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Eat the rich. Fucking cunts.
These people forget that they have to exist physically alongside us “citizens”. Your layers of obfuscation won’t save your reputation forever. Eventually people will be so tired of everything be stacked against us we’ll just riot and take from these corpos.
Revoke their corporate charter, nationalize their infrastructure, sell it to municipal ISPs.
Nah, just allow communities to build their local infrastructure. Trust me. You don’t need to threaten the status quo, just allow the market to compete.
Every town where local fiber is available, Comcast and Spectrum suddenly have cheaper and more reliable service. It’s magical.
I mean yeah that’s what monopolies do. They eliminate competition by either buying it out or lowering their prices/improving service to drive them out of business so they can then raise prices again. Just cause a small company can come in and make things better while they’re able to be around doesn’t mean we shouldn’t go after these monopolies and cut them down so they can’t have this power.
Municipal broadband is not a small company though. It’s a cooperative owned by residents.
And in many states it’s actually illegal. Which makes no sense.
Probably companies like Comcast making sure there isn’t anything to disrupt their monopolies. Another reason to break them up so they can’t have that much power.
I lived in Charlotte, NC when Google announced GFiber was coming. Instantly AT&T started running as much fiber as possible and Charter(spectrum) was trying to get people locked into cheaper 3 year contracts. Ultimately AT&T got fiber first so we went with them, and it was vastly better. Charter was getting 60% packet loss every night from oversold infrastructure they didn’t care to fix, as before the announcement the only competition was AT&T uverse in some parts of the city.
Shoot them all into the sun.
apparently its less effort/energy to shoot them into deep space.
but either way is good.
I mean yeah, the sun is in one place, space is basically anywhere else. It’s easier to shoot anywhere than to shoot somewhere.
They’re a bunch of mindless jerks who’ll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes, that’s for sure
Nuke them from orbit - it’s the only way to be sure
So now that’s giant spiders and cable companies?
Don’t you worry about collateral damages?
It’s the only way to be sure!
Game over, man! Game over!
thats cool how money lets you just, reject consequences for years
The one thing I learned at Trump University
Works even better if you dye your skin orange and poop your pants.
That’s not money, that’s being a convenient scapegoat for the people in power.
Sure thing MAGAt trumpet.
The cable lobby loves to bring up rural areas but when we gave them millions to build out they just took the money, said fuck it and did jack shit. I’m beginning to think that they prefer to under serve those areas and then use that as a bargaining chip to get everything they want.
The dumbasses that gave them the money should have made it so the companies did the work FIRST, then get reimbursed when they could prove they finished it. Whole thing was stupid.
Comcast for decades have said on their website they support my parent’s address but they obviously do not since there are no cables on the poles for Internet. We’ve tried calling and asking to fix it and we’ve tried calling to just get someone out so we can prove they don’t service it but each time we scheduled an appointment nobody showed up and when calling back they would say they never set one up. So I’m pretty sure you’re correct.
I am in New England. Looking to buy a home. The amount of area that is not covered at 100/10 is fucking criminal. Like, they upped my price this year. For what? Transferring packets didn’t get more expensive. Did you go e your employees raises? No? Are you expanding your infrastructure? No?
Like what the fuck.
Numerous places I’ve lived had contracts with Comcast so there was no option but them, and the speed is shit, maybe they needed to raise prices to pay for their forced monopolies.
In Australia we watched American ISPs do exactly that and then we did the exact same thing with the exact same result because our politicians are corrupt pieces of shit with no backbone, integrity or ethics.
The power companies in my area started installing fiber on the power lines and running their own ISPs.
No data caps or anything, I’m raw dogging these torrents at like 80 megabytes a second, I even started running my own home server
80 megaBYTES? What part of the US are you in?
Mississippi
I absolutely refuse to measure speeds in bits.
Yeah I’m just surprised how fast that is, dang
Gigabit fiber is a thing, and not at all uncommon in a lot of places.
I almost feel bad for rural people until I realize they’re the ones voting for the people who make sure rural people don’t get services. Redneck America wants to close the USPS for fuck sakes.
My parents live in butt fuck nowhere and are in a fiber co-op paying like $70/month for unlimited 1gbps up/down.
Meanwhile I live in the (extremely left) Capitol City of my state and pay Comcast $165/month for like 175mbps capped at 1TB, with some absurd overage fee like $10/5GB over until I hit $100 over and then it’s “unlimited” but seems throttled.
Let me plug Counter Points, a favorite political show of mine.
They recently talked about FTC Chair Lina Khan and Apple’s monopoly, the government’s anti-trust lawsuit against Apple, and monopolies in general. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMyChnACLKQ
It’s tangential, but it came to mind.
If the cable companies want lawsuits, let’s give them what they want in the form of anti-trust lawsuits and break them up.
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Can’t wait until my liberal city finishes our city owned isp. You can’t trust business to be in control of essential services
Mentioning “liberal” here is a bit stupid. I’ve seen many conservative areas have unmetered gig fiber.
Hell… where I live now is very conservative and I have 8gb uncapped.
I said my liberal city. Wasn’t contrasting it to anything.
Wow, completely missed the key words:
city owned
Speed wasn’t mentioned at all
No. I didn’t. Several of what I’m referencing is city owned. Oops don’t you look stupid now.
Edit: Also you’re linking your politics to companies trustworthiness, as if either side is doing anything worth a damn against shitty companies. Speed is going to be a direct comparison of markets that would outline if those companies are shitty or not… No? In either case you’re being stupidly obtuse in linking these 2 topics.
It’s far more common for Democrat run municipalities to create municipal cable and for Republicans to outlaw (or propose outlawing) municipal cable state wide.
It’s not even politicizing it’s a literal Republican talking point that the government should stay out of things and let free market competition sort these things out.
The problem with that of course is that they’d rather take money from some regional monopolies than actually create a free market system with reasonable restrictions on it.
There was an academic paper put out a long time ago that basically argued for essential services like food, water, etc to be given non-profit status so corpo’s couldn’t do this sort of thing.
how are so many of Joe Brandon’s appointees so good?
Sounds like a good time to switch to 5G internet and cancel cable.
I just wish it wasn’t so latent :(
I’m getting 40 ping is that good or bad?
40 is good. The 5g home internet I had a 6 months ago had around 200ms and I had to go back to cable
Or if it was available most places.
Every piece of shit greedy corporation can’t hide from their lies when they say things are too expensive to implement correctly or pay people appropriately when they are simultaneously posting profits measured in billions…
Those last couple paragraphs with the quotes from ISPs…make no fucking sense. They’re saying it will “restrict access for rural customers.” How? They say it’ll slow internet down across the nation. How? How can ARST.com just run those quotes and not even explain how they’re bullshit or even just call into question their reasoning? Shoddy journalism if you ask me.
“heavy-handed regulation will not just hobble network investment and innovation, it will also seriously jeopardize our nation’s collective efforts to build and sustain reliable broadband in rural and unserved communities”
They said exactly the same thing when the first net neutrality laws were getting put in place, then after the laws went into effect the companies went on to invest record amounts in innovation and infrastructure. Funny how their words are completely meaningless.
Yaknow what does hobble investment and innovation?
It rhymes with “shmonopolies”.
“Innovation” just means ways to milk people these days .
Innovation is part of the executive buzzword bingo board for all announcements.
It doesn’t actually mean anything to these people. The only thing that has weight is what will enrich the wealth of the ownership class (shareholders.)
You mean like “innovating” faster connections speeds that they’ve been withholding from us for decades, but can suddenly flip a switch and advertise faster speeds when another provider competes with them? Yeah, I wouldn’t know anything about that… ;-)
Good, let them use their money on litigation instead of lobbying.
I mean maybe they decided it was going to be easier to buy a judge than another FCC chair?
Are there any past examples of companies getting out of fines that way? Even Facebook had to pay 20Bn, you would think they could have gotten a judge for only 15 if it were so easy.
There are plenty of examples of companies challenging the legality of regulations and winning, and other cases of apparent corruption among judges.
Yes I was asking you to present one case in which an FCC ban or fine was avoided with the courts.
Yup, I’m all for it. Put it in a ballot and we’ll vote to enshrine it into law.
One of my general rules of thumb is: if cable companies are for it, it must suck.
Jessica Rosenworcel is a champ. She has been fighting this fight for years. The week Ajit Pai (Ashit Pie) ended net neutrality using falsified public comments, a group gathered in front of the FCC to protest the change. I went down there for a few hours and Jessica came to the window and waved to us.
Haha oh man it’s weird to see this mentioned so many years later.
I helped organize that protest. Thanks for coming down with us!
Thanks for organizing!
A threat like that should disqualify them from even trying to do it.
You hear that, law school students? Job security! Because lawyers are the ones who really win in situations like this.
