.

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          Instagram is, uh, Meta? It was gobbled up just as it was taking off.

          Tiktok couldn’t be gobbled, and is being beat down by legislators until they sell to US tech firms.

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        I agree, but we should at least have them fork over the cash to buy a new dumpster to enshittify every few years. There’s Twitter that people still cling to despite it being a superfund site since at least when Leon bought it.

        Make Facebook the next MySpace, make Reddit the next Digg. Make social media sites starve to death from lack of engagement again.

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      I wish, they got rid of all the snuff sites long ago

  • BlackLaZoR
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    announced content moderation changes that will allow users to say that LGBTQ+ people have “mental illness,”

    Someone gets triggered by free speech here.

    Anyway, wind blows the other way now. Zuck doesn’t want to piss against it

  • OneMeaningManyNames
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    Meta’s anti-LGBT rules are closely knit to their ending the fact-checking: It is science denialism and linked to racism and vaccine skepticism.

    Homosexuality and gender identity are not considered mental illnesses, Sex is not a binary, and Race is not connected to intelligence.

    Bigots never liked science on these three, and now they use political power to impose their narrative.

    Meta never moderated such discourse. Nor reddit nor twitter nor youtube. There was no censorship to end here. What this is, it is a free pass to punch down trans and gay people. It is incitement to violence, and Zuckerberg and Musk must go to the gallows for it.

    Don’t get me started on the toxic harassment these platforms have allowed against African and Carribean reparation activists, how they have destroyed the lives of feminists, and how they have named all Palestinians terrorists.

    At this point race realists and gender essentialists have ensured political and technological control of the narrative.

    There is no room for debating sealioning trolls on this one. If they don’t understand the social dynamics against gender/sex/minorities at this moment, they are no better than brownshirts.

    It is permabans and hooks and jabs all the way, for every single weird freak that backs this deranged hateful shit.

  • katy ✨
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    feel free to be heroes and leak meta’s source code before leaving.