• @rikonium@discuss.tchncs.de
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    112 years ago

    This I wish, but I doubt. I still have my old Garmin GPS and play with the idea of a flip phone but I’ve been spoiled by the smaller things like iMessage not dealing with MMS. It’s an idea I come back to occasionally, but I also think about going back to my Palm with AAA batteries for my PIM needs. Had one in semi-regular-use as recent as 2018!

    • blivet
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      I used to have an orange Handspring Visor PIM, which ran the Palm OS. If I’m remembering correctly the original team that developed the Palm Pilot left to start Handspring. My friend topped me by buying the phone module for hers. It seemed excitingly futuristic at the time.

  • regalia
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    122 years ago

    These articles of “Gen Z is doing X” is always wrong lol.

  • 𞋴𝛂𝛋𝛆
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    182 years ago

    If I was not disabled with way too much time to burn, and where the weight of a phone is ideal, I would go back to a dumb flip phone like this. Smart phones are an addiction that, at best, must be consciously managed. Heck, I’m beside my workstation procrastinating right now.

    • @Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works
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      72 years ago

      It’s after 1AM and I’m meant to be sleeping…what the heck am I doing? I’ll put the phone down now, just after I post this comment and maybe just refresh my front page one more time.

  • The Barto
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    52 years ago

    and the numbers don’t lie.

    Righto Scott Steiner.

  • Franzia
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    32 years ago

    I want an Android phone with a full physical keyboard, blackberry style. Not sure if I want to ‘digital detox’ but I don’t value a lot of what our common phone design has to offer.

  • EnderWi99in
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    This is a thing that isn’t happening, at least not among Gen Z. What a bullshit article.

    • at_an_angle
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      62 years ago

      As a millennial, the thought of ditching my smartphone is a thought that keeps coming up.

      • OrgunDonor
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        Eh, I don’t like the idea of getting rid of my smart phone. But I did get rid of all the shit I didnt actually like. I use my phone for Music, maps, the camera, messaging a few people, and a few other things. I got rid of all the crap social media, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, even reddit(and have not put a lemmy/kbin app on there to replace it), there is not shit mobile games installed. Just does what I need it to do, and doesnt constantly bug me about Person X and what they had for lunch.

        However, if I ditched the smart phone, I would need a phone still, but then I still need the MP3 player, a camera. And I would much rather have 1 bit of kit that does all that well, than 3 items.

      • BetterNotBigger
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        72 years ago

        I did it for 3 months. I really enjoyed my time doing it and learned a lot about my usage. It was a cheap $50 experiment. After I went back to my smartphone, I uninstalled ALL social media apps. Turned off ALL notifications but left calls and messages as an exception. My smartphone is now essentially a feature phone. It’s not 100% the same since the big screen does lure you in to use it but my usage is still way down and because I don’t have any social media there’s no reason for me to be on my phone around other people. I wholeheartedly recommend trying it for those curious.

        • @severien@lemmy.world
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          That reminded me how a local wanna-be influencer did a smartphone detox for a week, immediately after the completion she posted an FB story: Part 1 - Reflection, how eyeopening the experience was, how much time she suddenly had for the things that truly matter etc. Subscribe to not miss the Part 2!

    • BetterNotBigger
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      52 years ago

      I did it for a few months and really enjoyed it. At the end of 3 months, I realized I could achieve nearly the same thing by turning off all notifications except messages and calls and uninstalling all social media. I realized… if I have the willpower to use a dumbphone I have the willpower to keep the distraction off my smartphone. Phone usage is now 100% intentional with the right setup.

  • PierreKanazawa
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    122 years ago

    If only that’s allowed as a choice.

    So many places assume you have a smartphone, and so many stuffs require one

  • @coffinwood@feddit.de
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    2932 years ago

    No they don’t. What a rubbish clickbait article.

    All they say is that there’s a (niche) trend of a few people using feature phones with expected combined sales of $2.8 million. Versus the $200 billions of iPhones alone.

    • @generalpotato@lemmy.world
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      32 years ago

      Thanks. Exactly what I thought.

      “tHe NuMbErS doN’t LiE”

      “Numbers” are some paltry bs that are “expected to grow in 2023” like BTC was “expected to hit a $100k in 2020”.

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      I mean, the title is clickbaity, but what title isn’t at this point? The actual point of the article is just that there is a small but growing niche of younger people switching to feature phones. I think that’s neat, and I’m starting to consider a feature phone for my next phone myself.

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        Just because a lot of stuff is shitty doesn’t mean we should just a accept when things are shitty.

        • ZephrC
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          Yes, and pointing out that the title is clickbait is fine, but the entire post seems to be a disagreement with an article that agrees with the commenter. That seems to me to be a very unhealthy way of approaching the problem of clickbait titles.

          Edit: I realized you’re not the original person I replied to.

    • Bonehead
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      They weren’t entirely wrong. The numbers don’t lie. They just don’t say what the author claims it does.

      • @coffinwood@feddit.de
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        442 years ago

        It’s directly in the headline: Gen Z is ditching the iPhone. That’s incorrect in two ways: A) it’s at best one in fifty people buying aforementioned feature phones and B) they don’t even know if all buyers replace their existing phone or buy it as an additional handset.

        • guyrocket
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          102 years ago

          I have both a smartphone and a flip phone.

          I kept both because the flip phone lets me make phone calls from my basement and many other places that the smartphone cannot.

          I have never met anyone else with this setup.

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              Yes, I could. But that allows the phone company to be lazy about coverage and building their network. The primary reason I pay a monthly cell phone bill is for a good network.

              It also gets into security issues that are different from cellular network use.

              And what if my internet is down and I have an emergency?

              • AggressivelyPassive
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                22 years ago

                How often do you have an emergency that combines lost wifi and inability to leave the basement?

                • guyrocket
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                  The older I get the more possible that becomes. I am not 20 and bulletproof any more.

          • @severien@lemmy.world
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            72 years ago

            the flip phone lets me make phone calls from my basement and many other places that the smartphone cannot.

            Why? The smartphone supports everything the flip phone does. Honest question.

              • @severien@lemmy.world
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                Doesn’t seem very likely to me given that cheap feature phones likely use cheap older parts while flagship smartphones state of the art components.

                • Owl
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                  41 year ago

                  He didn’t say his flip phone was cheap

        • @ChrisLicht@lemm.ee
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          42 years ago

          I had a biz partner who is a centimillionaire. He has an iPhone for data, and a flip-phone for calls.

          • guyrocket
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            32 years ago

            I will now tell people I have a millionaire’s phone plan.

    • VanillaGorilla
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      32 years ago

      That’s still more than I expected. But it doesn’t look like the dramatic turn of tides.

      • @coffinwood@feddit.de
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        162 years ago

        I think it’s a fad. The moment you need a certain app or feature these feature (-less) phones become frustrating quickly.

        Take the idea of taking a break from your smartphone on a vacation. You end up without a camera, without a map, without public transport apps, contact-free payment, etc.

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          -22 years ago

          I think you’d be surprised how easy it is to live without any of those things, even in the modern world. Also, feature phones have cameras and some basic apps. They’re not actually 80s cordless phones.

          • @lolcatnip@reddthat.com
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            82 years ago

            I wouldn’t be, because smart phones didn’t exist until I was in my 30s. No fucking way am I going back to paper maps and texting only through SMS with T9.

            • ZephrC
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              32 years ago

              Okay. I’m not saying everyone should get a feature phone. I like paper maps though, and hate T9 less than I hate touchscreen keyboards.

          • @coffinwood@feddit.de
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            22 years ago

            Also, feature phones have cameras

            I know the camera quality of this device category. They’re all crap, no exception. And even if you buy the best of the best it will cost you as much as a sophisticated smartphone that does everything better apart from maybe stand-by battery. Which is fine for an emergencyphone.

            and some basic apps.

            Mostly preinstalled because no app store, non-removable, and you never have to worry about missed updates because you won’t get any.

            They’re not actually 80s cordless phones.

            Agree, because they’re 2003 cordless phones and they suck for the everyday life of most people.

            • ZephrC
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              32 years ago

              Okay. I didn’t say they’re good for most people. I don’t think they are. The cameras are good enough for me and the preinstalled apps usually include all the things I care about.

              Also, why would I care about updates? Am I supposed to be afraid someone might hack my phone to steal my call history or something? The whole point is that it isn’t being used to log into every service on the face of the Earth.

              Again, I’m not advocating for everyone to get a feature phone. I just think they do most of the things I use my phone for, and it would be pretty easy to just not do the rest. The fact that it’s not what most people want is not the same thing as it being terrible.