When it comes to dealing with advertisements when they’re surfing on their browsers. I’ve just learned recently about how Google has or is killing UBlock Origin on the Chrome browser as well as all Chromium based browsers too.
We’ve heard for years about people complaining, bitching, whining and vice versa about how they keep seeing ads. And those trying to help them, keep wasting time to tell these people that they’re surfing without extensions. Whether it’d be on Chrome or Firefox or another browser.
By this point, I’ve long stopped being that helper because if you cared at all about the advertisements you see, you would’ve long had gotten on the wagon of getting adblockers by now. You bring this onto yourself.
nothing. absolutely nothing. if ppl would wanna know they’d ask. let them use facebook, iphone, crude oil and whatever floats their boat. all tipping points have been reached. no need to stress anyone anymore.
“You’ve chosen the wrong phone” is peak lemmy.
Second only to “ditch Windows, use Linux. I don’t care about your use case”.
but it is mutual. the iphone/android user share anyones data (e.g. contacts) with the most f’up corpos. just because something is convenient doesnt make it right. but as stated…nobody needs to be educated anymore, everyone knows best.
Tipping point is the wrong word, because after a certain point it’s tipping and you can’t stop it. There are a few ways that applies, but it very much does not describe the whole situation.
Climate change is a dial on a stove and we’re still cranking it.
have you seen idiocracy?
You mean the thinly veiled eugenics manifesto?
Seems nobody will ever put sanity and social safety over their feelings. People don’t really understand the social contact anymore. They think that’s for everyone else.
Washing hands, not eating off the floor, not drinking from the same bottle as 10 other people etc…
Just basic hygiene things
Vaccines. I gave up trying to gently educate my coworker and instead am waging an outright campaign via Facebook to terrorize her into vaccinating her poor sickly autistic son. Every journal article and news piece on preventable disease, I’m posting it, and am having long winded chats on my page about how measles wipes your immune memory and how a kid died of that in the community a few months ago. Parents of antivaxxers should have their children apprehended by CPS. It’s child abuse.
That the covid pandemic is still going full tilt and still demands a very aggressive worldwide response.
Everybody (over the age of 4–they were born in 2020!) knows it, they just deny it like crazy because they don’t have the balls to deal with how unpleasant it is.
Which makes it infinitely more unpleasant because we aren’t lifting the weight together. But anybody still denying the pandemic is consciously deciding to do it, and an explanation isn’t going to make them un-decide, because it’s not a lack of knowledge.
Influenza typically accounts for 1.5% of deaths at its peak every year. Covid has been hovering around 3%. So it’s currently about the same level as a bad flu season. To me this indicates endemic levels. If there is a strain that suddenly starts killing more people, it will make headlines. I’m not trying to be in denial, this is just where I’m at. I’ve had it, and my immune system is doing what it is supposed to do. I’m not worried about contracting it again, unless the a new deadly strain comes out.
Even having a mild case of COVID has cognitive impacts in healthy people. It’s really really really actually very terrifying.
This is where I’m at too. I was literally just talking to my friend about this last night.
We both know of several people who feel very strongly that the pandemic is still in full swing. They won’t go out of their house without a mask, they get their groceries delivered, they won’t come to any social events for fear of getting sick, and they only work from home. They’ve basically trapped themselves in their house, out of fear.
In my opinion, which is only an opinion, I think these people have an undiagnosed mental illness. Some sort of excess anxiety that was triggered by the events of lockdown and the early pandemic, and now they are unable to reset back to normal.
I don’t mean that in a bad way or a rude way, I’m legitimately concerned for these people and don’t know how to help.
For your average Joe, COVID is just a reality we live with. I don’t want to get it, but I can’t afford to lock myself down, nor do I think it would be healthy for me mentally if I did.
I don’t think it’s good for you physically either. I have been exposed to Covid, probably every few months. The immune system needs to actually see viruses in order to keep making antibodies.
Even in mild cases of COVID in healthy younger people it has cognitive impacts. What you believe is false.
I’m aware of long covid risks. My belief to which you are replying is that exposure to viruses is important to continue making antibodies. The study indicates a 25% risk of cognitive impacts from mild COVID cases. I’m not alarmed by that number, and I’m not seeing how it should change my belief about immune system health.
By the year 2100, ambient CO2 will reach 1000 ppm (1 ppt), which is associated with a 10-15% decline in cognition. In many indoor spaces, CO2 levels are much higher than this. I actually got CO2 up to 1800 ppm just driving my car with the air turned off. Anybody who works indoors in a building is at risk of impaired cognition.
Is it still full tilt?
Looking at CDC graphs of excess deaths, it appears we’re back at baseline. That is, assuming I’m reading this correctly which is very much not a sure thing.
Dude wake up, Covid was the biggest scam in history of humanity!
You dropped this: /s
Everyone all denial about diseases and serious illnesses until they get it. Unfortunately, during the pandemic, some of those who did get COVID and denied about it, still downplayed it like it was just a simple cold. Until you know, some of them actually died because of how much they didn’t anticipate the probability of getting it.
You don’t need to stop informing others, I think stopping is bad. Just tune it down a bit, don’t overexert yourself with it. Most will not care but it’s still important to tell it to them. At some point, they might realize why it’s a good idea.
Also, Google isn’t immediately killing Ad/Content Blockers like uBO, they’re doing it slowly. Which is much smarter. It will mean less resistance. Boiling the frogs (users) slowly has always been the best way of eventually reaching a certain goal, without too much resistance along the way. If you push the goal too fast and too hard, there will be massive resistance, backed by an immediate media backlash. You have to wait that out, spread it out, so that users and media forgets about it again. Also, uBO Lite for MV3 browsers is less effective, but many users won’t notice a difference yet. Next steps will probably be to make it less and less effective over time, while claiming it will be better for the users overall, like offer better security from malicious addons that almost no one installs anyway, or whatever.
You don’t need to stop informing others, I think stopping is bad. Just tune it down a bit, don’t overexert yourself with it. Most will not care but it’s still important to tell it to them. At some point, they might realize why it’s a good idea.
And in public forums, it’s also helpful for the next person who comes along. If that person is only exposed to one “side”, they may never know there is an alternative.
I’ll likely always point it out, but I’m surprised at how few people are willing to understand how to consider a conflict resolved.
Imagine for a moment, you’re sitting in a courtroom. You appear before the judge. You sit down. An officer whispers maybe three highly accusatory sentences in the judge’s ear about things that have long been dealt with. Without you saying a word, and without a few minutes having gone by, the judge sentences you to practice forced disappearance or face annihilation in some form. So many times I’ve faced people who you’d think believe this to be how the journey from point A to point Z is expected to play out in addressing issues, in all spheres of life, complete with a direct rejection of nuance/elaboration, and it has made me wonder if humanity really is inherently evil, for a lack of a better word.
I’m having an aneurysm trying to understand what’s being said here, can anyone explain?
Glad I’m not the only one. I read it 3 times and still don’t know what’s being said.
Maybe don’t take it in all at once. Separate everything into parts based on where a comma would be. And also realize that “due process” is one word. I am genuinely confused at how it’s hard to understand.
I’m trying to understand your conclusion, it feels like you have contempt for humanity because of their inability to tell when a conflict is resolved?
Correct.
it’s partly deliberate. a war is being waged on our ability to communicate, organize, and solve problems. the elites don’t want us thinking critically, they want us obedient, working, paying.
i think contempt is justified, because anyone can learn how to debate. but please understand most people have been shoved violently into their complacency.
I’m tired of helping and educating people about how using “bipolar” to describe things like the weather or a job is problematic
That AI safety is much more important than AI hurting copyright or artists.
I say this because the “AI sucks haha” and “AI just steals” retoric is very harmful to AI safety movement as people just don’t believe AGI or even close-to-AGI will be capable enough to harm our society.
Currently many estimate that there’s 1-20% chance that AGI could end our civilization. So fuck the copyright and fuck the artists when we’re looking at ods like this we need to start preparing now even if it’s 10 years away.
But alas, nobody can’t think further out than the length of their nose and honestly I’m just hoping we’re lucky enough to be in that 80% because clearly we’re not going to do anything about it.
That would require an actual AGI to emerge, which it has not and is not going to. LLMs are fancy text prediction tools and little more.
What we see in AI as an average consumer is like the RC hotwheels to a state of the art tank being used by big corps.
Just imagine that if an early LLM can fool an engineer into thinking it’s sentient, what a state of the art system can do, one designed to predict the market, run propaganda bots on social media or straight up manufacture news stories with the footage to back it up.
The AI being used by big corporations is so advanced, it’s one of the reasons countries have been trying to digitally isolate themselves. It’s really not an if, it’s a when.
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I do. I did get a little lost in the weeds with my point though, as I was talking in a more general sense about how AI is already powerful and dangerous - because AI safety is a subject in this thread.
The “AI” being used by big corporations is still fundamentally an LLM and has all the flaws of an LLM. It’s not a hot wheels car vs a tank, it’s a hot wheels car vs a $2 billion RC car
I’d like to get into how both me and OP are talking about how fast AI, not just LLMs, is scaling, and the potential it has across a variety of industries - most concerning to me is it’s use by investment firms. But I need to go to the barber because I already have enough split hairs.
It is my understanding that the fundamental architecture (the general purpose transformer) is identical between the “AI” used by Black Rock and by OpenAI
If you have some evidence to the contrary I’d always appreciate the chance to learn.
But the transformer based architecture is fundamentally flawed: it will always hallucinate.
Are you assuming LLMs are the only way humans could ever try making an AGI? If so, why do you assume that?
There’s more important shit than worrying about if an unproven sci fi concept will come to being any time soon.
Yeah, agreed. That’s not what I asked though.
This response is a bit of a misdirection since we all discuss shit that isn’t the most important all the time.
I agree that AGI is dangerous but I don’t see LLMs as evidence that we’re close to AGI, I think they should be treated as separate issues.
Given what I think I know about LLMs, I agree. I don’t think they’re the path to AGI.
The person I replied to said AGI was never going to emerge.
I had meant to say AGI would never emerge from our current attempts at creating them.
If people start developing a new more promising kind of “ai”, we can talk about it ðen. For now, ð þing we call “AI” sucks and just steals.
which it has not and is not going to
So you’re confident that AGI is not fundamentally possible? That would contradict basically every single scientist in the world and this is exactly why this issue is so difficult. Ironically, proving my point for the OP’s question lol
AI safety is definitely an important thing but when you follow it up with “AGI could end our civilization” you lose me.
It sounds hyperbolic but if you assume it will reach human-level intelligence and will have the ability to update its own code, you very quickly have something much smarter than us. Whether it will want to help or hurt us is an unknown. Whether we can control something that’s smarter than us (and getting smarter every second) is unlikely, IMO.
Mate
The fake ass AIs we have are straining the power grids of the entire world
AGI literally cannot hurt humanity because a minor brownout would kill it in its cradle.
That’s simply not true. All datacenters of the world (including crypto) only use 6% of our power.
Grammar.
I’m not a fan of people enthusiastically turning the written language into gibberish and hiding behind “it’s enough to be understood.”
I don’t fucking understand you, idiot.
That there are AI art generators that use licensed art and/or public domain and open licence images. People so deep in the “AI art is theft” shtick they don’t even wanna hear it.
I wish it was acceptable to call older folks out as lazy if they refuse to learn how to text, email and otherwise use the internet. It’s fine for them to call millennials lazy if they can’t drive a stick shift or balance a checkbook, but if you’re giving me bullshit like “I’m 68 years old, I don’t text and I don’t email” you are just a lazy, stubborn bastard. I’ve met plenty of 90 year olds who are perfectly capable because they aren’t lazy old fucks.
Seriously, of all people they’re the ones that have been around since the internet’s inception. They’ve had more time to adapt than anyone.
I’m not sure that flies for boomers. That’s the X’ers: my adult life pretty much matches the history of PCs, so I better know how to use them.
However my parents were older when PCs appeared, and at the time there seemed no reason to learn about them. Ok, my Dad was an engineer who built them, but my Mom never had any reason to use a computer until the Facebook era, when lots of regular people started to use email. It was still quite common at the time for adults to not see a purpose, so I give boomers a pass
Even if someone doesn’t regularly use computers, it doesn’t hurt to gain some experience in communicating in ways you’re not used to. Like, I don’t like ‘typing’ on a mobile phone. The interface is small, customization is limited and you’re prone to constantly make spelling mistakes. But I adapted and can at least now type on mobile half the speed I can on a keyboard.
Generational gaps need not apply. This is simply just a learning thing that is applicable to all.
The dangers of conservatism/fascism.
If not for conservatism, humans would be proactively addressing global heating. Conservatives oppress the innocent and vulnerable in every country where conservatives have power. If not for conservatism, there would be no genocide. Conservatives are the gullible, deadly foot-soldiers of the billionaires.
Conservatism is the single biggest threat to life on earth. Eradicating conservatism would be the single most positive change we could make to preserve life on earth.
Conservatism should be used as a moderator. If Libertarianism is left unchecked it will try to solve all the problems all at once, running out of resources before even achieving a proper solution. Ideally the Parliament should be roughly split into 5ths with each part representing an important area (environmentalist, economist, socialism/communalism, etc.). Then through coalitions, in which conservatism should always be a part of the most relevant problems can be targeted in a moderated sense.
I use Firefox for over a decade now never had any problem with ads and if it occurres it’s very easy to sort it out
These answers reek of superiority complex. These are less “educating” others and more that so many of you have decided something specific is a big deal to you and in a proselytizing fashion you preach to others and when they don’t give a shit or perhaps just dont have the emotional capacity to ALSO care about the thing you brought up, you take that as ignorance, when really it’s just some people don’t feel like caring that much about that specific concern you decided is uber important.
People aren’t built to endless worry about every little horrible problem surrounding them and the world every fucking day.
Also, this whole forum feels like overreaction too. Just because “some” people didn’t care for your input doesn’t mean all didn’t, but a lot of people overreact online. It’s coupled with the usual “am I the only one who…” kind of crap. No. You aren’t. You aren’t the only genius who understands the world is shit and we’re fucked.
