• @Dalraz@lemmy.ca
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    -311 days ago

    How so?

    There isnt any reason why it can’t be both, and in my opinion it very much is.

    • @BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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      1111 days ago

      No. Trump is not employed by the Russian government and the idea he is is a conspiracy theory on par with pizzagate or birtherism.

      • skulblaka
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        -811 days ago

        Got any proof of that?

        Because if not, then you’re pushing your own conspiracy theory on par with pizzagate or birtherism.

        Trump is a known Russian asset.

        Want more? There’s more.

        America shit the bed, sure, absolutely. No disagreement here. This does not mean that we didn’t shit the bed with assistance.

      • @Dalraz@lemmy.ca
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        -711 days ago

        Ah, you’re hung up on the Employee comment and not really about your assertion that the US problems are only home grown and not from “perfidious foreigners”.

        Well is probably true he’s not an “Employee” and maybe not a “Russian Asset” although I personally think he is the latter. I would argue he is at the very least compromised by Russia.

        And it’s very true that the US has massive home grown issues it needs to solve, but it’s also true there are many foreign issues that as imposing there will on the US.

        • @BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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          1211 days ago

          not a “Russian Asset” although I personally think he is the latter. I would argue he is at the very least compromised by Russia.

          Ok, then I’m going to write you off as the mad conspiracy theorist that you are, no different to a QAnoner or a birtherist.

          And no, there are not “foreign issues that as imposing there will on the US.”, that’s wild projection.

          • @Dalraz@lemmy.ca
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            -811 days ago

            It doesn’t surprise me that you would write someone off as a conspiracy theorist, so I don’t take much issues with your opinion on that.

            There is most certainly foreign issues imposing their will on the US, some are successful some are not. this is no different than another country, it’s how Geo-politics works.

            When Trump meets with putin, both sides will try to impose there policies on each other.

            Then there is the darker side of this with foreign propaganda being injected into things like social media to influence the opinion of the general public.

            • @freagle@lemmygrad.ml
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              You don’t understand that the USA is the global hegemon. It does not get manipulated by other countries. It either manages to dominate or it does not. There is no scenario where other countries have the power they need to actually dominate the US domestically in any sphere.

              The dominant producer of propaganda globally is the USA, both domestically and abroad. Not a single country on the planet has the networks, the apparatus, the number of people, and the continuous propaganda history that the USA has. No “foreign” actor has any chance of competing fully against US propaganda.