New comm at !Lotrmemes@piefed.social - a community for posting silly memes about the Lord Of The Rings and The Hobbit - whether books, movies, cartoons, series, games, or miscellanea!
Why leave Dbzer0?
In general, I’ve been eyeing leaving Lemmy in general for Piefed for a while, mostly over the concerning behavior of the Lemmy devs in enforcing genocide denial on their flagship server.
As for this move specifically, however, I’ve had some tension with Dbzer0 the past few months. Originally I mostly shrugged it aside. They’re anti-electoralists, I’m not, it’s whatever, it’s the Fediverse, we don’t have to agree. I preferred to move LOTRmemes to Dbzer0 initially for decentralization reasons, and at the time the admins hadn’t given me much in the way to distrust them.
I was recently banned from Dbzer0 for a false claim made by some poster who loves to talk about me, and then proceeded to spread the additional easily disproven lie that I was transphobic and refused to use neopronouns over my interactions with a user called Drag - both of which are demonstrably untrue claims which I confronted the poster on previously; the admins apparently don’t give a shit how many times this happens, but downvoting that aforementioned poster when they say something objectionable is against the rules. Apparently, downvotes are forbidden if it’s a poster the admins like to asspat.
Funny enough, I was actually assured that both the main admins at the time of the controversy with Drag were broadly onboard with my opinion - ie that I was willing to use Drag’s pronouns, but didn’t regard that as carte blanche to force people to call dragons real. Guess that’s transphobia too - or maybe they’ve changed their opinions since to suit.
However, the behavior of the admins has gotten to the point where I’m really through with the whole instance, and getting a 7-day instance ban for bullshit from a poster that they regularly permit to spread blatant lies was just the last straw.
Banning people for being anti-AI, removing criticism of the admins’ own behavior (including, ironically, in YePowerTrippingBastards), hiding the ability to check mods in the modlogs, handing out bans despite breaking no rules but being a ‘turbolib’ for arguing for anarchist harm reduction, removing posts for ‘badjacketing’ for anyone making an accusation (except, of course, for people or accusations they like), the idea that preventing Nazis from getting into office is good is ‘reactionary’ and removal-worthy, banning discussion of Blahaj’s policy of banning people in other comms from YePowerTrippingBastards, trying to force through refederation with Lemmygrad, of all places - it’s pretty clearly not for me.
So, you’re all welcome to make the move with me, or you’re welcome to stick around there, of course. The dbzer0 comm will need new mods, but mods are a dime a dozen, honestly, so my departure there is no great loss to the comm. All up to personal preference - but I sure as shit won’t be posting there anymore, even after the instance ban expires.
And, predictably, this announcement was deleted on the dbzer0 comm by the admins.
I checked the original conversation, and for future reference there’s evidence for sexual violence on October 7th, but not systematic sexual violence. Both claims are substantiated by the article you linked (CTRL+F “system”), and in the first place neither are particularly controversial, so I’m not sure what either of you were even arguing about.
I was arguing that denying sexual violence on Oct 7th is unacceptable. They were arguing sexual violence on Oct 7th was Israeli propaganda.
Like a supermajority of some countries believing that Hamas killed no civilians on Oct 7th, ideologically motivated disinformation spreads very quickly and very easily if it is not disputed.
Again, sexual violence happened, systematic sexual violence did not. Felix only denounced the latter as Israeli lies, because it is; they didn’t say a word about the former. There was no misinformation to spread. Your own link says as much.
Apparently reading comprehension, not only of the article but the very comment you responded to, is not a requirement for you.
They were not saying no sexual violence happened. They were saying it wasn’t intentionally systemic.
Not understanding the distinction after it has been clearly spelled out to you like it would for a child implies that you’re repeating it as-is to intentionally spread disinformation.
So, my question for you: why are you intentionally spreading disinformation?
Yea, this seems pretty dumb as far as disagreements go. The article that felix linked has this to say about the Israeli report:
Prosecutors, the report argues, should not have to rely on the kind of evidence typically associated with prosecutions—witness or victim testimony, forensic reports and the like—but instead should be able to rely on “circumstantial evidence” and general deductions. And in order to find a pattern of systemic sexual violence, it should be sufficient to identify individual cases of such violence and read into them a systemic nature. Completing the circle, those individual cases need not hold up to the standards of typical prosecutions.
Even the link felix posted was acknowledging the credible reports of individual cases of sexual violence - I have to assume that the ‘lies’ they were referring to were specific to the allegations of ‘systemic’ sexual violence. Seems like pug was reading something else into the comment entirely and got upset by their own projection.
Yeah Pug was really weird there, but to be fair the way Felix never addressed that fact in their responses, so the way they were responding makes them seem like they disagreed with Pug rather than (correctly) believing their statement to be irrelevant. That was really weird all around.
