Researchers jailbreak a Tesla to get free in-car feature upgrades::A group of researchers found a way to hack a Tesla’s hardware with the goal of getting free in-car upgrades, such as heated rear seats.

  • @swirle13@lemmy.world
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    452 years ago

    This looks to have already been discovered years ago as this company sells an OBD2 plug that can toggle all of this stuff, as well as highjacking some controls to add new functionality, as well as adding 50HP to those cars with a specific rear motor version https://ingenext.ca/products/ghost-upgrade

    Is this method software only? Because the upgrades on that site are pretty expensive and proprietary.

    • Zorro
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      12 years ago

      Teslas have x64 CPU’s? What the hell?

    • @MowFord@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      If you read the article it is different. This relies on physically bringing connections to gain root access to the file system.

      It’s also unlikely Tesla can’t just watch for modified files and update them everytime the car goes into drive or something. They probably won’t do it, but to claim it’s impossible is just disingenuous

    • Rentlar
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      42 years ago

      If I hear I can solder a modchip to a Tesla to get free features, bypass paid subscription stuff, I totally would.

  • Bappity
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    182 years ago

    GOOD!! I despise it when hardware features are held at ransom!

  • Iron Lynx
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    722 years ago

    Can somebody build & sell a dumb electric car? Or at least one not permanently internet-enabled and/or that has no functionality and capabilities locked behind software and subscriptions?

    • @madnificent@lemmy.world
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      112 years ago

      The Dacia Spring fits the bill out of necessity (price). It is not fast, it has low range, uses cheap materials and it is rather small.

      But I don’t think it can spy on you and it’s charming through its simple honesty.

    • @Agent641@lemmy.world
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      Ive been genuinely thinking about getting into business selling dumb stuff exclusively. Dumb tvs, fridges, washers, phones, printers watever. Just a safe online vendor where you know that what you buy wont connect to the internet, need a subscription, or require a credit card on file to work. I just need a business name.

      • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘
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        212 years ago

        That’s a neat idea, and definitely a product group that I’ve been actively looking for. But I do find it ironic that your business model is of an online vendor that sells offline versions of online appliances haha

        • GroteStreet 🦘
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          52 years ago

          Was on the market for a TV for my grandparents recently. I just need a monitor, digital receiver, and remote - in one neat package. How hard can it be?

          Very, apparently. Can’t even find cheap Chinese crap that isn’t “smart” these days.

          • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘
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            12 years ago

            Thrift stores are where the remaining dumb tech is currently housed… until they, too, are emptied.

  • Grant_M
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    42 years ago

    Muskovite builds vehicles with a built in micro-transaction PTW scheme? Hilarious.

  • @deafboy@lemmy.world
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    22 years ago

    A lower hanging fruit is usually present in systems like this. I wonder if they’ve tried glitching because thats what they were familiar with it, or if the software was not easily exploitable.

    • @lazyvar@programming.dev
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      82 years ago

      Typically low level attacks such as these is where it starts because they grant access to parts that can be used to learn more about the system as a whole.

      This understanding then can be used to find easier to exploit avenues.

      A good example of this is the history of exploits on Nintendo hardware.

      They almost all started with finding an exploit at the hardware level, which then subsequently lead to finding software exploits and ways to leverage them in an easy way for end users.

      • @deafboy@lemmy.world
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        12 years ago

        That’s interesting. In a world where everything runs webkit, I thought it would work the other way around.

  • @mydickismicrosoft@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    This is great. When you buy the car, you own it. I don’t care what kind of weird licenses and contracts they put together. If I buy the car and there is hardware in the car that allows for heated seats, there is no reason why I shouldn’t be able to enable them myself, tear them out, or do whatever I want with them. It is mine.

    I can understand there being safety concerns for modifying a car. But the owner of the car already excepts liability for the operation of that car. If I do not modify the car and I get into an accident due to Teslas auto pilot feature or another thing baked into their system, does Tesla accept liability? No, they do not. If it is my responsibility for the safe operation of the vehicle, then it is also my responsibility to modify a vehicle in a safe manner. 

  • Noah
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    It’s ridiculous how nowadays a lot of hardware car features are locked behind a simple software switch. Feels like both a massive waste of resources for people that don’t buy the upgrades, and like having to pay for a feature that is already physically present in your car. Software-only upgrades like full self driving are understandable, hardware upgrades locked behind a software gate aren’t.

    [cross-posted from my reply to the same article on c/news]