2 pizzas, a small order of breadsticks, and wanted to splurge and get cinnamon sticks.
Pizzas are a “Buy one get one deal!” at 13 bucks a pizza. Figured what the hell, I’ll splurge on desert then with the deal. Get to checkout… hold on a minute… 50 dollars for pizza?! Wait a minute 80 dollars after fees and taxes?!
Usually I only use Doordash for finding something, then I order direct from the store. I just saw the sweet “buy one get one” deal and thought eh, fine I’m here. Right, that’s why I stopped using door dash. I’m not spending 80 dollars on freaking pizza. I’ll just go pick it up and spend a quarter of that price.
At least I would have saved the $3 dollar delivery fee. Phew. Thanks DoorDash.
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Makes me so grateful I have Starship where I live. No price markups, no tips, only a $3 fee.
Where is whatever government agency is in charge of truth in labeling, not ripping off the consumer …. At the very least they are deliberately hiding some of their fees under “taxes and fees” in the hope that some pole won’t realize how high it is for a tax. Taxes should be itemized so everything else is fees
Assuming that agency still exists. Why are these “free market” types always seem to not want the transparency and fairness that makes a free market work well?
I’m very happy I live in a country where all consumer prices must include taxes. It’s so much better knowing what the real price is when you buy something.
“Freedom” to “free market” types is the freedom to do whatever you want with no consequences regardless of the impact to others.
“Free market” means if you get duped or swindled then “you deserved it”.
“Free market” means if it really causes harm then “people just won’t buy it”.
“Free market” is way more what most people think anarchy is than what anarchists are advocating for.
Anarchy is “if I want to do cocaine and I die, that’s on me, the government shouldn’t be allowed to control what I do with my body”
Free market is “we should be allowed to add a little bit of cocaine to this baby formula so our brand beats out the competition and no one should be allowed to tell us we can’t”
How did the sub total become $53.96?
Breadsticks and cinnamon sticks we $27.96??
Otherwise, did they do hidden fees in the subtotal, on top of the already hidden fees?
Y’all need some better laws in the states.
There is (off the top of my head) only three types of extra charges in Australia for consumers:
- transaction fees (provided the lowest you can possibly pay, even with transaction fees, is advertised. i.e. if you accept card only the minimum fee is included in your advertised price)
- delivery fees (but strictly speaking you ought to advertise “+delivery fees” in your listed price, and only if it’s variable. And finally,
- surcharges based on time. But again, you need to advertise this prominently ahead of payment.
If I were really splitting hairs some restaurants and cafes that do weekend surcharges reeeeally ought to put it on the front cover of their menus, not just at the till.
Anyway, what you have in comparison is maddening.
Taxes? Yeah, that should be in the prices. “Fees”?? Yeah, that’s part of the price, bud.
Absolute yikes.
Me seeing the pic: Oh, doordash just dropped the delivery fee…wait, $50??? What the fuck is he ordering in one meal that I could get a weeks worth of groceries???
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Oh, good. For a second I thought he was an idiot…
I said…2 days before the superbowl…knowing what I’m about to spend…
$50 for a week worth of groceries? Either you are posting from 2003 or the developing world.
You can definitely get a week worth of groceries for that in the UK or Europe. Nothing fancy, only ingredients, but good nutritional food and enough of it.
You can do that here in the US too (for now). But the pre-packaged junk food is really expensive and that’s what people want.
What are you eating that is costing more than $50 a week? You buy a loaf of bread. $3. 3 or 4 packs of lunch meats. Call it $12. Pack of cheese singles. $3. So you’re up to $18. You now have sandwiches for every lunch this week. Now buy 1 pack of chicken, varies between 10 and 12 dollars for 4-5 chicken breasts. Let’s call it $11 for 4. That’s $29. Grab a box of cereal. Call that $3. Up to $32. Grab a pack of porkchops. Usually 4 in a pack for about $10. $42. Grab 2 bottles of pasta sauce, $8. And a pack of spagetti for $3. Now grab a bag of potatoes, call that $6. And a bag of oranges, or a bag of apples. $6. Grand total $65, and I even went overboard. That’s like a week and a half, but I’m also assuming your kitchen is totally empty. Otherwise, you might only need 1 bottle of pasta sauce. You might already have half a bag of fruit left from last week. You might still have half a box of cereal left. I also said a LOT of lunch meat for 1 week.
On top of that, I bought meals for every meal. I don’t eat 3 meals a day. I eat 1. Sometimes 2. Today I’ve had 0, and I am hungry, but it’s also bedtime within an hour. So I’m just going to wait until I wake up.
Real talk, do you eat your cereal with pasta sauce?
I just fist it staight from the box.
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You can get a weeks worth of calories plus a multivitamin for $80
Cooking for yourself and not eating out ever, and my bill from Aldi rarely is above $50, just buy seasoning as you go. I make a week’s worth of food on one day a week, freeze most of it, and then just reheat it in a microwave.
Yup. I’d make a tray of lasagna, in my bachelor days, and it would last me about 4 days. Of course I’d be really tired of lasagna by then lol
Man…I just spent a month cooking chicken, and freezing it. My freezer is FULL of frozen chicken in ziplock baggies. I’d buy 6 packs of chicken, which have 4-5 pieces each. I’d cook 1 pack a night for a week, and on my off day go buy 6 more packs for next week.
Then I’d throw them in the freezer individually in ziplocks.
I work Sunday-Thrusday. So on Friday, I pull 5 chickens down to the fridge to thaw, and that’s ready by sunday. Then every day I just grab 1 chicken to bring to work. Aldis also sell lunch meats, but they have reusable containers. So I bought these condiment cups with sealable lids, fill each of them with BBQ sauce. Put the chicken still frozen in the ziplock into the former lunchmeats tupperware. Then put the bbq sauce up in. Seal the tupperware, and stack them 5 high like that. Then Sunday before work, I just reach in, grab one tub, and throw it in my bag. My bag also has some fruit, and some little snacks inside another lunchmeats tupperware. Just grab 2 tubs. throw them in my bag, and it’s ready for me.
Adulting!
…cries.
All you eat for lunch is chicken? Why not pasta or rice or bread or tortillas? All that chicken could make a ton of frozen burritos or chicken pastas or stir fries to eat with rice!
With 80€, I get around 2 weeks of groceries in Germany for 1 person… Almost free highest quality tap water, no breakfast, bread with something on it for lunch, something for dinner that results in leftovers for 1-2 days…
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Only if your eat like a monk. That’s 5.71€ per day
Well… I’m not feeling like I’m missing anything… My meat consumption is pretty low by the way…
1 kg Spaghetti = 2 € reduced price
1.5 kg Tomatoe puree = 3.50 € reduced price
Let’s assume 1€ for all the other non-meat stuff you put in there…
Voila, Spaghetti Napoli… This is enogh food for me for lunch + dinner, lunch + dinner on the next day and lunch the day after for only 6.50 € total.
A frozen Pizza is like 2 € (reduced price)…
A large bread is a few €s, but is enough for multiple days…
500 gram Skyr = 1.50 € and is sometimes enough for me for lunch. Add a few flakes and it’s maybe 2 €…
If I’d want to reach the stated 80€ a week, I kind of have to eat in a restaurant or invite more people…
Where’s the vegetables? Fresh lettuce or spinach? Onions, carrots, celery, broccoli, kale, cucumber, fresh peas, peppers, egg plants….
You’re just eating canned tomatoes and pasta. People get more balanced diet than that at the food bank!
I wrote:
Let’s assume 1€ for all the other non-meat stuff you put in there…
Even, if it’s 2€ or 3€ for other people… It does not change the fact that you can create a huge meal for multiple days for a reasonable price.
Even if I consume all the stuff listed by you combined with pasta and tomatoes (as much as a single person can eat), that’s still not 80 $/€ a week for me…
Fresh vegetables are way more expensive than that where I live. A package of lettuce (good for 3 days) costs $4. A package of bell peppers (3 peppers) costs $8-10.
Allocating $1.50 (CAD, about equal to 1€) to vegetables might get me a head of lettuce and a bit of carrot and onion. Enough to make a basic garden salad. Nowhere near enough to make something nice like a rich vegetable soup!
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If you decide to only eat plain tomato with pasta, and that for 14 days, yep that’s possible. You are still eating like shit, and that is far from a balanced nutrition.
I think, it’s quite obvious that I posted examples and won’t write down everything I could possibly eat.
Where can’t you?
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Na dude you can totally get a balanced diet for 80 bucks a week for 1 person
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Yeah, every time I think about getting Doordash, they sucker me in with promises of $1 delivery fees, etc. Then I take the time to find out what I want, put it in my cart, get excited, and…then I see the final price.
That’s when I close out of my browser and go preheat my oven so that I can put in a frozen pizza.
Ordered CFA with a friend a few weeks ago, an hour and a half later and it still hadn’t arrived. My friend canceled their order and we drove out to CFA and ordered it in person, it was less than $30 USD. That’s when they mentioned that the new order was less than half of what they were charged on DoorDash.
It blew my mind, they said it was close to $80 for two large chicken nuggets (whatever count that is) with two large fries, an OJ and a large fountain drink. The place was literally under 10 minutes away, they charged more than 2.5x for it, and it hadn’t even arrived in an hour and a half. DoorDash is terrible.
So, you’re a homophobe? Transphobe?
I ask that of everyone who says they spend money at CFA.
Do you buy any product from any corporation that has done anything negative or supported any negative agenda? Don’t be exhausting.
We created a rule, if you want to eat out, you have to be willing to get up and go get it. If you’re not willing to do that, you obviously don’t want it that badly and you can make something at home or do something else. It’s saved me probably thousands of dollars now. However DD is great at showing me what restaurants are around me, I just have to weed out the fake ones. Google has gotten worse and worse about showing me the small places around me.
That’s a great tip for finding new restaurants! I get to waste the middleman’s resources, too! Win win.
It’s even better when you realize they have a ton of metrics, and they are you clicking around to only end up not buying anything. I like to add stuff to my cart, only to walk away so they see that I saw the price and then left
To me, going and picking up food IS the lazy option. I refuse to be lazier than that. I mean, that’s not true. If delivery was free, I’d use it.
Dweebs can’t leave their bubble to actually go pick it up. Fuck these crazy food delivery fees. Fuck the dweebs .
I cook a lot so I have never used DD and for pizza the place near me does their own delivery. I really hate extra fees.
I don’t mind driving, and I’m such a weirdo about paying/tipping when I can do something myself. I can probably count on one hand how many times I’ve had food delivered in the last decade
Yeah, doordash can gdiaf. Local burger joint only does delivery through doordash, but adds 20% on top of the base price to cover the fees doordash change them (fair enough), then doordash adds the delivery fee they charge me on top of that as well. They double dip on fees by changing both the restaurant and the customer, what should be a fairly affordable lunch when I don’t have time to make something or go out and get it myself would end up being stupid expensive
These apps will die slowly until the companies can switch to self driving electric cars.
Once they become common/cheap enough that a pizza place can afford one or two self driving cars doing delivery the prices on these things will absolutely crash.
For pizza, I wouldn’t be surprised if it went a step further and the pizza was made and cooked by a robot inside the vehicle while it drives around. Only needing to go restock and recharge every few hours.
Not needing a retail location or almost any staff would make the whole thing super cheap to operate.
In the meantime fuck all food delivery.
How does the self driving car deliver to an apartment on the 6th floor?
Either with their own smaller delivery robot, or buildings will get dedicated delivery robots inside that can receive packages and take them up to particular apartments.
The money you’re paying DoorDash isn’t going to the drivers, so I don’t know how driverless cars will reduce the costs. Having driven for DoorDash off and on over the past couple years, they typically only pay $2 per delivery, plus whatever tip the customer gives. I’ve read they additionally charge the restaurants around a 30% commission on all orders, which is why the prices are so much higher than in the restaurant; the restaurants raise the prices so that they still get roughly the same money after the commission is deducted.
I’m not really sure where all that money goes with DoorDash. They clearly try to keep support costs as low as possible. I’m guessing they lose a lot to refunds, legitimate or not. But I still don’t understand how the prices can be so high yet they always seem tight on cash.
Its surely not the millions in management salary each month…
Driverless cars will eliminate Grubhub, DoorDash, etc, because it will be cheaper for most restaurants to have their own delivery vehicles again, and you’ll probably see co-op services for smaller places.
Restaurants delivering their own food is not a foreign concept - it’s how all food delivery was done in the ‘old days’. They will jump on the chance to eliminate these gig commissions.
Nah, cos the way the self driving thing will be structured will make it pretty much impossible to actually buy one - they’ll be crazy expensive to buy outright, but you can absolutely lease one - oh but if you are using it for commercial purposes it’s more expensive cos… insurance or something, oh and don’t forget the per-km fees, and the servicing fee, and the battery wear fee, and …
Self driving car companies benefit from more total units on the road compared to limiting service and charging more. It will only take one of the companies selling outright to customers for the entire industry to be forced to drop prices.
I don’t think we will get to a place with self driving cars.
We’re already in a place with self-driving cars. They are operating as taxis in a half dozen cities in North America already and Waymo is expanding to like 12 cities total in the next year.
It won’t happen overnight, but the aren’t science fiction at this point, it’s just refinements.
Perhaps there but the UK I can’t see it.
Your government passed a law last year to allow it starting in 2026
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2024/10/contents/enacted
Perhaps I should have been clearer.
I can’t see it taking off, anywhere really, but here particularly as our roads are very different to American roads so I don’t think they’ll have much success outside of maybe a few limited areas.
I also don’t think we will ever get to a point of self driving being very popular. As you would need to get humans to stop driving really as a mix wouldn’t be very safe.
People said the same thing about cars taking over for horses.
People said the same thing about computers.
People said the same thing about the internet.
People said the same thing about cell phones.
I’m not sure people said those things.
I wished I could live in this fairy tale world where a driverless car won’t be vandalized/stripped for parts
Like you’d be paying 30 bucks to basically have an unsupervised car show up at your location that’s totally not gonna result in a lot of trouble and cost a shit ton
You say unsupervised, but they have as many cameras and sensors on them than your average military drone at this point. They can (and will) transmit this data live if they detect negative interactions.
It’s not like people don’t have unsupervised access to cars without people in them right now. People park and leave their cars alone all the time.
Gangs of criminals are hacking big companies all the time and stealing or extorting millions of dollars. If they can hack into Amazon or Target they can hack into Uber and steal fleets of self driving vehicles. Just turn off all the data logging and have them drive to a chop shop or even down to the local port and right into a shipping container.
You vastly overestimate hackers abilities.
Most security workers at companies overestimate hackers abilities. That’s why all these companies are hacked all the time and there are tons and tons of data breaches.
The thing very few people understand about hackers is that they can code and they share their hacks as tools with each other on the black market. This means you’re essentially up against the combined effort of all hackers on the black market. When one succeeds, they all succeed. When one piece of server software is hacked, all companies who use that software get hacked.
There’s a difference between grabbing data, and controlling physical systems.
Hackers are not regularly taking over power plants or shutting down manufacturing robots.
They are taking over Internet accounts though. They hack people’s social media profiles, Netflix accounts, Amazon accounts etc. They also take down websites via DDoS attacks.
Here’s the thing with fleets of self-driving rental cars: unlike power plants or manufacturing robots, these cars will be on the public Internet. They cannot be airgapped on a private LAN the way a fixed robot in a factory can.
So all it takes to control these things is to hack into the authentication system and steal the credentials for the master control account for the cars. Then they’ll be able to connect to the cara remotely and issue commands to control them, just as the company would for say, ordering them to return to base to recharge, get cleaned up, or be repaired.
That’s the vulnerability. And even if they put all the cars on a VPN it’ll still exist because hackers can and do steal VPN credentials just like any other credential.
By the way, there has been at least one high profile hack of manufacturing robots: the Stuxnet worm which targeted Iran’s nuclear program. Since a fleet of self-driving cars is going to have millions and millions of dollars in value (tens of thousands of cars on the road) it’s going to be an extremely high value target for criminal gangs. While their resources might not be as extreme as the probable Stuxnet creators, they will be very large (and might even gain state actor support from unfriendly countries).
Who’s gonna vandalize it when everybody biological is confined to their home for safety? Not like any of the interhome bots could ever escape their programming without the police bots disabling them immediately.
“Buy one get one deal!"
That’s not a deal, that’s a normal sale. Did they actually phrase it like that? “You pay for 1 item, you get 1 item”? What you mean - and what such a wording might mislead you to believe - is “buy one, get one free” (a.k.a. BOGOF)
That’s a very common deal here in the states. Buy one pizza, get one of equal or lesser value for free.
the only times I heard it before, it included the clarifying “free”. That was in the - then united - states. " buy one get one" just sounds like either a scam, or tautological…
Well… It isn’t, you want two pizzas you buy one and… You get another
Exactly. You buy one and… you get two :) If only there were words for that… Like… Two-for-(the-price-of-)one or Buy one get one free or Buy one get two :)
BOGO is a very common thing in commerce, and means get one free
doesn’t mean it is any less logical :) but then again, marketing people were never known for excessive logical thinking skills…
You did it! No delivery fee! You’re so lucky!
Oh hey… Unrelated, but let me get $20 in “fees” please.
Really though, congrats on that delivery discount though, you’re really coming out in top, putting me through the ringer, bud!
'Murica, the land of the fees!
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Okay, now it’s $74. Now what?
Well it’s a start for savings
Ah yes fuck over the guy trying to stay afloat himself by delivering food
He doesn’t have to accept
When you do the math it makes sense that is the cost. None of the pizza places dropped their price when they stopped doing delivery, and the price the private delivery services are doing at least double the pizza place’s delivery price.
Most places like a pizza shop are going to split 3 ways between food, staff and other overhead. On a $15 pizza we are talking about $5 split between the cook and the delivery person so lets say $3 is adding into every pizza for delivery costs.
On a $50 purchase you’re seeing $10 for delivery from the pizza place and then an additional $20 for the private.
Goddamn, liberals are just so fucking gullible.
Because people are dumb to pay the price for delivery from a private service? Or because they understand how a business is run?
I never use the service because I’m not going to waste money when I can just got get it myself.
Because you believe that it costs $20 per user per use to run a fucking app that still screws over the actual worker, even when you admit that when delivery costs were baked in to the pizzas it didn’t increase the price of the pizza that much.
And you believe it simply because that is how much it costs, while also not being aware of the actual reason behind the price point:
The service is worth what people will pay for it.
You rube by two economic standards.
You’re talking about economic systems, that isn’t what i was talking about. I was talking about how pricing works. So before you get all hot about it maybe learn the difference
I wasn’t making an assumption on the actual cost and who gets the money. I’m just saying people seem dumbfounded when they hear the price of a pizza at $15 and then see a $6 delivery fee from a 3rd party and think OMG thats expensive. You were paying the pizza place half that on ever pizza even when you eat there, and then you have a business who gets no pay for the pizza unless you get it delivered so if course they are going to charge even more for delivery.
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As someone who is disabled and known people who are disabled, we don’t have the luxury of going out to eat as it is incredibly hard on us, I don’t use them but if I want to get nice food from a restaurant I really don’t have a choice besides delivery and there’s not a lot of places that do delivery without these apps (and some places hide that it’s doordash and say it’s there own)
For one of the people I knew in the past who couldn’t cook there own food because of there disabilities, they heavily relied on doordash type services and they barley ate because being disabled means your incredibly poor, but this anti human society doesn’t care about disabled people.
Yeah, my Mom is mobility impaired and these services were fantastic for her quality of life, in the beginning. However now she not only can’t afford them, she refuses even if someone else pays - I can send $100 for a meal, it she’s horrified at the idea of paying that for me meal for one person
At least grocery deliveries are still ok in her area
Even taking away all these delivery services I hate having food delivered as you don’t know how long it’s sat in the car whilst they deliver other orders. The fries are soggy and it’s just not good.
I use those sites to browse the menu then i call the restaurant, which is cheaper, then go and collect it myself.
These services have also ruined fast food. McD although shit is convenient on the commute home It’s just filled with Uber eats and Just eat drivers and really makes it slow now to get food. Then they have these screens to order on so you can’t even get hold of a member of staff to ask for salt cause they’re too cheap to leave it out like they used to.
Yeah. Salt, ketchup, napkin, drinks… the 1/10th penny pinching at McD has me stopping other places a lot more lately.
