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SpectreM to Comics@lemmy.ml • 4 months ago

The Zionist logic

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The Zionist logic

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SpectreM to Comics@lemmy.ml • 4 months ago
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  • @HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml
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    4 months ago

    Additional reminder that Hitler’s invasion of Europe was tolerated by the major powers riiiiight up until he invaded one of the “countries that actually matter”.

    Additional additional reminder that the major powers initially PRAISED Hitler for killing all the communists.

    • sunzu2
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      -26•4 months ago

      How is this different from invasion of Ukraine 2014?

      Well Ukraine deserved it because “Nazis”

      • @PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml
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        Yes just as every other nazi country deserves it (and it was in 2022). Too bad it couldn’t be done by communists, but somebody worked very hard to destroy the socialist state, the same somebody who promoted nazis in Ukraine. And the same somebody mentioned by @HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml. The same which was imitated in racist, expansionists, genocidal doctrines by nazi Germany. So many coincidences here…

        • sunzu2
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          -3•4 months ago

          (and it was in 2022).

          2014 is when Ukraine got invaded but this comment kinda proves my point lol

          • @Grapho@lemmy.ml
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            Indeed, 2014 is when the US invaded Ukraine and did as it always does and looked for the biggest Nazis they could find (Sbovoda in this case) to bankroll them

            • sunzu2
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              0•4 months ago

              A factually incorrect statement. Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014.

              • @Grapho@lemmy.ml
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                https://www.cato.org/commentary/washington-helped-trigger-ukraine-war even the Cato institute acknowledges the US was responsible for instigating the conflict.

                They stop just short of saying the US financed the coup of Yanukovich, but if you read the sources that’s the only way to interpret it.

                • sunzu2
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                  even the Cato institute acknowledges the US was responsible for instigating the conflict.

                  Am supposed to trust owner class funded rag on this issue?

                  Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014. Saying that US is responsible for the war is disingenuous. 2022 invasion clearly exposed Russian geopolitical posture vis-a-vis Ukraine.

                  Only brain dead propagandist and poorly educated plebs still larping these clown theories. Tim Pool was confirmed paid by Russia for spreading this trash lol

                  • @Grapho@lemmy.ml
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                    If a CIA front is going “the CIA did this bad shit” then, yeah, you’re supposed to take it at face value. It serves no purpose for them to lie about it. Who gives a fuck about Tim Pool? Check what Jeffrey Sacks has to say about it, what Ben Norton and Alan MacLeod have reported.

                    Gringos suddenly mistrust US capitalist rags when they say uncomfortable stuff about the US but wholeheartedly buy whatever they say about Russia or China and whatever country isn’t full of whites.

              • @davel@lemmy.ml
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                After the 2014 US-backed coup, several eastern Ukrainian provinces declared independence from the Ukrainian state, which they saw as illegitimate, including Crimea. Crimea wasn’t invaded by Russia, it invited Russia. Which seems to have been the right move, in retrospect, because Crimea didn’t suffer almost a decade of fascist paramilitary attacks like their neighbors to the north.

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                  Imagine Putin put congressmen in Canada to take pictures with anti-Trudeau protesters who then forced him out, and were replaced with a French Canadian guy who was talking about how the English speakers are filthy infiltrators or some shit like that, and then they started talking about joining a Russian, explicitly anti-US coallition and putting nukes in the border.

                  Ontario and Vancouver would probably declare him illegitimate and secede immediately and they’d be correct to do so. Look at what Ukraine did to Donbas for 6 years, and how their Nazis had pogroms of romani people with full impunity, look at how they talked about ethnic Russians.

                  Fascists (and especially the US) love nothing more than throwing stones and hiding the hand and dumbass libs eat it up.

                • @DicJacobus@lemmy.world
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                  Screaming about a US backed coup does nothing but illustrate yourself as a brainless parrot of internet propaganda. No one who ever says these things ever considered the fact that the ukrainian people were furious with the hopelessly corrupt ukrainian government that was at the time, a Russian mafia puppet.

                  But as soon as the Ukrainians kick out the mafia. And the Russians cry about it. Suddenly it’s a US Nazi coup. Do you even listen to yourself

                  • @davel@lemmy.ml
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                    Anyone who’s actually been paying attention knows it was a coup backed by the US and perpetrated by Ukrainian Banderite fascists.

                    • Reuters, 2014: Leaked audio reveals embarrassing U.S. exchange on Ukraine, EU
                    • Leaked recording between Nuland and Pyatt: audio | transcript
                    • Counterpunch, 2014: US Imperialism and the Ukraine Coup
                    • BBC, 2014: Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict
                    • Human Rights Watch, 2014: Ukraine: Unguided Rockets Killing Civilians
                    • Consortium News, 2015: The Mess That Nuland Made Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland engineered Ukraine’s regime change without weighing the likely consequences.
                    • The Hill, 2017: The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda
                    • The Guardian, 2017: ‘I want to bring up a warrior’: Ukraine’s far-right children’s camp – video
                    • WaPo, 2018: The war in Ukraine is more devastating than you know
                    • Reuters, 2018: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
                    • The Nation, 2019: Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine
                    • openDemocracy, 2019: Why Ukraine’s new language law will have long-term consequences
                    • Al Jazeera, 2022: Why did Ukraine suspend 11 ‘pro-Russia’ parties?
                    • Jacobin, 2022: A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War
                    • Consortium News, 2023: The West’s Sabotage of Peace in Ukraine Former Israeli Prime Minister Bennett’s recent comments about getting his mediation efforts squashed in the early days of the war adds more to the growing pile of evidence that Western powers are intent on regime change in Russia.
                    • NYT, 2024: U.N. Court to Rule on Whether Ukraine Committed Genocide

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    • 1ostA5tro6yne
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      31•4 months ago

      additional reminder that when the allies liberated the concentration camps, they put everyone with a pink triangle back.

    • @foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev
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      removed by mod

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