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I’m not an “Elon simp,” and the idea that owning a Tesla means I support him is absurd. Most of you order things on Amazon, but we don’t run around calling you “Bezos simps.”
Nevertheless, I just want to note that I’ve used FSD for about 9 months now. Maybe I’m just the “lucky one,” but I’ve only ever have it so something I didn’t expect/want once in that period, which was when I was using it at night and it seemed to have gotten confused about a turning lane vs the highway.
I just recently used it to drive from Worcester to Boston Logan, and I didn’t have to handle the wheel at all until I took over to pull it into the parking garage. Frankly, it works incredibly well for me. Your mileage may vary.
You’re unbelievably lucky. I got FSD Beta in one of the early release waves, and had it until right before V11 when I got tired of paying $200/mo for it. I had 2 red lights in my city it would consistently try to run every single time. I reported it to Tesla dozens of times with no resolution across many updates. There’s so many videos of FSD Beta failing online, it was absolutely not ready for public roads at the time, and doesn’t seem to be meaningfully closer based on the videos I’ve watched recently.
The cameras and processors in your car just fundamentally aren’t good enough for self-driving (there still isn’t a suite of sensors and hardware that is, despite throwing ungodly amounts of money at the problem) and Tesla has proven multiple times that they don’t have a culture of safety and shouldn’t be trusted to develop this technology.
I agree. I’m an incredibly lucky man in many ways.
I also agree with you about Tesla not having a culture of safety, and I don’t doubt your personal experience. I think I just have been lucky. My wife also has a Tesla (a 3, I have an X), and she paid the up front for FSD and has enjoyed it for 3+ years with no problems. I have two friends that drive Tesla, one as their primary (a Y) the other as their secondary (a more recent model 3 than my wife’s), and no one has had those kind of problems.
The video evidence speaks for itself–it clearly does happen. It just seems to happen very rarely, in my limited experience. I’ve personally watched humans drive through red lights more often than I’ve personally heard of Tesla owners have cars that do the same, but, again, I’m open to the critical position. But my wife and I enjoy FSD very much, and so do my friends, and we’ve just not had problems with it. I don’t expect to be able to sleep in the back seat while it drives me somewhere, but I drive up and down the east coast for work (I’ve had my X for 9mo and have 12k+ miles on it), and it’s incredibly nice and has changed my work experience.
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This is fair! Even the other AV companies that do better than Tesla have had safety incidents that any sane country would shut down the entire program over.
I think we had the right idea trying to incubate this technology inside government in the first place.
“It’s ok because it didn’t happen to me”
No, what I said is, “my general experience has been good, but I understand that may not be the general experience of the technology.”