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wow lemmy is full of liberals
Ya think maybe producing most of the world’s shit has anything to do with that pollution, buddy? Like wow the west outsourced most of its manufacturing to China, no fucking shit it’s going to produce more pollution. What’s their per capita #s look like, frienderino?
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coming back a week later for this, lol
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They’ve done a lot about that, like becoming the global leader in pretty much every renewable sector as well as nuclear. Also, worth mentioning that smooth brained liberals have all their stuff produced in China. It’s absolute idiocy to bleat about pollution without considering where consumption is happening. Per capita energy usage in China is far lower than in the west.
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The demand comes from people consuming the goods. I’m sorry you lack intellectual capacity to wrap your head around this concept.
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That’s a nice straw man there buddy. I never said anything of the sort. It’s the capitalist system in the west that’s responsible for creating western lifestyle and the consumption that goes along with it. Nowhere did I say that I expected this system to work either. Keep trying there.
It’s wild how people use anticapitalist arguments to attack opponents of neoliberalism
China produces less pollution then most western countries while also doing all their manufacturing, you racist cretin.
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In terms of particulates? China’s really cleaned that up in recent years.
But, well, China doesn’t have massive piles of natural gas it can burn instead of coal. Coal is notoriously dirty.
Isn’t this the same country that also produces per capita 1/4th the pollution of USA, and the single country that manufactures almost all of the world’s goods, effectively bringing total world’s pollution to way less than if many countries were manufacturing?
Also the country that dominates green energy manufacturing… Which is what everyone else is using to reduce their emissions.
Now go per capita and check out other countries
So far this year China has added more solar capacity than the US in its entire history
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Say, what would the data show if we measured cumulatively instead of pretending history began in the 1990s?
Yes. And the same country that produces all the shit we order from them. So is it their pollution or ours?
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It is… What?
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That’s true, but pointing fingers saying China has to change when changing nothing ourselves, is pure propaganda.
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In 2021, China, the United States, the EU27, India, Russia and Japan remained the world’s largest CO2 emitters. Together they account for 49.2% of global population, 62.4% of global Gross Domestic Product, 66.4% of global fossil fuel consumption and 67.8% of global fossil CO2 emissions.
Unless China annexed the US, the EU, India, Russia, and Japan and I just haven’t gotten the memo yet…
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Very interesting strategy you’re taking with your argument. Lying, getting called out on your lies, and then saying you don’t care is sure to make you look very smart
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What are you talking about lmao, I haven’t answered any questions because you haven’t asked me any
If you don’t care, you don’t need to respond 🙂
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Don’t know what question you’re answeing, but okay.
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