cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/2881638
The largest piracy community is hosted over at !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
lemmy.world has blocked it. It appears to have also blocked !piracy@lemmy.ml.
If this is a problem for you, I’d suggest migrating accounts using LASIM to an instance that doesn’t block it (such as lemm.ee).
edit:
An official announcement has been made:
Why would lemmy world do this?
It was inevitable and it’s not their fault. Because of how the Fediverse works it means they’re storing all content from those communities on their servers too. This means they’re storing piracy content and can be subject to a takedown.
We knew larger instances would defederate from piracy communities at some point, don’t take it out on the admins.
You sure lemmy.world stores content from other servers inside their own?
isn’t that a huge scalability issue?
The user is correct. That’s how Lemmy works currently
Oh wow. That could shut down smaller instances if they can’t keep up with storage space.
All post and comment data is duplicate across instances. Uploaded files are not, they are simply linked to.
The communities discuss piracy, not host the content. They are two different things.
The user that requested it was a troll account create dhours before. The same user then went on to create a transphobic community and post hate. Not the sort of person the admins should be knee jerking to.
The Pirate Bay also doesn’t host content, just links to torrents. Why has it been taken down then several times already?
When you directly link pirated content it becomes a liability. Doesn’t matter if the actual content is on your own server or hosted with a third party.
c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com rule 3:
Don’t request or link to specific pirated titlesLiterally wasn’t even an issue. Its a bad take by power tripping admins spurred on by a troll. All-round terrible decision.
Also comparing a Lemmy community to Pirate Bay is a gross exaggeration.
The communities discuss piracy, not host the content. They are two different things.
Yup, agreed 100%. The mods didn’t handle this “complaint” appropriately.
I see the mods and admins are both not paying attention and are incompetent.
It’s illegal so of course they have to block it.
You can find pirated material on the web elsewhere so why is it important if it’s on Lemmy or not?
Imagine if the idiotic media starts writing about Lemmy as a pirate network or something worse.
It’s adult individuals running these servers, not companies. They would get punished in 2 seconds.
You want them to risk committing crimes for running a Lemmy instance?
If you want to downvote this, maybe you should run something illegal first in public and see how it goes.
My personal opinion prefer to keep certain special interests communities less exposed to general public, ie fight club rule 1.
Is blocking a community the right approach? I think so, from the perspective of a general populous instance.
well lemmy.blahaj.zone doesn’t block it (not sponsored ad)
I’m late to comment, so I may be typing into the void.
I understand the admin’s decision to limit their exposure to legal risk. I had similar experiences as a small business owner and you would be surprised how quickly most people’s idealism is tempered by the risk of potential legal action. It’s totally possible to believe strongly in the legality of something and its benefit to society (in this case piracy) and still choose to limit your own legal exposure. As far as I know, none of us paid to be here, so the polite thing to do is say “thank you for hosting us” and move on if it’s not your thing (or just make a second account).
I believe our current copyright/intellectual property scheme is broken at best, and designed to fuck us out of every bit of culture that has ever existed, at worst. Piracy exists because the system is broken and the industry is entrenched and refuses to adapt to customer demands. It screws music fans, artists, and probably the individual low-level employees of many music industry companies and organizations.
It’s seems like a reasonable choice to me, I don’t understand why this is being posted on mildly infuriating, you can just make an second account if you want to go to that instance
The nice thing about federation is that we can all go fuck ourselves and die alone on our personal private servers under a bridge.
I need help. Can someone log in to lemmy dbzer0? I cant, every time I try I get a 400 bad request error.
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This is not difficult to deal with, setup an account on another server and stop using lemmy.world
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Huh, isn’t this Spez strategy?
5D chess in all its glory!
No need to stop using LW. I’ve got three accounts on different instances plus kbin. Oh, and I fifth on if you count my nsfw login. Partitioning your online life is nbd, really. And the fediverse makes it easy.
Why bother to have 5, an account on a single decent instance should be sufficient.
Sopuli was my original instance from before I knew what the Fediverse was but however they have their server set federated community discovery has been broken from the beginning. World is my reddit migration account and I moderate a couple of communities there. I really like some of the communities on Beehaw, and they defederated pretty quickly from just about anyone with more than a few users, so I got an account there. Kbin didn’t seem to work as well cross-federation so…number 4. And I use a different handle for NSFW. It would be nice to have an app for aggregating usernames across instances, but I much of my browsing from desktop so it’s really nbd.
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What the heck?
Seems like my backup account is about to be my main account after all LMAO.
For legal reasons? Isn’t lemmy.world hosted somewhere else but the USA?
This is bullshit honestly, I hope they back up from this decision… Unlike Beehaw defederating from others because of light reasons.
So I’ve seen u/loudWaterEnjoyer suggest the Divisions by zero instance, which I applied for (be sure to follow the vetting rules!), and u/Historical_General mentioned and suggested the lemm.ee and lemmy.ml instances, but it appears that the .ml TLD throws a “registration_closed” error…
Anybody have any other suggestions for backups and secondary accounts, that aren’t
lemmy.dbzer0.com ,
lemm.ee , or
lemmy.ml
??Welp, this is the thing that got me to get rid of my lemmy.world account and move to lemm.ee. There were other issues I was able to overlook, but I need a community willing to stand up to laws that go against the interests of the people.
