• ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝
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    -513 days ago

    You’ve never heard of the Warsaw ghetto uprising?

    Warsaw is not located in Germany. Warsaw is in Poland. Killing invaders is okay. If Warsaw Jews went into Germany, and started rounding up and killing German civilians - like the Soviets did, that would have not been okay. If they went into Germany in retaliation and killed combatants until Germany capitulated, that is also okay.

    Least incoherent genocide apologist.

    What’s your argument? I never said that Israel’s genocide, or their apartheid policies, or their settler colonialism is justified.

    By the way, I did go and look up the Hamas charter, and found this that changed my opinion.

    In May 2017 Palestinian political and military organization Hamas unveiled A Document of General Principles and Policies … accepted the idea of a Palestinian state within the 1967 borders … at the same time this document strove for the “complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea”,[7] and did not explicitly recognize Israel. While the 1988 Hamas Charter had been widely criticized for its antisemitism, the 2017 document removed the antisemitic language and stated that Hamas’ fight was not with Jews as such because of their religion but with the Zionist project.

    So I’d say that Hamas in its current state is not genocidal, though it was in the past. I can emphatize with those goals, and I’d say that as long as Hamas sticks to fighting against the invasion, the settlements and Israeli apartheid policies, it’s arguably a good force in the region.

    Image if you cared as much about the genocide that Israel is committing as you do about the one the Palestinians aren’t committing.

    But I do. All I’m saying is Hamas killed some Israeli people unjustifiably in the past, while Israel is systematically killing all Palestinians they can. It is indeed the difference of proportions that can’t be overstated.

    Yeah, and it also can’t justify what it’s doing by the made up fantasy genocide you’re accusing Palestine of.

    Maybe you’re misunderstanding me. To me - and to the UN by the way - genocide is not a question of scale but intent. For example in WWII, the insane amounts of war crimes Soviet troops committed in Eastern and Central Europe were not genocide despite the millions of casualties. Nor was the invasion of France or England by the Germans. On the other hand, Srebrenica was genocide, it would have been, even if only a single person died as opposed to thousands.

    What makes genocide genocide is the intent to destroy or displace a population based on their race or religion.

    • @BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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      513 days ago

      Warsaw is not located in Germany.

      It fucking was when the uprising happened.

      rounding up and killing German civilians - like the Soviets did

      What a shock, the zionist also can’t help but try to slip some Nazi propaganda in there too.

      What’s your argument?

      My point is that what you said was literally incoherent.

      By the way, I did go and look up the Hamas charter, and found this that changed my opinion.

      So you were deeply ignorant of the topic, but decided to pop off with pro-genocide propaganda anyway. This is exactly why the genocide has so much support in the West.

      So I’d say that Hamas in its current state is not genocidal

      Damn, so when you said that Hamas was not just genocidal, but had actually succeeded in committing genocide, you were talking out your ass.

      All I’m saying is Hamas killed some Israeli people unjustifiably in the past

      The fucking ANC killed some people unjustifiably in the past, so did the Jewish resistance against the Nazis; do we have to fucking go on about it every time we talk about those struggles too? Or just this one?

      the insane amounts of war crimes

      And here comes some more Nazi propaganda.

      genocide is not a question of scale but intent.

      Yeah, and remember that you knew fuck all about the intent of the Palestinians, by your own admition, but you went ahead and assumed that they were committing genocidal thought-crimes anyway, because westerners can’t fucking treat us as human.

      • @exploitedamerican@lemm.ee
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        313 days ago

        Holy shit chat, keep up the good fight!

        How do i see the removed comments on the voyager app? Or do I have to pull lemmy up online?or is it just Zionist apologia brain rot and im better off pretending that shit didn’t even get posted lol