Yes, you’re looking at ~92% tax right there. Final price jumped from ~113 dollars (584BRL) to ~220 dollars.
EDIT: A bit of clarification, when buying from abroad there’s a flat 60% federal tax if the thing + shipping price surpasses 50 dollars. Then there’s a state tax that can vary between 17-25%, which goes on top of the total taxed value. Part of the tax is literally “tax of a tax”
Aparentemente aumentou de novo e em abril/2025 vai passar de 100%. Alguém sabe se procede essa informação?
O aumento é do ICMS dos estados, o que de fato vai fazer chegar nos 100%.
100 + 60% (federal) = 160 160 + 17% (icms atual) = 187,2 160 + 25% (icms novo) = 200Pelo visto o único consumo interno que vai “ajudar” é de roupa, porque eletronicos tudo vem de fora
Is that some sort of import tax or an absolutely insane sales tax?
Federal import tax, plus state tax based on the total value with the federal tax
Both taxes are also applied on product price+shipping. So it would be a state 17~18% tax on top of a 60% federal tax on product+shipping+ 15 BRL delivery fee.
Por algum motivo o Brazil tem impostos disparatados sobre componentes electrónicos… não me parece que isso esteja propriamente a desenvolver a indústria local
O governo atual diz ter planos para começar a fabricar chips de processadores aqui. Entre isso e de fato começar a produção, podemos esperar pelo menos 6 anos (realisticamente, mais de 10).
Vale notar, esse imposto da tela é simplesmente por importação como pessoa física. 60% de imposto federal sobre o valor do produto e frete, depois tem outro imposto de cerca de 20% sobre o valor taxado anterior. Então a conta é
(100 + 60%) + 20% = 190PS: marcar o idioma do post como “português” simplesmente trava e não vai. Deve ter algum bug no lemmy quanto a isso
Isso já tinha supostamente o governo quando começou o imposto ha ja algum tempo atrás, que supostamente ja tem uns anos
You must thank to the new president and his policy of spend money as were no tomorrow and create ministries and secretaries for other parties in order to approve laws. Ah ask to DiCaprio and Greta if this is good for them, bacause they supported this candidate, and the environment got no improvement so far
Bolsonarista bom é bolsonarista mºrto.
Onde eu mencionei o nome do bozo? Olha aí quem prega a morte dos outros, aí acusam o Bozo de genocida, belo exemplo de amor seu militonto
Otário feito você não tem voz.
E vc tem, faz o L baby
Have those tariffs been successful at building a domestic source for these kinds of things?
Not even close.
I was part of a Reddit gift exchange ages ago, before they separated domestic from international. I had to ship a $30 coffee mug to Brazil and it cost $220. Oof.
Tell them to mark it as a gift, works around here 🤷.
Doesn’t work in Brazil. Gifts cannot be sent from a business to a person, and even then there’s a 50 USD limit.
You tell him to send it as a person 🤷.
What I’ve found out over the years is that Chinese will agree to almost anything to make a sale 😂.
And you can always claim engineering samples if it’s a gift from a company 😉.
i’m afraid they make no such exceptions here.
and its being taxed directly at the platform, so no chance of asking them to claim a lower price like we used to do before. we have to find another way.
Tell them to write it off as engineering samples 🤷. That’s the only thing that comes to mind…
Maybe if you write what tax deductions you have on import, I might have better ideas 😉.
My Pine64 order wasn’t marked as a gift, and it turned up at my door completely untaxed 😳
Hows the pinephone working for you?
Ohhh it wasn’t a Pinephone I ordered, it was a Pinecil v2 and a bunch of accessories and stuff for it. Sorry I should have been clearer lol.
The pinecil is absolutely amazing so far, however the included stock tip is pretty rubbish, doesn’t distribute heat too well. The optional extra ones are much better. The whole thing is deceptively small, I thought it was going to be much larger!
Nah you are good, it was me that assumed. I’m glad to hear it is amazing! I’ve been wanted to get a pinecil too. Good to know the optional tips are worth it!
Have you tried this trick before?
Customs officers hate him because of this one weird trick!
They do, they really do 😂. There is this one gal, Melanie, she calls me personally to ask me “how long do you plan on doing this 😒… eventually you’re gonna get caught 😒” 🤣🤣🤣. I just say “I have no idea what you’re talking about, I just have a lot of relatives in wherever” 🤣🤣🤣.
This used to work in Europe for a very long time, only recently they clamped down on it and asked to declare the value on gifts too
Yep, works on the Balkans 👍.
They can’t charge you for anything, since they’d have to check if it’s really a gift or not, and they’d rather sit on their asses than do that 😂.
When the impostos is sus
Hey, free shipping.
grátis.
De graça
And they don’t even get to speak Brazilian. They have to speak Portuguese.
And I would not want to deal with the waxing, either.
Fuck Haddad, this fucking neolib. He has NO place in a supposedly “”“leftist”“” government.
I’m curious – strong protectionism is usually associated with far-left pro-labor government. Free market economics and low tariffs (here in North America, policies like NAFTA for example) are more associated with centrist neoliberalism.
What makes you suggest that high import taxes are a neoliberal policy?
Haddad is continuing the very same policy of the two previous far-right governments. This is not protectionism, its a very aggressive “debt ceiling” designed to divest from public services in favor of private ones. Meaning he also has to tax the shit out of poor people to make it happen. He also struck a deal with the borgeois resellers to make their shitty chinese imports more attractive.
Hes also facilitating private businesses to take over prisions, healthcare, etc, just like in the US.
Lula’s goverment is NOT far-left by FAR despite his or bolsonarists clams. He’s problably more akin to Biden than any far left govmt nowadays.
Idk why you are down voted. He made deals with famous websites/sellers, PPPs. And Lula’s government never was far left. Lula always tried to satisfy both parties. He does politics very well in that sense, better than any other president. That’s where’s Haddad’s enters with recent programs. Who benefited the most from the car discount? Cars up to 120k. The max property value of housing program went from 200k to 400k. Why the government is giving subsidy to people in the middle/upper class?
laughs in Argentina
It can always be worse
Dude, Argentina recently updated this from 100% tax to 155%. We literally pay more to the government than the full price. And this is for every purchase, no matter the amount. Be thankful that your shitty politicians are less shitty than ours, you could be worse.
…I’m sure that dude that just got in charge will sort it out soon shudders
lol, I genuinely don’t know if this is advanced sarcasm, good one
That is insane
“Be happy about your horrible situation because there are more horrible situations out there” is such a shitty take.
Basically you’re saying “unless you’re the single most unfortunate person on the planet, maybe even throughout all of human history, you should be happy”, which is obviously nonsense.
Be thankful and be happy are different things. “Wow, I’m thankful I’m not that fucked up like the guy over there. I should take steps to totally get away from the path that leads to that place.”
It’s like looking your future self in a mirror, you still can do something to get away from that bad omen.
Well said, he literally misquoted you to get upset about nothing. Hope things get better for you guys over there.
Fallacy of relative privation (informal fallacy) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies
On the other hand, in the USA I bought a MikroTik CRS312 12-port 10Gbps network switch from a Latvian online store (Getic) for ~$500 plus $20 shipping, and didn’t have to pay any import duties/taxes because it’s under the $800/day duty-free limit. Way cheaper than buying it in the USA, where the same item is commonly $600 + taxes.
Australia is similar and has a $1000 duty-free limit, however online stores that have a lot of Australian customers do need to charge Australia sales tax (GST) of 10%. It can still end up cheaper, so there’s still a lot of grey imports in Australia (which is where you buy products that are available in Australia from an online store in a different country because it’s cheaper).
Graças a Deus comprei meu RPi 4b na pandemia. Paguei só os 600 com case, cartão de memória 64gb, fonte e cabo HDMI.
