• Ulrich
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      Protestors or vandals and rioters?

      Yes.

      The former: to prevent government persecution and unfair retaliation.

      Why would they face persecution if they did nothing wrong!?

      • @EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com
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        307 days ago

        The government has always had it out for protestors, to the extent that they’ll try and use agents provocateur to escalate the situation. They don’t want people to protest, they just want people to life back and take it. C’mon, you seriously asking this?

        • Ulrich
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          The point I’m trying to make is that everyone is wearing a mask for the same reason: to prevent retribution for their beliefs and according actions.

          They don’t “know what they’re doing is wrong”, they just know that other people think that and will target them for it, which is the exact same reason protestors wear them.

          • @WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca
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            107 days ago

            Some beliefs require retribution. Some causes are righteous. Fuck off with your false equivalencies. Rioters aren’t employed by the people- law enforcement is.

          • @EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com
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            217 days ago

            There’s a difference between wearing a mask because you are engaging in wrongdoing and wearing a mask to prevent unjust retaliation. Even if the actual motive is the same, the implications are very different

            • Ulrich
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              The only difference is what you consider to be “wrong” or “just”.

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                I am not the arbiter of what is/isn’t wrong, but there are some general consensus among the public as well as pertinent legal frameworks.

                • Ulrich
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                  -157 days ago

                  I am not the arbiter of what is/isn’t wrong

                  That’s what you’re doing though

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            the government should always identify itself to the people

            the people should, by default, not be identified by the government

            the power imbalance is important: the government is a large and powerful entity which is meant to serve the people without prejudice. people are individually small, and only gain their power from being a large group. the government is given power by the people in order for it to perform tasks beneficial to all, and must be accountable to the people

            • Ulrich
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              -36 days ago

              What do you think that phrase means? The gov just let’s people do whatever they want?