here’s an example for you to drive home why sentiment like this is dumb and creates false equivalencies. when I was 14, I worked at a grocery store. there were two managers that I would get scheduled with. they both sucked and were awful human beings. however, one was a known child predator. which one do you think I’d rather get scheduled with?
- The downvotes were from the pedophile’s wife
And in this case, both are the child predators as they are both financiers of genocide.
To map your analogy to the US 2 party system the one who isn’t a known child predator is also a child predator and works to keeps the other one in power. They both work for the same super predator.
and while one of them had a background in law enforcement the other one is deporting your meemaw to El Salvador because it turns out the real trasure was that your meemaw was a gang member.
BoTH SiDeS aRE ThE SaMe!1!!
Oh, I get it, the .ml instance is where the r/conservatives went, I’m starting to figure out this fediverse stuff already!
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Well in that case its simple. Take the nonpredator. Now in usa voterinos both are doing genocide together. In that case its also simple. Reject both.
The sentiment isn’t dumb. It’s true. The Democrats don’t give a fuck about us plebs. I voted for Harris and absolutely will vote for/choose the lesser evil as long as I’m still able. Doing so does not mean the Dems give any fucks about me.
Remember when Bernie had real momentum behind him and the Dems sabotaged him because Hillary was determined to have her run at the presidency? If the Democratic party gave a fuck about the voting public they’d have gone whole hog behind Bernie.
It the Dems cared about normies, they’d be doing more than performative filibusters that accomplish nothing. If the Democratic party cared they’d be throwing up every fucking roadblock they could to actually try and stop that motherfucker Trump and his fucking cronies.
Are the Dems a better option than the Republicans? Yes. Do the Dems care about us? No. They’re just the less shitty choice.
Neither is also an option. You don’t need to put up with either manager.
great point I should have simply not worked and let my family starve. truly genius intellect
You were 14. What family?
some of us had to work. not everyone has parents who can hold down jobs and bring in money. I worked at a grocery store cause it was easy to grab the perfectly good expired stuff being tossed.
I mean there is the difficult but not acquiescent solution, that coincidentally carries parallels to the real world, of unionizing your work place and using the power of collective bargaining to demand better conditions. This is hard work and takes time and effort, but instead of recognizing that and trying to help, people check out. And those pushing for it are called unrealistic tools of the bad manager and that we demand perfection, while every year the ‘lesser evil’ manager gets a bit more touchy with his subordinates.
Further in the real world analog of this, the ‘lesser evil’ manager is bombing children, and driving us towards climate catastrophe. Yes democratic politicians are better then republican ones, but that doesn’t negate the point of the meme. They do not give a fuck about you, and they will drive us off the climate cliff, they will bomb more children, they will give more tools to the police state, and they will hire more ICE agents. With such stakes we need to do the hard thing and demand better.
Liberals would sooner imagine the end of existence, than the thousands of other alternatives and types of political action and organizing, other than voting for their genocidal parties.
Many imperialized peoples in the world rejected liberalism and its controlled opposition parties, and decided to build their own working class parties to oppose capitalist domination… and they freed themselves from imperialism and uplifted millions of people out of poverty in the process.
Despite being far poorer and less educated than imperial-core liberals, they are much more intelligent, and realize that step 1, is to form their own pro-worker / pro-peasant parties. They don’t eat the shit on a plate given to them like US liberals are happy to do.
spoken like a nazi camp guard.
You are literally the one in the right in this pic. Shaming people for wanting to improve the world rather than voting for your status quo genocidal party.
very funny meme to go with, considering that “choosing the slightly less evil option” is in fact not improving anything about society, but instead just watching society get worse, at a slower pace. you are very intelligent!!
“choosing the less evil option” and then continuing to protest, resist, and break shit will bring about change though. especially when the less evil option didn’t vow to bring in the national guard to crack down on pro Palestine protestors.
y’all are centrists masquerading as leftists, you care more about what you seem to be right and true than the consequences of it
And you are neoliberal cancer, which does nothing to help or improve society
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This meme is the literal antithesis of all of your comments, Mr. “lesser evil”
I’ve never realized how young everyone on Lemmy must be until I came across this thread.
“Just get a different job.” and “Both parties are bad.” are exactly the useless nihilistic asshole attitudes I had about things when I was about half my current age.
lemmy actually tends to skew older than a lot of platforms (ive seen stats for this around just don’t have any on hand). the person I responded to above is actually one of the creators of lemmy. unfortunately, lemmy also skews towards chronically online and white, which means there’s a lot of those opinions floating around.
Yeah, probably an unfair take on my part to chalk it up to age instead of emotional maturity.
Nihilism is just so unproductive. I used to think that attitudes like that were such a smart and obvious response to the absurd state of the world but it’s just an excuse to not engage with reality or accept personal responsibility.
Please point out any evidence of nihilism displayed above. My feeling is certainly that you just have not a clue of what the word means and just use it as a default criticism. I’m sorry the rest of the world doesn’t kowtow to your far-right delusions.
Okay so let’s accept the premise of this post for a minute: “Both major political parties in the US are equally bad.”
What am I supposed to do now? What action can I take to facilitate change?
I’d argue that this is a perspective that simply isn’t helpful even if true. I think it’s an excuse to tune out instead of getting engaged. I think it’s an excuse to wish for a better future instead of putting in the real work it takes to make systemic changes that can actually improve people’s lives. It’s a perspective that encourages doing nothing because ‘nothing matters anyway’.
Even with Biden exiting late, that was a winnable election and the dems botched it by trying to fit as much evil as they thought they could get away with into the platform-- so they could cash the most checks from AIPAC.
If Harris had just said two weeks before the general that she thought what was going on was genocide, she’d be president right now and the minimum of campaign funding would have been lost. Sure the far right would never donate to the dems again, but when you look at what their donations cost us all, why would anyone take that money anyway?
Bringing their priorities into the party was always a massive mistake by DNC leadership.
And the dems like yourself learned nothing from the loss and keep preaching to others to accept lesser evils. When it comes to crimes against humanity I think you’ll find for the dems that enough of their base says “never again – for any ethnicity” that they should not even try this again unless they absolutely want to lose. Theres barely enough base to even try to win again in any case. We’re past any sort of ‘optimizing for highest $$’ strategizing and just fighting for the party to even exist at all anymore. So maybe take your lesser evil metaphor and fold it till its all sharp corners and do the needful.
I’m not a democrat and if I ever turn into one please put me down
Nobody knows “what would have happened” and suggesting it is stupid. Ain’t nothing predictable about this dimension.
Voting and issue polling is not exactly a totally random and unpredictable phenomenon. I know my peeps. If Harris said the words-- even pretended to deviate from Biden, youth and progressives would have showed. And yes, she would have lost the pro war crowd, but thats a tiny group compared to the ones who didnt vote or voted third party.
The youth never show.
And the “pro-war crowd” is larger than the “anti-war crowd” where it comes to Israel.
She would have been president easily, but she loves right wing genocidal shit
What makes you think that?
What evidence do you have?
The fact a bunch of people on Twitter said it doesn’t mean it’s a 1:1 ratio to voting.
All the polls agree people lean more towards Israel than Palestine. Particularly in swing states like Ohio and Pennsylvania.
Avoid that rapist molesting manager, Trump.
This “both sides” is bullshit when you are getting a train run on you by the Republicans…
After the train run on you by democrats…
And the leader of the Democrats describes his job as “keeping the left pro Israel”.
I’m an Independent. But there’s no “leader” of the Democrats, it’s a big-tent party. Chuck is head of the group of Democratic senators, but he doesn’t dictate things outside of Senate business and we don’t blindly all follow everything he says. That’s the difference between electing public servants and people in a cult.
EDIT: Downvote all you want, this is a simple fact. You’re allowed to just want to be mad! But I don’t know why people click the “down” button just because they don’t like what was said… Has anyone used actual logic and facts to disprove me? Of course not…
The only time Democrats won’t fall in line is when they have to vote for Republican budget bills.
So brave speaking truth on a post clearly meant to attract morons.
Correct, but still not even close to the same thing. More of this “balanced” stuff.
Anywho on the plus side, he’s getting wrecked in the polls vs AOC who’s looking to take his place though.
How isn’t it the same thing? Supporting Israel is supporting Israel if you put a Donkey on your branding or an elephant.
Are you denying that the Dems are shit? Just because the Reps are worse and currently in power?
What kind of an argument is that supposed to be?
What are you talking about the initial argument is completely insane to be begin with. I think Biden came into office and reduce child poverty or hunger or something by half as his first action.
We’re gonna compare that to Trump destroying the economy, removing due process, open up national parks to logging, letting DOGE cut departments with corruption, invading other countries?
Lol, while technically true there’s a big picture you’re missing… The start of his presidency did co-incide with some things like the child tax credit etc. that did drop the official measurement to a historic low of 5.2% in 2021, but was then quickly repealed by bipartisan support in Congress causing it to skyrocket to 12.4% in 2022.
In the US the child poverty rate had been slowly, but steadily, declining since the peak of the great recession… Until the Biden presidency circa ~2022 at which point it skyrocketed by the end of his presidency reaching ~2012 levels.
While technically true that “Biden came into office and reduce[d] child poverty [sic] by half as his first action.” It ignores that immediately afterwards he did “destroy the economy”. Don’t get me started on ‘removing due process, open up national parks, cutting departments with corruption, invading other countries’ because also yes!
Not to say Trump is better (we can all agree fuck that guy and all his cronies), but Jim Crow Joe is/was also evil, you’ve just been tricked into thinking otherwise…
Thanks for replying, I just recalled this:
Now we can say he failed but I can’t say that specific act is evil. Palestine on the other hand … ☠️
Like, I get your viewpoints and you guys think I’m trying to bury any negative viewpoints of the democratic party or that I’m brainwashed. Which is funny to me because I hate the establishment Dems. I just think posts saying both suck and attacking the Dems aren’t helpful because they currently have no power. The other party is causing a lot of damage and there seems to be no stopping them so kicking the feckless Dems when they’re down seems weird to me.
I also think the democratic party needs to be ousted by progressive candidates that have a good vision for the future. I’m not gonna lie though I don’t see it happening. The establishment Dems aren’t gonna bow down. Also, I see so many protests happening and although AOC and Bernie have made the news I don’t think I see the Dem leadership taking advantage of this and putting up a solid front either, like wtf is going on? I’m not sure it’s the coverage but it really seems like they’re lost.
The difference is the viewpoint:
attacking the Dems aren’t helpful because they currently have no power. The other party is causing a lot of damage and there seems to be no stopping them
If you buy into the underlying premises of how a liberal democracy functions (liberal used here as a technical term, not as a perjorative) then the only ones who have the power to stop the other party is the Dems and they actively choose not to. They’re neither down, nor out they’re doing their job of controlled opposition exactly as they are supposed to.
I still don’t like saying how they’re both the same because I fundamentally don’t believe that to my core (ie if they had all three branches we wouldn’t be talking about all this current mayhem).
However, I think I understand your point and I agree with it.
So thanks again!
They aren’t the same, one’s a sword and one’s a shield. The shield can’t effectively stab, but the sword can’t either if it’s forced to parry instead.
I engaged because it seemed like there was agreement, just miscommunication. Glad I was able to help cut through it :D. Appreciate you!
What are you talking about the initial argument is completely insane to be begin with. I think Biden came into office and reduce child poverty or hunger or something by half as his first action.
Are you having a stroke? I don’t follow your point and/or syntax.
We’re gonna compare that to Trump destroying the economy, removing due process, open up national parks to logging, letting DOGE cut departments with corruption, invading other countries?
What do you want from me? Obviously we agree that Trump is worse than the Dems.
That still doesn’t make the Dems “not bad”.
Nobody said the Dems were perfect OR not bad through the chain.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence - is what this post is.
Nobody said the Dems were perfect OR not bad through the chain.
Never claimed that someone claimed that. Again: how is the original post wrong?
Two parties in a two party system is no case of “apples and oranges”. That’s as close to a fair comparison as you’re gonna get.
Ghonorrea and pancreatic cancer are two things I don’t want to have. Is this “false equivalency” as well?
Two parties in a two party system is no case of “apples and oranges”. That’s as close to a fair comuarison as yo’'re gonna get
stroke much?
seriously, this isn’t a “fair comparison” because it doesn’t address any sort of nuance nor is it supposed to. It’s supposed to make people go: “yeah the dems suck too” rather than understand anything about what’s going on.
If you claim to be on the same page then whatever, we can just agree on our core points leave it at that.
stroke much?
I guess you never make typos, then. Huh? /s
seriously, this isn’t a “fair comparison” because it doesn’t address any sort of nuance nor is it supposed to.
I’m sorry that I slandered ghonorrea by comparing it to pancreatic cancer. Clearly I forgot the nUaNcE between these two horrible sicknesses. /s
Wait. How can there be any “nuance” if you can’t compare the two parties? Is a comparison of apples with oranges flawed because of the “nuance”?
It’s supposed to make people go: “yeah the dems suck too” rather than understand anything about what’s going on.
That’s what you think the intent is. I think that it’s supposed to state that the US democratic system is not suitable for a fair and equitable world and the Dems are not the solution of the mess the US is in.
You can have your own interpretation but don’t assume that this was OP’s intent.
For sure, the republicans are worst.
But the dems are still not good.
Americans have no representation at all.
You really don’t get it, huh?
People heard that shit last time, and they voted democrat, and Biden won. And ABSOLUTELY NOTHING changed.
At the end of the day, the rich got richer and the poor got poorer, just like they did with trump, and with Obama, and with every single president who has taken office in god knows how many decades.
And still you’re here yapping “oh noes the horrors, vote Dems”.
Bro, the Dems aren’t LISTENING! Get a Bernie up there, or an AOC, or anyone that the people actually believe will do anything other than feeding the same interests they have been feeding.
And if you’re too thick to realize that, at least you’re not alone, the whole DNC is right there with you.
Interesting.
Obama dropped an average of 80 bombs per day on the ME and North Africa during his presidency. The number of civilians murdered is impossible to calculate.
For a USAmerican(or any other person), their primary concern would be their own safety, right?
Unless they can form/support a major third party, they are effectively forced to a two-choice system
Choosing not to participate in the two choice system is how you get a third choice btw
When both choices explicitely lead to mass murder its mandatory for any ethical person to do all they can to make some third outcome happen.
Voting quietly for what may be slightly less mass murder but certainly is still mass murder is a pathetic and shameful way to chart a course forward. A handful of us have more dignity than that.
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What would the steps be for that?
I’m not USAmerican, so I don’t know much of the base level stuff there. I think they have a green party or so. But are they a good/distinct enough choice?
Choosing not to participate is how you become dominated by one of the parties, possibly the one you like the least. The way to actually be able to participate is by trying to change the system itself. By that I mean changing First Past the Post voting in each state, as this is the means through which other political parties would be able to spring up. Another option is to run for government yourself as an actor for change within one of the major political parties.
Make no mistake, changing the system is possible. Alaska and Maine have both done it already. Other states can do it too. I think trying alternative voting systems such as ranked robin voting, STAR voting, score voting, or even ranked choice voting would be a major step towards other political parties and to move away from the most the least liked candidates winning elections.
I’m not sure why this was voted down, real lasting solutions require hard work and organizing to make change. Mind you, changing the system of how we vote alone isn’t the end step, but a starting place for change.
The USA is not the world, and its citizens should start looking towards the welfare of the people their country murders.
True
its exclusive used on reddit, by you guessed it conservatives, and ru trolls, dont fall for that.
When it comes to foreign policy and making the rich richer? Absolutely. The only potential difference is on some social issues.
I can’t deal with US politics right now and this thread.
I’m fucking Canadian and people upvoting this both sides nonsense is getting my blood boiling.
I thought this enlightened centrist shit was over with but people are bringing it up like they’re some next-level IQ genius. When in reality they’re trying their to push people to the right (whether they understand it or not).
You think neoliberalism is on the left? Well, in this case yes we’re pushing people to the “right” if your scale is inverted
When is your country going to return the land they stole to its indigenous peoples? When is the US democratic party going to stop supporting the genocide of Palestine?
If its people not voting for the US democratic party, rather than either of the above issues that “gets your blood boiling”, you might need to re-evaluate which side of the white supremacist line you’re on.
I’m sorry that genocide is okay to you but you draw the line at bad optics. That sounds like a you issue. Genocide apologist don’t tend to be the sharpest tools in the shed though.
whether they understand it or not
If such a thing can be done without understanding, how do you know that you aren’t the one who has been pushed to the right and that you aren’t doing the work of dragging others along with you?
I’m fucking Canadian
So you probably dont even understand the full context of what you’re talking about.
Arent there other countries political websites you can go bother people on? Try Australia, your fellow commonwealth country (sorry australians). Theres plenty of other places to be a touriust with strong opinions about other peoples governments.
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ICE and deportations grew massively during Obama’s presidency.
By the numbers: Under the Obama administration, total ICE deportations were above 385,000 each year in fiscal years 2009-2011, and hit a high of 409,849 in fiscal 2012. The numbers dropped to below 250,000 in fiscal years 2015 and 2016.
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When it involves citizens, it’s a travesty. When, it’s literally everyone else (the overwhelming fucking majority affected by ICE deportations), it’s acceptable collateral, bonus brownie points when it’s done by the Blue team.
Get a grip.
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Did you already forget that it was you that dismissed the deportation statistics posted above during one of Team Blue’s occupation with “ok but this time it’s Team Red and it involves our citizens! This is worse”? So when the Blues do it without citizens, somehow that’s a “fine price to pay”? Is it perhaps, bipartisan unity we’re witnessing? No, it couldn’t be!
Do you understand the underlying racism with that sentiment, and that for as long as you don’t, that you’ll find it difficult to get a grip with reality?
blueMAGA fascists don’t think non-Americans are human
Which is and which isn’t? Who’s political ad was this again about backing the toughest boarder bill ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2F9qGxTKcU?
funniest comment section of all time. my country truly will never change for the better.
I, John Brown, am now quite certain, that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away, but with blood.
He did know that already in 1859
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Oversimplified political apathy
Is what gave you Trump 2
Apathy benefits only the republicans
Democrats better not put forward candidates people are apathetic about then.
Responsibility lies with “The Democrats” (some sort of far away secret group that I can’t influence) and not with any American. If those Democrats can’t give me my perfect candidate, then I’ll just give up and let the fascists win. Also, I can’t figure out why they won’t do this–my ideal liberal candidate would appeal to the majority of Americans!
It is never the party’s job to appeal to voters. There is one designated party that is just owed support and should never have to craft another appeal besides “The Republicans can’t fill out the paperwork properly, that is why we will build the wall faster, put people in concentration camps at greater numbers, and do fascism better and more politely than the dumb, knuckle-dragging fascists”
Being against all genocide isn’t oversimplifying anything
It was oversimplified though. The discussion of genocide often took the form of thought terminating cliches.
That’s how you get things like people refusing to vote for either candidate, leading to a sharp increase in genocide.
There was no recent genocide that had any US involvement. How about minding your own business. Like preventing weighing in at about 800 pounds and not being able to count up to 3 in the voting booth?
That was poetic as shit, man
Or maybe, we can use this to protest and vote for political change. We cannot allow lobbies to buy politicians anymore, and campaign spending must be capped.
No, Democrats and Liberals using Trump 2 as an excuse to be vocally pro-genocide and forcing people to accept pro-fascism is what caused Trump 2, since the party cannot fail only be failed by voters willing to accept fascism but not turned off by crude, ham-fisted forms of fascism. The problem, supposedly, is people that oppose Trump’s policies, rather than just needing the Trump policies being polite. It is the Democrat’s need to always adopt all of the previous Republican policies, and their only goal is being the Republicans, but polite. If Genocide and fascism is not a red line, but completely acceptable to support, as long as you can imagine another regime doing the genocide slightly worse, there is no evil you will not work for and support.
Voting is not a sign of support for everything the candidate does. It’s a choice for who you want to be in the position, and none of the above is not a possible outcome.
Choosing to not vote means you’re choosing whoever the majority of voters pick
LMAO stupid
The funniest thing about non Americans is that they think most of us don’t fucking know this. It’s so annoying
The Republicans have all three branches of government and are fucking us over! I know, let’s drag out the both-sides-are-the-same arguments!!
Take your cynicism and both sides arguments and shove them off your ass.
You got a real shelf to be shoving things off
In fact some of them hate you and consider you to be a parasite no matter what you do.
But their tolerance for making you suffer differs significantly.
Why are the American right red and left blue, the opposite to most other places?
They actually swapped which color was representing which party in election years on TV until the 2000 election. The election coverage went on until the almost the end of that year due to contested Presidential Election that went to the Supreme Court but the concept of “red states” and “blue states” was burned into the collective memory so hard they just stayed like that afterwards.
There is no official color designation for the parties; and they used to commonly be “reversed” although it varied from media outlet to outlet.
Here's a blue Reagan button from the 1980 election.
The colors “switching” is almost entirely a media fabrication. Different television networks trying out different colours and configurations, copying each other, chasing viewer numbers, etc. and the 2000 election is where it gets kind of standardized as what we have today.
“My firm belief is that the turning point in red/blue states was the national map (that) USA Today ran the day after the election in 2000, in which — for whatever reason — red was Republican and blue was Democratic-”
Keating Holland, CNN’s director of polling and election analysis from 1993 to 2014.
That’s a detailed answer, thank you.
It’s just in the rest of the world it’s red for left and blue for right. The USA is the other way round, I wonder if it’s similar to Labour Day in the USA being a different day.
I suspect the red=left association has to do with socialism which is haram in the US. Also the democrats go all the way back to Jefferson and were the conservative party until FDR.
During the 2000 election all the major news networks happened to use red for states that went Republican and blue for states that went Democratic, and it kind of stuck since.
That’s what happens when lobbies can just buy your politicians
well to be fair %100 republicans and about %90 of democrats don’t give a shit about you
Bernie is an Independent, so it’s more like 95
Americans think their favorite political sports team cares about them like the stripper actually loved them. No, you just gave them what they wanted and as soon as you’re out of sight, they’ll forget you and keep doing their job.
For strippers it’s doing a workout for a living and being proud of their bodies. For politicians it’s gaslighting the public into thinking they’re the good guys as they socially murder at home and sweep up blood abroad.
Imagine being unable to tell the difference between Biden and Trump.
Wow. Just a colossal global scale wow. You chose this week to BoTh sIdEs it all!
You have not just buried your head in the sand, you have then stirred vast amounts of cement powder into the sand and then watered your mortar mix and waited for it to set.
As an outside viewer, the Democrats seem like the obvious better choice. The also obviously don’t care about you that much. From what I can tell, while their actions are not outright destructive towards you, they at least seem only superficially helpful.
And sure, that’s much better. I don’t think they care about you.
“This parent abuses you much less than the other. Why are you complaining?!?!?!”
Interesting analogy I have found. There is a plethora of psychology and sociology studies that show that children in abusive relationships end up hating the parent that refuses to stand up to the abusive parent more than the parent doing the abusing. Even if the child wouldn’t phrase it this way, there is an acceptance that abusive alcoholics exist. It is the supposedly good and sober parent letting it happen and enabling it that generates the greatest anger and hatred in the child.
And back in real life rather than your imagination, we’ve got the actual rapist versus the guy who once smelled someone’s hair. Yeah definitely both the same. /s
Yeah, America is a capitalist hellhole, but the false equivalence you folks are pushing is absolutely astonishing.
Grossly oversimplifying how the Democrats SQUASH real progressives and bring watered down meager “progress.” Despite the fact survey after survey will show the vast majority of the country wants significant progressive change or at least agrees with the ideas, like right to abortion or gun control measures, or expanded healthcare.
They lost multiple times in the last decade by forcing candidates the majority clearly did not want, but settled for. They forced Biden back into the picture, and Biden was unwilling to do anything serious or drastic while he had the reigns.
They toss out ideas cranked up to 4 instead of 10, get challenged, and then throw up their hands like they’re all out of options while the other side destroys the place with them.
Look at Schumers actions last month with the Continuing Resolution. Pathetic weasel.
Yes. The literal Nazi is the worst. But that doesn’t make the democrats actions okay. The democrats have been the enablers who allowed it to get this far with the Nazis. Together, both parties are doing everything they can to control the narrative and not let it get out of their hands.
Learn to walk and chew gum at the same time. Anger does not need to have a binary limit.
Joe Biden also raped a woman, Tara Reid.
How many did he deport in the middle of the night without due process?
Well, can’t guarantee that he can maintain the record over the next few months, but currently Biden holds the record.
We currently have two parties in the US:
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The Nazi party.
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The Nazi collaborator party.
One is objectively better than the other, but that ain’t saying much.
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Oh yes this is exactly what OP is saying. I’m sure Biden along with all the other Democrat politicians care IMMENSELY about everyone and are pure, benevolent beings. OP is 100% wrong. Democrat politicians treat every US citizen as if they are their own child. As long as the Republicans continue to do awful shit I will 100% believe this is how the world runs!
Concrete. Pure concrete. Up to the neck. Your reality denial is top notch. Imagine choosing this week to defend this kind of post. Wow.
Not about that though, is it?
In America, it matters which people are for the party, not which party supports people.
