• @MehBlah@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    I wish one time someone who hates all the newer stuff would give a real reason why and not some lame blanket statement about it. I liked some of the new movies well enough even though I was a adult when they came out. Sure the first three were great when you were a kid. I’m seen that same look though on kids watching the new stuff. The new ones are their star wars.

    What a bunch of whiny children.

    • @snooggums@midwest.social
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      6 months ago

      The original trilogy were fun adventure that had really solid special effects for their time, quotable lines, memorable characters, and yes were just new and fresh takes on existing stories like everythibg is.

      The new movies lean way too hard into nostalgia for nostalgia’s sake instead while also contradicting a lot of the established world building of the original movies without more than one or two memorable characters. They spend way too much time talking about the macguffins instwad of using them to advance the plot, have special effects sequences that drag on too long which makes them tedious instead of tense and exciting. They waste leading characters by setting up some interesting possibilities that could be explored, like a stormtrooper who deserted or the knight of Ren, both of which were introduced at the start of Ep 7, then drop them to spend time on macguffins leading to new macguffins like the stupid sith dagger bullshit that made zero sense.

      The sequel trilogy starts with a rehash of the original trilogy, but a worse story and with better special effects. It isn’t memorable and then two incoherent movies that dropped the interesting parts of ep 7 to waste time on pointless spectacle.

      Rogue One had the style of the first films down, but didn’t pull off being memorable. I put it third after Empire Strikes back and A New Hope.

      None of this is to say the original trilogy is perfect or anything, it is just more fun to watch and quote and that is what is important with adventure stories. Spectacle doesn’t matter when the story sets up something interesting and then forgets about it.

      • @MehBlah@lemmy.world
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        -46 months ago

        My post got removed. Bunch of thin skinned little children in here. I have my opinion and don’t really care if you don’t share it.

        • @Moneo@lemmy.world
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          66 months ago

          Calling everyone who disagrees with you “thin skinned little children” makes you look like a child. It makes it seem like you really do care that they don’t share your opinion.

      • @Moneo@lemmy.world
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        06 months ago

        If you hate the movies because they don’t respect the lore, I’m sorry to say I don’t think your opinion really matters.

        To explain why, I’ll share my own experience. I am a massive fan of Dune, I’ve read the series multiple times and consider it my favourite art/series/thing. I kind of hated the recent movies because in my opinion they didn’t understand the source material and adapted it in a way that ruined what made the books so amazing to me. I couldn’t separate the movies from the books and it ruined my experience of watching the movies.

        My point is that if you are so invested in the lore and backstory, you’re probably not able to assess the movies on their own merit. The prequels are god awful movies and you seem to have no issue with them.

        BTW I’m not defending the sequels at all except to say that I thought FA was a fine movie.

    • @Anyolduser@lemmynsfw.com
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      156 months ago

      As succinctly as possible:

      Disney paid a billion dollars for a franchise people cared about. It doesn’t matter what the franchise was or anything else, what mattered is that people cared and many considered it to be culturally significant.

      Disney then made a trilogy without a long term plan other than “make a trilogy”.

      The writing was at best lackluster, at worst laughable. Specific examples abound (“somehow, Palpatine returned”) but the major problems are that the core conflict of the middle film of the trilogy was contrived and the third film then had to scramble to cover the glaring, obvious problems. This writing issue eclipses other (still very serious) problems like a lack of character development with the main character, setups without payoffs, and trivializing or bastardizing supporting characters.

        • @Anyolduser@lemmynsfw.com
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          66 months ago

          Fuck me, really?

          What the cinnamon toast fuck is wrong with that company? I don’t care if you’re fucking Bill Gates, when you spend four billion dollars you might want to … ya know … have a game plan and not rush a script out the door.

          • @snooggums@midwest.social
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            16 months ago

            The movies are not the moneymakers for Star Wars, and never have been. Lucas didn’t get 4 billion dollars for the movie rights.

            The money is in toys and licensing, and Disney has most likely made their money back already.

    • @JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      I like how you’re getting downvoted because it kind of puts your point on display. I am by no means fond of the sequel trilogy, but I certainly agree that there is a generational preference based on which movies you grew up with.

      • @snooggums@midwest.social
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        56 months ago

        This is why they are being downvoted.

        I wish one time someone who hates all the newer stuff would give a real reason why and not some lame blanket statement about it.

        Plenty of people have given real reasons that aren’t blanket statements. Some people have soent way more time than the movies deserve pointing out the issues with the new movies.

        Heck, I spent a few minutes making a comment as a reply to theirs covering the basic issues that is far more than a blanket statement, and that was just the objectively bad stuff that I remembered off the top of my head.

    • @ryathal@sh.itjust.works
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      286 months ago

      Plenty of people have written/spoke in great detail about this. At this point you aren’t actually interested in criticism of Disney’s work.

      • @fsxylo@sh.itjust.works
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        166 months ago

        There’s nothing wrong with liking bad movies if they could at least admit they’re bad. But no, they have to defend Disney’s honor or some shit.

        • jwiggler
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          46 months ago

          Star Wars, DC, Marvel, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, Jurassic whatever, Ghostbusters, Indiana Jones, Godzilla, Halo, Gears of War, Batman: Arkham and every other nostalgia-driven cinematic/televised/videogame franchise relies on shitgobblers. Shitgobblers just keep gobbling.