OpenAI CEO Sam Altman is in talks with investors, including from the United Arab Emirates, to raise between $5 trillion to $7 trillion in funding. The goal, according to a report in The Wall Street Journal, is to increase the world’s chip manufacturing capacity and enhance AI capabilities.
The fundraising efforts are part of a broader strategy to address OpenAI’s growth constraints, particularly the scarcity of AI chips needed for training large language models like ChatGPT.
Altman’s proposal is said to include forming a partnership with investors, chip manufacturers, and power providers to finance the construction of chip foundries, which would then be operated by the chip manufacturers.
Nobody seems to recognize that madness is not in numbers, but in people.
Can someone ELI5 what’s the open in the OpenAI’s name at the moment?
I know they released Whisper as an open source model and that’s about it, but I might be wrong.
Open for business
Open your wallet /s
It used to be open, then money happened.
Pandora’s box
Is Jukebox open source?
Edit: nope, it is not
I don’t know but maybe it’s short for ‘open goal’
Open sesame
$2.92T is current Apple market cap btw
Just a few more parameters, then the text prediction model will become sentient.
How do they plan to pay that back? Because investors will want a return on investment.
They will use it create a LLM that will create more hype for “AI”. This will drive future investment and make line go up.
Nobody needs to make products anymore. You just gotta create hype to get the attention of the billionaires since they’re the ones with all the money.
That’s the neat part…
What are we going to do tonight Pinky?
feed me, Seymour!
I don’t think money is the missing thing here…
Ah yes, open “ai”…where we parse as many webaites as possible, rank them internally by keyword usage and or views, then have our “bot” spew that shit at you
So crazy we should fire this guy (again).
I wonder if this will be one of the things pointed at after the AI bubble bursts. Yes, AI will be sticking around, but the hype over it now is ridiculous.
It will collapse when the product sales don’t match the AI spend. I’d say it’s only being propped up by hype money even now.
If you read the article, it mentions that they’re generating $2b/yr in revenue already. It’s not trillions, but damn if that isn’t impressive for a startup.
The way how every single digital product suddenly has AI shoved in it is really reminiscing of the Web bubble before it popped.
But just think about all the time AI could save you at work by performing simple tasks. It really suits my need very well, have you tried it? NAH JK FUCK AI. OpenAI is a shitshow and their fans are morons.
There are two possibilities: railway/dotcom bubble or monorail/bitcoin bubble …and I’m not sure which one it is going to be yet. In the first case, a lot of people lose their investment, because they got too greedy and believed in huge returns…but the infrastructure remains and there is a net good to society and time spent specializing in it is worth it afterwards. The second, not so much, it is just a hype cycle with almost nothing of use left once it is gone and a lot of wasted time. I’m leaning towards the first, but if they don’t find a way to bring energy costs down, it might end up in the monorail/bitcoin scenario…maybe 10% chance.
If AI hits a dead end, it’ll still be trotted out as an excuse to keep wages low, as in “if you peasants keep complaining, you can just be replaced with AI!” just like the articles about burger-making robots over a decade ago when people were protesting for a $15/hr minimum wage back then (and still no burger-making robots mass deployed today). Trash still has its uses, just like how bitcoin hasn’t become the “become your own bank” system it was promised to be and is instead used to hide financial fuckery.
It’s been letting people be their own bank for 15 years. You can send transactions across the globe for pennies in fees which confirm instantly using Bitcoin lightning. The supply has remained capped at 21 million. It’s doing exactly what it said it would do without a single hack or hour of downtime 24/7, 365.
The lightning network is more centralized. Congrats, you just exchanged the banks for a different set of banks.
Except it’s not. Lightning is incredibly decentralized, you can run a full lightning node on a raspberry pi. I have one running on my phone. Look up a graph of lightning network, looks just like any other decentralized system. Nodes you route through never have custody of your funds, unlike a bank.
Yeah, I’m sure your dinky raspberry pi is processing a meaningful number of transactions.
It can. Lightning transactions are as easy and lightweight to process as e-mail. They measure in the bytes or kb in size, no mining is required.
That reminds me of a funny story from Encyclopedia Geopolitica where an expert in money laundering describes bitcoin around 2016 as being an el-dorado for financial forensics. It was so good at tracking funds that there was a bitcoin wallet address on a terrorism website on the deep web and they could see the donations arrive in real time and catch a pile of 'em. Maybe now they are more cautious and use more mixing layers, but it is still a terrible use case for that if you don’t control transaction entry and exit nodes: the ledger is public and every transaction is traceable.
Do they even think about where in a functioning society those trillions are coming from? Do they think wealth just magically appears without affecting the wealth gap?
It’ll come from the working class, like all wealth does.
I’m starting to think we agreed to a very bad deal. 🥹
We agreed?
Yeah, I didn’t agree to shit. I got yanked from the void into all of this.
Oil money. They even mention the UAE.
oh so contributing to climate change and worsening the wealth gap
AI ain’t gonna give two shits about climate change.
ai is a far cry from being sentient but I get what you mean, the capitalist overlords are gonna use it to extract more money from us instead of giving a shit
I’m not sure but these kinds of wasteful spendings are just “imaginary money” that sits around in virtual bank accounts being hoarded and doing nothing but when it’s wasted like this actually gets spend for salaries etc. Basically all this money is generated in computers and an “inefficiency” until it’s being used.
It’s much worse when they buy up tons of real estate or apartments or buy up existing corporations to make them more “profitable”.
Why would a corporation consider that? I understand capitalism isn’t popular here, but still, the corporation SHOULDN’T be considering such issues, they should only attempt to further their own goals.
It’s the role of government to align corporate goals with reality, or with societal values
Thats the reality. Government should be acting as the counterbalance. Unfortunately while the goverment remains dysfunctional, corps are getting to do whatever they want. Its bad because once its done, its very hard to unroll it without affecting innocent people.
Very true. I’m specifically discussing the content “do they even think about”. No!
It’s like saying the killing of the earth is just baked into the system.
Well yes, we know that, it’s just completely wrong and alarmingly close to manifest.
A bit late now, but perhaps people–governments, regulators, leaders, the parties who had the freedom from the fields to sit about and draft corporate structures–should have thought about the interplay right in your statement which delivers us our current modern world.
I.e, the below points are in my sincere opinion, fundamentally mutually exclusive:
the corporation SHOULDN’T be considering such issues, they should only attempt to further their own goals
and
It’s the role of government to align corporate goals with reality, or with societal values.
The former empowers the more agile structure of a singular corporation to devote all it can regardless of morality to ensure it controls the latter–Government, regulations, public opinion,“ownership” of natural resources–such as to maximize it’s own goals.
The goal of any single corporation taken to absurdity is often touted as absurd because but is it really?
What mechanisms does a corporation have to not grow until all the world is simply ‘Megacorp Branded’ ruins whose asset holdings trend to infinite on the last running quarterly report spreadsheet within a planet devoid of both investors and consumers?
There are no brakes built into the most common corporate structures by short sighted design, and humans suck at exponentials.
It hasn’t even been fifteen human generations since the advent of the Industrial Revolution bringing the impetus for ever speeding greed.
If the rich were any less short sighted than the poor and money granted the wisdom they think it does, they would be pushing for corporate reform that doesn’t risk a period of “blink and both our profits and the world are gone”.
That selfish-altruism isn’t common sense even as they all clamor for anti-aging just shows cash doesn’t provide wisdom, only opportunity to get your head out of your ass and insulation from consequence until it’s too late otherwise.
At this point I wouldn’t mind them accidentally creating Skynet and killing us all in a nuclear inferno, just so we don’t have to listen to any more insufferable, grifting techbros.
Max Zorin had the right idea about silicon valley.
“Accidentally”
hell yeah feed the beast let’s all turn into weird little egg holder things
Thank God there is trickle down economics. We will all benefit in the end… Right?
