• @joshuaacasey@lemmy.world
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    622 years ago

    This may finally be the thing that kills twitter. I mean. Twitter is the only platform to do something batshit insane like removing a safety feature like blocking. Twitter is about to become downright dangerous for marginalized populations (LGBTQ+, autistic, sex workers…)

    • @vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      162 years ago

      Twitter is about to become downright dangerous for marginalized populations (LGBTQ+, autistic, sex workers…)

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      It always was. Some just thought it was worth it to brave the abuse to get the message out.

    • @TheKaul@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      82 years ago

      That’s what people have been saying about every step of the musk acquisition process and yet still people use Twitter. Thinking back to the Facebook privacy controversy years back, everybody still uses Facebook. There can be an infinite amount of red flags and warnings, but these websites are such a huge part of some people’s lives that none of it matters to them, unfortunately.

      • @432hz@lemmy.world
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        62 years ago

        I don’t know a single person under 20 that uses Facebook. It’s either paid groups or old people.

        • Ser Salty
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          52 years ago

          Facebook has basically become irrelevant for any discourse outside of “the olds are being radicalized by it”

    • @BleatingZombie@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      Will I be safe if I’m two of those things? Like if I’m a cis-het autistic sex-worker, will it be a double negative and cancel out?

      Edit: I was just trying to make a silly joke. I didn’t mean to upset anyone

      • @Ugh@sh.itjust.works
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        22 years ago

        I caught that it was a silly joke and got a little kick out of it. I’m not sure why other people reacted the way they did. Maybe they thought you were mocking or making fun? I dunno.

  • @kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world
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    132 years ago

    You could argue against creating the feature, but once it already exists and it’s not taking up any real processing power or cluttering the interface, why would you ever remove any feature. Does he understand it? No. Do some people use it and find it beneficial? Probably, yeah. Are you forced to use it? No. So what’s the problem?

    It’s like a car manufacturer ordering a recall to remove the the mirror on the passenger side visor because he never uses it. Some people do, my dude, it’s not hurting anything, and it will actually cost you money to remove it instead of leaving it. Just leave it alone, dude.

    Or… he’s not being honest and he wants to remove it because it hurts his ego to know that so many block his account. Yeah, it’s probably that.

    • iquanyin
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      12 years ago

      i’d bet money he takes stimulants. not on which specific one(s) tho.

      • Trebach
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        22 years ago

        He’s rich, so if I had to bet I’d say it’s cocaine.

        • iquanyin
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          12 years ago

          pretty logical guess. wouldn’t surprise me a bit.

  • @EliteCaster@lemmy.world
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    292 years ago

    I think this is what’s gonna finally end it for Twitter. There has already been a huge increase in harassment/hate, and if people can’t block other users spewing that shit, they will actually leave this time

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    Block makes sense. He knows it makes no sense to remove it. Block has existed on the internet long enough to assume this is completely malicious intent.

    Like I flatout refuse to assume he removed a feature used literally everywhere else without ulterior motive. This is just to allow for bad actors to continue to voice themselves without any prevention tools.

    • Nougat
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      132 years ago

      Yeah, it’s literally “You’re going to be forced to consume content you don’t want to” and “People wil now be able to harass you publicly.”

      • DreamySweet
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        02 years ago

        You can mute people you don’t want to see posts from instead.

    • pumpsnabben
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      -82 years ago

      Why isn’t the mute function enough?

      I actually never understood why the block function existed, it clearly told the account you blocked that you have blocked them, prompting them to create an alt.

      Mute is like shadowban, you won’t ever see them and they believe that you can see them.

          • Cryptic Fawn
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            42 years ago

            Because maybe victims don’t want their harassers seeing or interacting with their tweets at all???

            • pumpsnabben
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              -12 years ago

              Why does it matter if a harasser sees your tweets? How can they interact with the tweets when muted?

              • Cryptic Fawn
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                22 years ago

                How can they interact with the tweets when muted?

                By replying, quoting and retweeting. However, if they’re blocked, they can’t do that without putting extra effort (such as making an alt account).

                Why does it matter if a harasser sees your tweets?

                Are you being serious or are you really just that obtuse? It’s so damn painfully obvious you’ve never been seriously harassed on social media.

      • Cryptic Fawn
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        92 years ago

        Blocking stops the assholes from interacting with your own tweets entirely. Sure, they can make an alt to get around that, but that’s more work for them. Blocking is simple and quick.

        Mute was never good enough because it still allowed assholes to interact with your tweets.

        Source: Queer lady that had to block people in order to Twitter to not be trash before Elon bought it.

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            Doesn’t matter if you can’t see it; what matters if if THEY can interact with a tweet. That’s why the block and mute features are different and why block is superior.

            Abusers on Twitter love getting around being muted by interacting with their victims tweets, and finding ways to make their victim see what they’re doing. It’s why the block feature was implemented in the first place.

            Can the abuser find ways around being blocked? Sure, but it requires more work on their part, and most don’t bother going that far. But for their victims, blocking is quick and easy.

            And from reading some of the responses in this thread, it’s obvious to me that some of you never had to deal with being harassed on Twitter; the block feature is absolutely vital. Without it, Twitter is 100% done for. (Though one could argue it’s ruined already, cause Musk, but whatever).

            • pumpsnabben
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              -22 years ago

              Everyone says muted accounts can “interact” with ones tweets but no one can inform me in what way.

              How can muted accounts make so that you see what their doing?

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                How can muted accounts make so that you see what their doing?

                By encouraging fellow trolls/assholes to quote, reply and retweet your tweets so you’re forced to see them. Also, someone that is muted can still personally reply, quote and retweet your tweets as well; you just won’t see it, not unless they find a way around it (as I already described how). Toxic assholes always find away around mute features because it’s garbage and isn’t useful at all.

                If you still can’t figure out why removing the block feature will be devastating for a significant portion of Twitters user-base, than you’re either acting in bad faith, obtuse, or one of the very toxic assholes that will be thrilled to see blocking removed.

                Edit: Oh and one final thing; Lemmy has a block feature. Anymore ridiculous responses from you will result in just that. I can’t take anything you say on this topic seriously anymore.

  • @Kuro@lemm.ee
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    22 years ago

    Even if it really didn’t make sense, wouldn’t it be more sensible to… Idk… Just leave it alone and not spend the time to get rid of it? Lol

  • @Laticauda@lemmy.ca
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    1692 years ago

    “it makes no sense” literally every social media site in existence has the block feature, and the reason is to help people prevent harassment. Elon is like a fucking toddler, it’s obvious he just wants to get rid of blocking because he’s pissy about being blocked by other people.

  • @Kinglink@lemmy.world
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    While removing it is stupid, I also think it’s a limited feature. I am blocked by Jason Schreier like many people in gaming culture are. (I didn’t even comment on his post, but he did a mass block based on who responded to another person’s post because that’s the type of person he is) He’s a relatively famous gaming journalist so when someone links his messages I can’t see them, right?

    Well I can, I just open an incognito window, and I still get to see what ever he’s posting, because when you aren’t logged in you get to see everything.

    So in that way Block doesn’t really make a lot of sense. Limiting who can interact with you might needed, but limiting who can see what you post doesn’t really.

    There is still “Mute” which I use much more often to get rid of “Console war” crap, from my feed, but honestly I also just don’t use “X” Because in general I haven’t found it that useful, and feels like it’s always been a massive time waster. If Elon is making other people realize that now, I’d say he’s doing a great job in waking up people to the fact that it’s always been a pretty shitty social media.

    • Bilb!
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      32 years ago

      I think you have to be logged in to view a person’s feed now though.

      • @Kinglink@lemmy.world
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        Don’t know the rules (They probably keep changing) but you can see it here in incognito mode.

        Even if that was the case, I’d make an alt account no one knows about to be able to look at his tweets if I cared enough. The point I was making it is it’s dumb to “Block what people can see” when they can get around it with a couple button clicks.

        (And to be clear because I’m getting downvoting, I’m not saying blocking is bad, but the implementation is pretty dumb, and at least removing the “You can’t see this message because he blocked you” should be removed.)

  • Dr. Dabbles
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    42 years ago

    How else would a child of apartheid Africa get the apartheid message out to the world in 2023? Of course you have to disable the block feature.

  • voxel
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    i have like 500 people in my Twitter block list :|