US made tesla what it is with a lot of state aid and it still failed.

LOL what? What makes you say Tesla “failed”? They’re an incredibly large and profitable company.

You tried to paint it as if only china provides subsidies as some sort of gotcha.

I did no such thing. You are trying to paint what I said that way as some sort of gotcha. Many countries have EV subsidies. None of them compare to that of those from the CCP.

The US, for example, has paid approx. $1B in clean vehicle tax credits for electric and hybrid vehicles originating from around the world. China? $230B.