You know, DOGE, fascist president and corporations dictating what people can do, institutions being ruined, laws being ignored. Is there any way out of that or is it over? Is the USA done?

  • @blasphemous@lemmy.world
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    62 days ago

    Although there’s a lot of knee-jerk reaction in some circles, Trump issuing EOs that are illegal and unenforceable only go as far as all the other vitriol that slides it’s way out of his mouth creases. Plenty of things he does are blocked by judges, including his demand that only him and his AG are allowed to interpret the law. It just doesn’t work like that. Although the possibility of things being escalated and allowed through a compromised supreme Court still exists, it hasn’t happened yet. I’m not giving into the mania while checks and balances still actually do exist.

    Corporations dictating what people can do has been happening basically my whole life.

    DOGE is another story. It’s very bad, yeah, but I’m not sure how it affects me personally in my day-to-day.

    • @StructuredPair@lemmy.world
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      42 days ago

      All government services will start going to shit. You will not notice immediate effects of this, but roads will be worse, food and drugs will become unsafe as the already inadequate monitoring becomes no monitoring, etc. It just won’t all happen overnight and everything will slowly get more dangerous and shinier as all government oversight is destroyed.

      Even more indirectly, data products that companies use for deciding investments will become increasingly unreliable. This will increase uncertainty and risk in any corporate investment and lead to decreased corporate spending and an eventual economic contraction.

      More immediately, a large number of the people fired this week and last week work in rural areas and the sudden loss of so many jobs in those areas will lead to significant local recessions as the federal money being added to the economy through paychecks disappears overnight.

      • @blasphemous@lemmy.world
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        11 day ago

        This is a pretty good answer. I hope that the judicial branch (not just the top) will reverse many of these decisions, as DOGE really does not have the authority to remove things that Congress voted on…and hopefully Congress will reinstate some of the very important things when they inevitably have to do budget again.

    • @Katana314@lemmy.world
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      32 days ago

      It’s erroneous to claim the judge orders blocking the executive orders have done anything.

      As judge of Lemmy, I order you to stop posting. /s

      ^ There, that statement alone had just as much effect as the judicial orders. Fact is, DOGE still has extensive access to most of the systems that they breached, and judges have largely been ignored, or have given rulings complicit with Trump’s actions.

      • @blasphemous@lemmy.world
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        11 day ago

        AFAIK that hasn’t actually happened yet. Any search results I got were “what will happen if Trump ignores the court/what can judges do if orders are defied?” So, as a person who had to distance myself from sensationalized news for my mental health, I shouldn’t worry about things that haven’t happened. Especially things so far outside of my control.