I kept burning my food or wait forever for the pan to heat up and I finally understand why. Each knob has a different direction for the Hi and Lo (also why isn’t it Low).

    • @Kinyutaka@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      12 years ago

      That’s at least semi normal. Outside knobs are front, inside are back. Center for the oven.

      As long as they’re labeled and spin the same way, I’m fine.

      But what Lovecraftian villain came up with OP’s oven controls?

  • Pandantic
    link
    fedilink
    522 years ago

    It’s like your stove top was the experimental test one where you could see how all the knob styles worked, like it wasn’t supposed to be released to the public.

  • @VanessaCorr@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    12 years ago

    On mine the high setting is right in the middle, so both zero rotation and full rotation means off, while middle means “full blast”, even now sometimes I make the mistake of turning it up to cook faster only to accidentaly close it all together, always great when you’re in a rush -.-

  • Nacktmull
    link
    fedilink
    English
    32 years ago

    This is actually pretty infuriating for me to look at and I´m getting violent impulses from it. You should at least have put a trigger warning before it you monster!

    • LazaroFlimOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      12 years ago

      I guess you can screenshot my post and repost it on !mildlyinfuriating …

    • LazaroFlimOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      82 years ago

      Depends on which direction you turn the knob. If can be Mild ore Extremely…

  • @intensely_human@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    332 years ago

    You have double burners. Some of your knobs have two HI and two LO positions, one for one burner and one for both burners.

    On top of the stove this looks like two concentric heating elements. You can turn on one or both. Turning on both is sometimes called a “fast boil” burner.

    The best solution the industry has come up with is to put two control surfaces into one knob, so instead of the control surface being a full circle it’s a half circle.

    There’s no way to make all the knobs match in appearance unless all the burners have optional double burner operation.

    source: am appliance salesman.

    • LazaroFlimOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      112 years ago

      Yes they’re double burners but the Lo -> Hi rotation is different for each position which is infuriating, but only mildly.

      • @intensely_human@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        12 years ago

        I see what you mean.

        What they should do is make the rule: “clockwise is hotter”, and make all the LO…HI arcs increase in the clockwise direction.

        Then no matter which burner you’re adjusting, you know it’s a clockwise movement.

        They should also have a little LED light bar that changes length to show how high that burner’s setting. As you turn clockwise, it lengthens toward “full on”.

        The LED light bar should light up whenever a knob is touched.

        Need high temp LEDs too I guess.

    • @johnthebeboptist@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      62 years ago

      My folks had a stove with two (electric) heat elements in the same way I assume OP has, to use both, you had to go 360° all the way to a full circle where it “clicked”, then go back to where you wanted it at. Much easier and sensible IMO than whatever the hell this headache is.

  • Kushan
    link
    fedilink
    English
    32
    edit-2
    2 years ago

    I’m really trying to understand what’s going on here in a way that makes sense, even if it’s a twisted kind of sense.

    My best guess is that each of these burners are a different size and some have multiple rings and that by turning the knob left (Anti-clockwise), you’re going from smaller number of rings to larger number of rings - however, the rings start at their highest heat level. So looking at the bottom right dial as an example, the first “Notch” on the left is the smallest burner on the highest setting, then as you turn left more, it’ll dial down that burner until you get to the second ring on the burner - starting at full power for that second burner and continuing to lower power until you get to the 3rd ring, then it’s same again for the 4th ring.

    Is that right? am I even close? I don’t understand why you’d go from smallest burner to highest burner anti-clockwise, but go from lowest burner-power to highest clockwise. That still doesn’t make sense to me.

    • LazaroFlimOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      42 years ago

      Yes they’re rings. Still doesn’t explain why not everything is in the same rotational direction.

    • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️
      link
      fedilink
      English
      29
      edit-2
      2 years ago

      That’s pretty much exactly how it is.

      OP’s stove is GCRE3060AF, or similar. The rightmost knob is inconsistent for reasons I cannot fathom, unless there is some obscure electrical reason. It is an electric stove, and the knobs with multiple ranges do indeed control burners that have multiple potential sizes. One of them has two selectable sizes, and other has three. On these I believe the rationale is that the high setting is the closest and most easily accessible because radiant electric ranges suck [citation not needed] and since they take forever and a day to heat up most users will just leap right to the full blast output setting immediately. I have no idea why the direction on the last knob is backwards from the others, clockwise versus counterclockwise, but it is.

      If you’re morbidly curious, you can view the entire control panel from OP’s stove (or one similar) here.

          • @june@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            32 years ago

            I can’t decide if I prefer this (my stove is this way) or bumping the knobs with my hips.

            • @AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              English
              22 years ago

              My stove has the front knobs, it’s gas, and it’s been bumped on accidentally more than once and someone else walks into the kitchen and has the horrifying realization that the kitchen smells like gas. I think I prefer the electric stove I had as a kid.

              • ThatBaldFella
                link
                fedilink
                English
                22 years ago

                That’s why modern gas stoves have safety valves. There’s a temp sensor near the burner which automatically shuts the gas off if the burner isn’t lit.

          • LazaroFlimOP
            link
            fedilink
            English
            12 years ago

            That was a choice. We have a young kid who loooves touching buttons and turning knobs.

            • @papabobolious@feddit.nu
              link
              fedilink
              English
              22 years ago

              Well that’s fair and relatable. My kid keeps turning on the oven and turning off the dishwasher. Our stove has touch controls on the surface that he hasn’t figured out quite yet, but since it’s an induction stove it turns off pretty quickly if nothing is on it.

              • LazaroFlimOP
                link
                fedilink
                English
                22 years ago

                Our dishwasher has buttons on the i side. You need to open the door to control it. Then when you close it it looks clean with no buttons.

      • LazaroFlimOP
        link
        fedilink
        English
        132 years ago

        Yep. It’s. GCRE3060AFF electric stove. (Other thing I hate is the fan noise when the oven is on, even when not on convection). Your idea of Hi closest to off position makes sense except of that triple knob, the 3rd ring Hi position isn’t at the top.

        • BarqsHasBite
          link
          fedilink
          English
          22 years ago

          Have you Google the fan being on all the time? Ours (different model) doesn’t do that and they really shouldn’t.

          • @warling@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            22 years ago

            It has to do with keeping the internal circuit boards cool so they don’t overheat due to the heat from the oven. We had a stove that did that too. I hated that thing. It would roar like a jet engine for about 30 minutes even after you turned the oven off.

            • @Heisl@feddit.de
              link
              fedilink
              English
              22 years ago

              US kitchen appliances are so weird and bad. I don’t get why your stuff doesn’t progress like over here in EU. We get the cleanest, modern, most silent kitchen setups ever.

              • LazaroFlimOP
                link
                fedilink
                English
                32 years ago

                Because you can make a larger profit by keeping the same design and parts on a crap product and charge you an inflated premium vs selling you a good product with decent R&D and testing. If it’s all crap you can’t tell you’re being fucked. Same thing with sliding guillotinée windows and health insurance.

        • LazaroFlimOP
          link
          fedilink
          English
          42 years ago

          I’m sure there’s a lazy engineer reason. But as someone who does engineering semi-professionally, come on! You don’t skimp out on UX just because it’s easier to make it this way! There is a reason why Murphy’s Law exists! And in this case it’s actually a fire hazard!

            • LazaroFlimOP
              link
              fedilink
              English
              12 years ago

              Well, for starter. Pick a direction for Lo -> Hi either clockwise or counterclockwise and stick to it.

              The rotating knob is great. Haptic feedback. You can see it’s off at a clan r from afar. It’s not an encoder but a potentiometer so each position always has the same function hard coded. Just make them all turn in the same direction.

              I would chose counter-clockwise as it’s easier to turn it that way for a right handed person (and that’s how the single burners are designed, all 3 of them (although the warm zone has a weird dead zone for some reason). Start on Lo until it gets to Hi then for multiple ring ones when you hit ring_1 hi and continue you get to ring_2 Lo and so on.

    • @TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      12 years ago

      That’s what I’m thinking, the different burners have different rings that are individually controlled

  • @fubo@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    52 years ago

    One office I worked in had a toaster with a knob where “off” is almost all the way to the left.

    Turning the knob to the right lets you control the toasting time, like any other knob-based timer.

    But if you turn it left from the “off” position, that’s the “stay on” position.

    So if you’d set the timer, and then wanted to cancel it, you can’t just turn it all the way left like on any other knob timer. If you do that, you’re telling it to stay on forever and eventually scorch the table and set off the fire alarm.