The first of the tools Denuvo is offering to Switch developers is Nintendo Switch Emulator Protection, a “revolutionary technology to protect games launching on Nintendo Switch from piracy”.
According to Denuvo, the new tech can be applied to Switch games to block the ability to play them on PC emulators.
“Even if a game is protected against piracy on its PC version, the version released on Nintendo Switch can be emulated from day one and played on PC, therefore bypassing the strong protections offered on the PC version,” the company says. “This can happen with any of the numerous games available on Nintendo Switch.
https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/24/23319847/nintendo-switch-denuvo-drm-anti-cheat-software-emulated-games-pc this news isn’t even new. i figured they’d have at least applied it to a game by now.
And like every other DRM, it’s just going to be something that the people who bought the game and play it unaltered will be forced to deal with in one way or another… while those who modify the game, emulate or pirate it, won’t. I love DRMs. Nothing like feeling like a sucker for actually buying the game and not cracking it.
Like Resident Evil Village before they fixed it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXZGCwAJpbM
It shouldn’t be a problem if it’s properly implemented, but games are so broken these days and take months to fix if lucky that it’s insulting to paying customers. Properly implemented DRM is not a guarantee when games have been unoptimized even without it.
Even perfectly implemented DRM steals cycles that can’t possibly benefit any gamer ever in any way.
At the very least even if it runs beautifully it ends up being an annoyance on Steam Deck and offline play interrupting your game session as though you are the pirate as opposed to an actual customer who paid. While the pirates laugh at the experience you should be getting.
As a Switch owner, fuck this. This is reason enough for me to stop buying games on the Switch and go full piracy/emulation mode. I don’t have any Denuvo games on my PC and I am not having any on my Switch.
It’s going to be cracked within a week
That’s not how it works for most games unless Empress goes at I. U
I hope most developers stay away from Denuvo on Switch. Devs already have to squeeze the thing for every fps they can get out of it, it really doesn’t need anything else bogging it down.
Well they’re a little late at least. All the good games worth getting on the Switch are already out, and it’ll be about a year until Switch 2 will probably be out.
Could be doing this in preparation for the Switch 2.
Given this is Nintendo, I highly doubt this code would be portable to the new console.
Switch 2 should then be a much less of a hit than Switch. Already Steam Deck has proven to be a far better handheld gaming console.
Best way to fight against things like this is with your wallet. Stop buying and supporting games with Denuvo or any other similar DRM.
I buy physical because I don’t trust Nintendo’s online services, but I’m not even going to get physical if it comes with DRM. I’m buying it expressly to dump it and run in an emulator eventually.
Not to mention that the Switch is already showing its age, so any added burden is going to come with noticeably performance loss.
Even if a game is protected against piracy on its PC version, the version released on Nintendo Switch can be emulated from day one and played on PC, therefore bypassing the strong protections offered on the PC version,”
Are there that many multi-platform games that have denuvo and a switch version too?
I’d think most games “big enough” for denuvo wouldn’t have a switch port anyway.
That was my thought. Most games that are on both PC and Switch are not big enough to want to pay Denuvo for their services. Any game that is big enough to care probably also can’t afford to take the Denuvo performance hit (that they claim doesn’t exist) on the under-powered Switch.
There are a surprising amount of pc games on switch. I’m not sure if all these titles have denuvo on PC but as an example.
Dragon Quest 11 Doom Eternal Divinity original sin 2 Disco Elysium Most resident Evil games There are a lot of other games that have a switch port, but I’m too tired to think about it further.
There were a few years back. The Tony Hawk remasters cone to mind
Sonic frontiers and persona 5 royal both have denuvo on PC I think and both are pretty big and great imo.
Surely a 1:1 emulator would just run DRM as expected and it would never know… Feels like it may stop day1 piracy via emulators but anything beyond I’m sure would be patched.
Honestly, I’m not sure. I don’t have a lot of experience with PC gaming (or its related piracy), but there seems to be a lot of drama in the pirate community due to the difficulty in bypassing Denuvo.
In this particular case, a good Switch emulator may be enough to bypass it; but my guess is it’ll be more complicated and resource taxing on the Switch than a simple hardware check.
I hope that the switch version would be easier to bypass as there’s no way they’re going to force you to connect to the internet to verify anything like the do on the PC.
IMO the worst part about Denuvo is that it just ruins any game they add it to by being a massive resource hog.
Yeah, and switch sometimes stutter too already without Denuvo. Games are already being pushed to their limit on the switch just trying to hit 30 fps whole not even targeting 1080p in the more heavy games.
We’ve been down this road before. It just takes a few determined hackers to find a workaround. I can’t wait to see what their solution would be.
The general solution to this problem, is just to remove the DRM, and then run it.
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Yuzu (and Ryukahr) are not 1:1 emulators though, and they aren’t attempting to. Attempting 1:1 emulation of the hardware is only feasible with very old hardware like the NES or whatever, where modern hardware doesn’t have a problem simulating every detail of the CPU. Yuzu doesn’t try to simulate the Tegra SoC that’s in the Switch, I think it works by transpiling game code and hooking into system calls and whatnot, similar to what Proton does on Linux (only probably more complex).
If the Denuvo team studied how these emulators work well, it’s probably very hard to effectively defeat Denuvo DRM in general (as opposed to on a per-game basis).
What I will always find funny is that pirated and cracked games run better than the actual ones with Denovo.
Welp, I guess we’re going to be getting a DRM-breaking emulator accompanied by some weird new rant by Empress.
it would be preferable to have someone other than her cracking denuvo lol
No one else is batshit insane enough to wanna warp their minds working with this garbage. She is already warped, so it doesn’t affect her. Much.
personally I think that theres loads of people with the skillset to do it, but they all have nice jobs in cybersecurity instead of cracking video games.
Was she the one who released an nfo where she went off on a random insane rant against trans people?
yes
And yet my friends wonder why I play ancient games and indie games. Less shit I have to out go with
How is this going to affect battery life? Some of us don’t have the switch connected to power 24/7. Sounds like a bad idea for an underpowered handheld device.
It’ll probably rely on offline checks
Will be equivalent to steamdrm, uplay, etc
Fuck Nintendo, Fuck Denuvo, Fuck everyone
Well, shit, sorry Switch gamers, you’re going to have to put up with this steaming pile of shit us PC gamers had to do as well.
Yep, except you can take the FPS hit on PC.
