Problem with Gemini is that is sucks badly in comparison with more mature solutions.
It really is terrible. I’ve tried a dozen times to get it to do anything that the free version of GPT can do…fails every time on the few things it even tries.
Apple Intelligence too. Thankfully you can still disable it
disable it
Un install, delete, remove 👀
next bullet slogan?
Imagine the next one’s gonna be named Mario lmao.
That’s my biggest gripe with Gemini; it’s not a proper replacement for Google Assistant and yet it’s still treated as such.
Feels like Google took at least two steps back when it comes to Gemini on Pixel devices…
They just slapped an LLM which tried to replace Google Assistant where the said LLM could not even do the most basic functions like setting up an alarm.
This is probably the most ‘old man yells at cloud’ thing about me but I hate voice assistants and they have yet to work consistently enough to be worth my time.
It is completely insane to me that something simple like “Add ____ to the grocery list” has worked and stopped working multiple times for years now. How hard is that to get right? Cannot believe such a simple action is so inconsistent.
My Google smart speaker used to integrate with my shopping list app. The loss of that integration and other features makes it basically a glorified white noise machine now.
I think a lot of that has to do with that Google used to be a company with engineers wanting to make the best software.
Now it’s an ad agency that happens to have some software to make money, and they don’t care about the software anymore. Money is not only bottom line, it’s all the lines. You see the results in the quality of their software, it’s all gone down hill.
Nah dude you’re right. I have mine disabled and nuked as best as possible on my phone. I have no nest. No Google assistance puck. No Alexa. My home is not a smart home. There is a gun and a bottle of wild turkey next to my printer, and sometimes I make threats to it to ensure all my machines stay in line.
There is a gun and a bottle of wild turkey next to my printer
I wouldn’t leave a gun in the printer’s reach. The fucking thing will murder you in your sleep. Those things are the work of the devil and every day they continue to exist is a day too long.
Or I ask to go to Costco, and where Assistant previously would route me to the nearest one, Gemini sends me to one 80 miles away
I love the dedicated piracy folder lmao
I’m being serious with this comment. In no way have I felt like Google has forced Gemini on me. I barely notice it exists. Can anyone give me examples?
My power button on my phone now opens Gemini… Every damn time it’s bumped. Press to wake the phone? Oh hello Gemini
Well that is annoying, but doesn’t sound like the expected behaviour of the power button. A long press, maybe, but just pressing it shouldn’t do that.
for months, every time i used google assistant to set a timer, and every few days without asking, i got push messages to use gemini instead of assistant on my phone. there is no way to disable those messages - they only go away if you have at least once activated gemini. btw, assistant functions like the timer DO NOT WORK if you use gemini; it’s really great service to push your costumers to install a feature to take away a feature that is used daily.
I actually did activate it to test that now, because I thought there is no way they’d leave that out… And it works! It set me a timer.
But yeah, that’s annoying. Very.
Well, my system language is not English, which might be a contributing factor. I assumed it would be the same in English, TIL.
That’d probably be it. Mine’s UK English.
They “remind me” every time I use assistant on my phone with an on screen message. But that’s about it and though I find it annoying I don’t feel forced.
@atrielienz @ObviouslyNotBanana If you use their Search and don’t want all the AI results forced to top of results you can try using UDM14 https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/05/google-searchs-udm14-trick-lets-you-kill-ai-search-for-good/
Yeah I have udm14.com set as a custom search engine. So I don’t use it for search. It’s usually for things like triggering a camera or timer or similar for stuff at work where I might need to use a tripod, or for routines at home (smart lighting and blinds and the TV for my kid). I’ve been looking into swapping to home assistant but something’s I haven’t found solutions for yet.
They remind me even when I don’t use assistant. I sometimes wake my phone and it’s the first screen I saw. I tried switching over and it sucks. Sometimes I say a voice command for something regarding google home (eg. Turn off the lights). Sometimes it correctly realized this is mean for Google home and will execute the command with Google home. Sometimes I get an error saying Gemini can’t do that yet. This is with the same exact prompt. It’s not idempotent.
I opted out when they first introduced it. So it’s not in use on my phone and never has been. My smart home devices are all older so nothing with Gemini built in. This may be the difference for me. I dunno.
The main smart speaker I use is a Lenovo Smart Display and it hasn’t received updates in years. It’s got physical switches for the mic and camera and my smart home stuff is on a separate network from everything else in my house on purpose.
I think the newest speaker I own is the set of Google home max’s and they don’t even sell those anymore. They’ve been disabled for mic so they’re only for casting to.
This works for me but my home is small and all I’ve really got is some Philips hue lights and a couple of smart blinds. I set up routines early on so I’m not really asking the assistant to do a lot of things using voice controls.
On my phone at work I use it when my hands are occupied, and I use it I’m the car (but my car isn’t equipped for Android Auto etc). So I think for me it’s probably just limited in what it can interact with to the point I don’t notice it much.
Gemini ‘messaged’ me in google messages introducing itself a couple months ago. Just appeared like a normal text conversation with any other contact, but as soon as you click on it you’re presented with a wall of T&Cs.
Deleted the ‘conversation’ and it’s stayed gone; though there’s an option for it in settings.
The only other place I’ve see it is an on-screen reminder every time I use Google Assistant. (usually just triggering home automatons)
That’s why.
I don’t use Google messages, don’t use the Google Assistant… am barely aware that Gemini exists.
Same here.
Same here tbh. I havea university google suite account and I’ve never noticed it there. I also use Google messages, and there was a button for it by default, but it was easily disabled.
They’ve stuffed it into every page in Google cloud and workspace.
I tried it in sheets one time and it literally made up fake data for my analysis. Never trusting that again.
It “messaged” me in Google Messages today introducing itself and how it could summarize text messages on my phone for me
if a human sends me a text long enough to benefit from a summary that’s a human that is being removed from my contacts.
I accidentally clicked on their stupid popup one time and then got emails over and over welcoming me to Gemini. I don’t even have Google assistant installed.
Ah, I don’t use most of Google’s services, though I do use an Android device. I think my most used service is Drive. I haven’t seen it on there.
My job uses the Google suite and it feels like it’s gotten a bit excessive recently. Just this week I have gotten multiple popups on my work email and in Docs and Sheets. It has been present in Chat for a few months.
Interesting. I don’t use Gmail (unless I have to) or the Google office suite. Makes sense.
Where are they putting it, chrome? Just use Firefox instead.
It is also on android phones and can’t be uninstalled or disabled.
I use gmail at work and I see the logo in chats, email, drive, docs, and I’m not sure where else. Its annoying when I’m typing an email and it tries to get me to use it. I don’t know how to get rid of it either.
The article in this post tells the only way to get rid of it. If you use it for corporate, your IT people have to call and ask Google support to add the setting for you to be able to turn it off.
My employer is switching from Microsoft to Google for office tools next month and they’ve been championing its availability to all of us. I’m not looking forward to it…
Use a hardened Firefox, use a different search engine
My power button on my phone now opens Gemini… Every damn time it’s bumped. Press to wake? Oh hello Gemini
Install LineageOS or e/os/ on your phone and bye bye Gemini 🙂
I have a Samsung A series, would it work on my phone too?
Which one? You can check officially supported here: https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/#samsung But it is possible that yours is unofficially supported. In this case you have to read xda forums.
It looks like I need a pc and use terminal. Shit. Though it was a bit more streamlined.
Unfortunately, yes, but that’s not hard. Some Samsung phones have installer for e/os/ (full degooglised).
I don’t even have chrome installed. I use Firefox and Duckduckgo. It in android phones and gsuite products that people have to use for work.You have to go to extreme lengths to uninstall on desktop as outlined in the article, and cannot uninstall or opt out of on android.
Is it bad that I stopped using Google docs and plan on moving to OpenOffice instead?
I’d recommend libreoffice, because oracle also kinda sucks.
Kinda?
I view Oracle as worse than Google.
Worse but less powerful
Why would that be bad?
Try OnlyOffice instead
Open office. Or libre office. Also. Don’t give Google your data like that bro
I <3 libreoffice
I’m slowly moving away from Gmail and Google Docs/Drive, but in the meantime entering this into uBlock Origin seems to help:
mail.google.com##div[jscontroller][jsaction]:has(> span > button[aria-label="Try Gemini"])drive.google.com##div[jscontroller][jsaction]:has(> span > button[aria-label="Try Gemini"])docs.google.com##div[jscontroller][jsaction]:has(> span > button[aria-label="Try Gemini"])AAAAAria to save the day!
there is nothing forcing you to keep using google though
For now
We don’t “get” tech anymore. Tech happens to/at us. We are already getting AI generated ads. Where are the AI based ad blockers?
Already happened. It died because it turns out the AI was funneling all of your browsing data to the servers running the AI instead
GPT-AdBlocker for Chrome promises to block all ads, including ads in videos - gHacks Tech News - https://www.ghacks.net/2023/07/19/gpt-adblocker-for-chrome-promises-to-block-all-ads-including-ads-in-videos/
They’d be useless. Unless you trained it yourself there would 100% be a whitelist you couldn’t see, or it’d be gobbling up all your data.
I just tried it for the first time. I like how it tried to educate me
I didn’t like the verbosity overall
It felt dumb that using it via android studio it didn’t have any capacity. It didn’t know I was building for android. It couldn’t implement any of its own suggestions and a lot of the suggestions were incomplete.
After asking chatgpt, Gemini and deepseek I still can’t get Godot to build an android export that contains the sqlite shared object accessible to the code.
I’m losing my mind.
Somehow I’ve never come across any of these things in my day to day. I hope I can casually avoid them for a long long time.
That’s how it is. I never even set up Gemini when my phone updated. I never used google assistant either.
All of it is. Or pushing copilot into all Microsoft products like anyone is using this shit.
Every time I’ve opened an Office app this week it has given me some copilot welcome screen and opened it’s own sidebar. I tried to use it to proofread a word doc and got prompted to purchase a license. So they basically just filled 1/3 of my screen with an ad.
I tried to ask it how I could remove it, Gemini told me that in order for me to help it I needed to active some of the “smart” features I didn’t have active on my account, essentially helping do the opposite. It follows the ever increasing practice of trying to shove basically illegal behavior into “it’s just the algorithm, bro, there was no intent!”
Thats nothing, the Play Integrity API is trying to block usage by other operating systems like CalyxOS and Graphene. Imo much more insidious and opaque.
Ewwww
