• Cowbee [he/they]
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    1213 days ago

    In trying to point out an error, you make a far larger one: by failing to account for the very real quantitative and qualitative differences, you equate the two, and erase the real fact that Israel is commiting genocide in much the same way as the US does with indigenous Americans, to fuel settler-colonialism. The violence reflected by Palestinians towards Israelis has origin in the genocide perpetuated by the state of Israel. Regardless of the pain some settlers may be feeling for having this violence returned, the origin is from the settlers and the only way out for Palestinians has proven to be violence against their oppressors.

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      the only way out for Palestinians has proven to be violence against their oppressors.

      Bullshit.

      In an effort to acknowledge a continued commitment to the Palestinian cause on the part of the Saudi leadership, Saudi Arabia and the United States sought concessions from Israel on issues related to the Palestinians in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. As the possibility of an imminent deal gained plausibility in August–September, the Palestinian Authority also became involved in discussions with Saudi Arabia and the United States in an effort to gain sway over the deal’s final shape. But concerns remained that the Palestinians’ grievances in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict would remain unresolved and that they would lose a key point of leverage if Saudi Arabia normalized ties with Israel. On October 7, Hamas orchestrated a devastating assault on Israel in part to disrupt the deal from taking place.

      https://www.britannica.com/topic/Israeli-Saudi-peace-deal

      • Cowbee [he/they]
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        513 days ago

        Wow, who would have guessed that a “peace deal” solidifying an alliance between pro-genocide states to cement the status quo of settler-colonialism would be opposed by the subjects of genocide for a century? Peace was already tried and yet it doesn’t work, Israel cannot continue its existence as a state without genocide and settler-colonialism of Palestine.

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          Israel cannot continue its existence as a state without genocide and settler-colonialism of Palestine.

          So, if peace is not an option. What kind of resolution are you looking for then?

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            513 days ago

            Victory to the National Liberation movements within Palestine and the dissolution of the fascist Israeli settler-colony, replaced by a single secular Palestinian State, the solution most recommended by the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine.

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        1113 days ago

        Likely never, instead I will continue to side with and advocate for decolonization and land-back.

        • Yes but decolonisation includes you leaving native land ie literally all of North America. You can’t advocate for decolonisation and expect to stay. You are a coloniser. As are the Israelis, as were the Palestinians and the British and ottomans and the Arabs, and the Romans and the Israelites before them. None of these people were ever indigenous to the area so “decolonisation” isn’t a valid argument especially when you yourself are not prepared to decolonise native land and go back to Europe (not that we’d take you back).

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            713 days ago

            Not necessarily, as Fanon puts it “The first will be last, and the last will be first.” This doesn’t mean every white person must be exterminated or sent back to Europe, it means Indigenous Peoples must be at the forefront and allowed to redraw national lines as they see fit. The same is advocated for by Palestinian groups seeking the One State Solution.

            I think you’d do well to read decolonial theory like The Wretched of the Earth, especially as a European.