These posts are exhaustingly far from the reality of the situation. Please don’t make the fediverse kick the puppy that is your optimistic opinion, OP.
Edit: OP downvoted everyone who disagreed with him.
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https://www.statista.com/statistics/443332/reddit-monthly-visitors/
Their traffic is unaffected. Reddit has never been part of the public conversation, outside of its reused content on blogs and autogenerated YouTube content. It has never had cultural relevance due to its conspicuously self contained nature, despite its size. Shops have closed but are reopening and profits are consistent(ly absent) month to month, the exodus affected little. If I were to amend your title, it would read “Reddit has always been a dying mall.”
You’ve described the situation as dramatically as possible to the crowd most excited to hear it and I’m just tired of hearing “Reddit is dying.” It is exhausting. The article is a great summary of everything I hate about Reddit because it is intended to be.
Reddit has definitely had cultural significance. That’s why AMAs used to happen there so often and it was in the news for months after the Boston Bomber. It’s like 4chan in that it seems super niche but it pops up every now and then in the cultural zeitgeist, sometimes for bad reasons like The Donald leading the charge for a Trump presidency and sometimes for good reasons like the niche hobby subs.
Edit: OP downvoted everyone who disagreed with him.
Sigh. Please OP, we’re not doing that here. Downvotes should be reserved for trolls and the counterproductive. This comment with its snappy “kick the puppy that is your opinion” is not the most productive, but there are downvotes from OP on way more innocuous things, even one comment that agrees reddit is dying but in a different way than the linked article envisions.
Please leave that behavior on reddit.
How do you know what did they vote on?
Dunno about over on lemmy, but on kbin we have an “activity” link on each comment exposing all voters.
Oh wow! Do you also see Lemmy users there?
Vote federation can be a little wonky, but generally, yeah.
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This post is a total shitshow. I get the sentiment, and to some amount agree. But who the fuck wrote this drivel? its the worst shit I’ve read in seconds on the internet, and that usually takes hours.
Self Aggrandizing Self Posters… GFY
Weird, I thought it was a well written article.
Thanks lol
Maybe an AI wrote it. 🥸
Look at fancy pants over here reading the actual article we’re talking about
No, it isn’t.
I’ve come up with the following rules for my own relationship with Reddit.
- I will avoid posting on Reddit.
- If I do post on Reddit, I must make a similar post on another forum, maybe Lemmy, maybe somewhere else.
Number 2 is important because it helps other small communities grow.
It’s not a problem if a lot of people post on one forum, but it is a problem if a lot of people post only on one forum. I wont allow myself to post only on Reddit.
That said, I haven’t posted on Reddit since June.
Deleted my 10 year account a few months ago. Haven’t looked back. Once in a while my google searches will point me to some reddit thread, and I’ll check it out, but I have logged in for the last time.
Same story here. Soon as they fucked around with Apollo I grabbed my towel and haven’t looked back. At this point my only interest is morbid curiosity about how bad it’ll get.
My rule is “don’t post on Reddit unless it’s giving a reason to delete it”
Small communities that are interoperable” is basically what Reddit is now.
Which is EXACTLY why federation fits the reddit style of forum like a glove, and why ultimately Lemmy is the path forward.
I’m also on Mastodon, and saw posts saying “you can follow Lemmy communities from Mastodon!” - and sure enough you can, but by god you shouldn’t unless you want your feed to be full of comments without context.
Yeah it’s kinda weird that from mastodon it boosts all the comments instead of just the posts. You can tap into the posts to see the comments anyways, can’t you?
It makes sense when you understand what the activitypub actually is and how its objects interact.
This is the problem I’m having now and I don’t know how to go back.
💯
@JustinHanagan@kbin.social i think you might have the meaning of “Luddite” backwards https://thenib.com/im-a-luddite/
Why post an article from two months ago about a thing we’ve all accepted? I started reading and wondered what new drama occurred on that dying platform. Then it mentioned APIs and I checked the date. June. We’re almost in September. Eternal September.
We need an article summary bot up in here man. I got walled off after a few paragraphs and it wanted my email to store in their database😅
Reading mode defeats that a lot of the time if your browser supports it
Use my email:
😂 thanks for the chuckle
Can’t we just use the one we had on reddit? Just change the API calls from Reddit to Lemmy.
I started a new job a few months ago and was on my first business trip with four colleagues recently. To make conversation I asked if anyone used Reddit.
• Two dudes had heard of it but never used it.
• One dude said he uses it infrequently because it’s turned to shit.
• One dude said fuck Reddit and it’s API bullshit.
• I said fuck Reddit and it’s API bullshit.
Thats my anecdote. 100% of the people in that car didn’t use Reddit or now hated it. Probably 3 months ago that same car ride would have had three people loving Reddit and advocating it to the other two.
To make conversation I asked if anyone used Reddit.
You mean you asked “When does the Narwhal bacon?”, right?
Do you have stairs in your house?
I think that was before my time
Despite your experience it’s alive and well. If reddit is a dying mall what is Lemmy? To scale it’s like an unmaintained Porta potty.
I hate reddit, but let’s not be ridiculous. It’s more than fine. Google has really gone to shit. When people search for things they put in site=reddit as a more reliable way to find real information.
Malls didn’t die overnight, you know. It’s a downward spiral that takes many years when it starts.
Is there a downward spiral, though? Or did they just get rid of a bunch of (from their perpective) whiny, entitled, free riding, old-timers?
Have you been there lately? The content is garbage. It’s just barely relevant reposts and dying communities with nothing but anger threads.
Hasn’t r/all always been like that? The subreddits that are more niche have stayed mostly the same in my experience.
Lol what are these anger threads like?
Every reddit thread is an anger thread. It’s just bots and the average idiot yelling at each other over nonsense and reposting the same tired joke from a decade ago.
Yes. I was there just minutes ago, in the live threads for Formula 1 qualifying. All good, interesting opinions, and relevant links posted. No complaints.
Reddit is fine if you only look at user numbers.
If you consider things like overall satisfaction with the site and profitability though, they are in trouble. That’s why they are introducing that embarrassing crypto shit, they are desperate to somehow monetize the site.
This shit is from June lol
It’s really unattractive to be so obsessed with your ex months after getting into a new relationship with Lemmy. Can we move on please?
I was about to make a joke related to ex’s… then I saw your post. Thank you for saving me a couple braincells from frying themselves out.
To be fair Lemmy feels like a brand new mall of stores with empty shelves.
It’s always sad when you go to a community for something you like, something that’s widely popular, and see the newest post is 2 days old.
Or it’s really a month old and it’s only maybe got about two responses. Makes me sigh sometimes and a little defeated in the idea of the fediverse but we’re all shoved into this position because the other platforms have sucked so much to have us here.
Pretty sure reddit was full of laments about Digg when that mass exodus happened. Stuff takes a while to build momentum.
Indeed. 90-9-1: 90% of the population lurk, 9% engage and 1% contribute. Source
Especially when you’re the only one posting. At some point, it feels a little like you’re spamming the sub, even if you are the only one keeping it active.
But when nobody comments on your submissions, is it even “kept active”? :/
Reddit is gentrification as a website
Lemmy is restoration
And all the customers do nothing but scream about politics in every section.
Scream about the old mall*
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The “mall” analogy works for Reddit because the point of it existing is to buy things there. Lemmy instances and communities only exist because people want to make space for conversation. If spaces are empty, I see that as a sign that someone, somewhere cares so much that they will happy build the space and wait for others to arrive.
A lot of empty stores, and then the big anchor stores are full of depressing doomer news articles
And memes
Don’t look in the changing rooms, they are all full of furries
Well now I want to look
Lol I forgot about those, I banned as many as I could.
Don’t forget the hexbears:
“You’re all warmongering fascists except Putin!!!”
I try not to label an entire instance, that’s like labeling an entire race, it’s not a healthy way to think about life.
Yes because fediverse instance is something intrinsic like skin colour
Yes because all analogies necessarily represent a 1:1 ratio of severity or scope 👍
Parent comment was pointing out that you pick what instance you use and there are a lot to choose from, so they tend to be fairly homogenous in views (exception being the largest few)
That’s the store that sells shoe polish.
I think there band I haven’t seen any thing from them this weekend
Don’t. Don’t give me hope.
We trying boii
And it’s like we have the inventory but nobody feels like stocking the shelves.
Hard truth? Reddit conditioned me to NOT participate.
Nearly time I wanted to discuss something or ask something important to me, my posts were deleted by mods. The few times posts would stay was because they were meme shitposts of easily digestible image content: scroll and move along. Any actual discussion was verboten.
/r/mk mods were particularly awful. Fuck those guys.
Marked as a duplicate, removed.
My least favorite part of Stack Overflow.
The thing you must understand about /r/mk is that it was largely sheperded by a man who was driven from the other major mechanical keyboard forums for being too much of a self-promoter. It’s possible the entire organization still has residual brittle-ego.
If you want proper keyboard discussion, do check Deskthority; the content is a lot richer than “here’s a photo of my board which is just a Taco Bell permutation of the current popular PCB/case/caps/switches”
I never knew that! Thanks for sharing!
I hear you there. The last full time involvement of participating on Reddit for me was like a couple months ago. I couldn’t complain about my job anymore, like everyone else that normally complains about their jobs, without getting downvoted to oblivion over it. Why? Because “dats what reddit does!” is pretty much the only logic that it can boil down to when it comes to Reddit - it’s because that’s their bastardized logic and they happily carry it out. Just so anybody they don’t like, is discouraged from participating.
Everyone turns everything into an unnecessary debate because people want to sound smarter than they really are.
Lemmy doesn’t have the inventory. The userbase is tiny.
Small communities are the best communities
Not when there is no content to read through.
The userbase is significantly bigger than some fairly decent forums that I use or used to visit. The problem is rather the behaviour of the users (reddit started to favour more Instagram-like behaviour of scrolling and “liking” rather than normal forum-like dialogue, especially when you look at r/all, and I think we’re yet to grow out of it fully), and their relatively narrow range of interests (tech + political news) that leaves the other areas empty.
The user base of Lemmy may be bigger, but we don’t all share the same interest(s) the way people grouped on a specific forum would which does hinder it a bit.
I know it’s bad when the front page is majority popular posts from the last 10 years and nothing new
But really, where else can you go to read a bunch of eight year old tweets?
Tumblr. Also, 8 year old Reddit posts… You can actually find anything old in Tumblr… and vampire role play.
Another article that’s overly sympathetic to the mods. Reddit has been bad for years, not now just suddenly with the API changes when the bulk of you finally realized. The mods were horrible and HUGE part of the problem, to the point I think the mods (and other users) being so upset is hilarious. The API changes were a bad move, but they were just the latest in a years long string of nothing BUT bad moves. You guys are way late to the party and congratulating yourselves for being so punctual. Now the standard moving on from your ex joke and my comment is finished.
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Let’s be honest, if it wasn’t for mods Reddit would be 4chan. I’m also not sure Lemmy solves your problem as it has basically the same system.
I don’t agree at all. Mods are good at self-aggrandizing…but I remember reddit before it was chock full o power mods and it wasn’t really like that. Also I’ve been a mod and there wasn’t that much objectionable content that needed to be removed. Seems like being a mod these days is setting up a bot, doing nothing, then complaining about how hard your “job” is. Oh, also making sure no posts that disagree with your personal politics are allowed to stay up.
