They have become the very same people that once herded them into ghettos.
And herded them into camps to be starved and killed for no reason other than being who they are. Took less than a century to become who they hated the most.
As a wise man once said, if you wonder what you would’ve done during the Holocaust, you’re doing it now.
wut
In elementary school, when the teacher is teaching what the Holocaust was, someone usually raises their hand and asks “Why didn’t anyone do anything?”, hence “What would you do during the Holocaust?”. There’s something equivalent to the Holocaust happening in Gaza, and yet most people aren’t stopping it.
There are things a lot closer to the holocaust happening in other parts of the world, it’s weird that so much people suddenly want to act on Gaza
“Nothing” The answer is nothing
It’s sick that the US voted to give the Zionist regime billions on the same day that mass graves of people executed by Israeli soldiers are being uncovered.
And Blinken shamelessly calls China the muslim genociders.
Blinken has been giving me Kissinger vibes with how much he’s been supporting Israel’s genocide.
We can still prevent that money from being released with the Leahy Law.
But we won’t.
Possible war crimes?? Israel hit war crime bingo in the first month and has been trying to get a full card since!
This will be the news that causes the USA to finally tell Israel to stop, I’m sure.
Israel is a pack of lunatics.
My feeling is the US feels they are too committed now to stop and just hope that Israel will stop by itself soon.
I’m not saying I like it, but it definitely feels like that…
After they just passed a bill to give them more money? I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not but I certainly hope so.
I have bad news about the USA.
I have worse news about China and Russia.
The world really isn’t great right now, is it?
Did you know that the prisoner-per-capita ratio in the US is higher than both Russia and China? In fact, the total number of incarcerated people (ie people in prisons and jails) in the US is 2.25 million. In Russia that number is 433,006 and in China it’s estimated at 1.7 million.
Combined that’s 2.13 million.
Those two “worse” countries combined don’t have as many people incarcerated people as the US.
removed by mod
Kidnapping individuals to use as an organ farm?
Funding various “Confederacy” organisations to undermine developed political countries?
removed by mod
I can’t tell if you’re a bad actor from/for the CCP, or just brainwashed. Either way, it’s sad.
removed by mod
Oh I see, we’re ignoring the atrocities being committed in Ukraine now. That sounds about right for you tankies.
removed by mod
A pack or war criminals.
ThE mOsT mOrAl ArMy In ThE WoRlD
So maybe I missed something but the report doesn’t make it really clear who is to blame for the mass graves or when they were made.
So at this point this could’ve been Hamas or Israel, right?
Any side could be committing genocide, it could be the ones that have completely flattened acres of homes and fly planes to kill civilians or it could be the ones fleeing their land, we just don’t know
lol if that’s your best rebuttal, a blatant false framing of context as if Hamas are these pleasant freedom fighters with no blood on their hands… Then you don’t have much. Tell me, have you even heard what they did on October 7th?
If you perceive Hamas as innocent freedom fighters then you’re naive and duped.
I’m no fan of Israel either. But don’t pretend Hamas wouldn’t do the same if they had the means, and hasn’t done terrible things to its own people.
You’re really claiming all those murdered citizens are Hamas?
Genuinely, is English not your native language? Because that’s quite clearly not what I said.
Is your only move to strawman, and then accuse of strawman? It was no doubt who did this and to who. I have not reframed a single fucking thing
deleted by creator
For real what is it with them, where are they even trying to go with this?
Edit: I mean the Israel army. What is their end goal?
Total victory!
/s
removed by mod
Motherfucker there is NOTHING covert about this shit. This isn’t an extreme position in Israel, genociding Palestinians has been the policy of Israel since it’s inception.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/israel-gaza-genocide
They are open about and proud of it.
Fuck, the IOF too doesn’t give a shit, they bomb their own and treat Palestinians as less then human.
https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/04/1148876
Shut the fuck up.
The political establishment in Israel does not recognize Palestine, their goal has long been the eradication of the Palestinian nation.
I see where people might think that if you’re just looking at the immediate context from the October 7th attacks, but I urge you to look into the conditions Palestinian people had been living under for decades, especially in Gaza. Rather than vengeance, when you look into the history, the October 7th attacks feel more like an excuse to go full throttle into carrying out what the Israeli government and hardcore Zionists already been trying to do for a while now.
I understand it’s easy to blame Hamas and the Palestinian resistance for Israel’s disproportionate and genocidal response, but the second Nakba was long coming.
[June, 2022] How threats of a second Nakba went mainstream https://www.972mag.com/second-nakba-mainstream-israeli-right/
[May, 2023] Why Israel’s leaders call for ‘Second Nakba’ https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/why-israels-leaders-call-for-second-nakba
[Aug, 2023] Why Palestinians Could Be Facing Another Nakba https://www.thenation.com/article/world/palestine-second-nakba/
Additionally worth remembering that the normalization process was nearing its conclusion by October, Israel was well on the path to buying off all of its neighbors and achieving total regional cooperation in the next Nakba.
The extinction of the Gazan population and total annexation. That was the long plan anyhow.
Isn’t it obvious? Genocide. They want to be the next US, Australia, or Canada. Kill all the natives, or enough to make them not a threat anymore, and take all the land for themselves. Only difference we’re supposed to know not to do that anymore.
You’ll notice that the report doesn’t estimate whether they died before or after Israel’s incursion.
Remember to vote Biden btw.
They’re taking tips from Russia
And the Nazis.
They’re being a bunch of jerks.
That hitler guy was really kinda mean
He went too far. There, I said it, downvote me if you must.
You’re being anti-Semitic! /S
Yes but he died a hero.
. . .
(for killing Hitler)
And weapons form the US and cheers from Germany to do it.
Less civilians died over two years in Ukraine than in a month in Gaza. The west is showing the world what real atrocities look like here.
That’s some proper Nazi shit from the “most moral army in the World”.
“most moral army in the world” is a bit like the dryest lake.
No mercy for Israel.
They’d load them onto cattle cars if the ground wasn’t too chewed up from the bombs to ever build a railroad there.
all palestinian violence against israel is self-defense.
Uaing that same logic, you can’t get mad when civilians are bombed then.
Deadassed wrong; Palestine isn’t a settler-colonial abomination. There’s no call for their civilians to be bombed; and if you think there is, you might be a cracker-assed settler who needs to go back to where their ancestors came from
Cracker ass settler is probably the dumbest thing I’ve read online today considering you’re a fucking American that writes everywhere about how evil Amerika is.
You’re a few IQ points short of an actual thought so I’ll just let this one go and chop it up to TikTok brain rot.
Here is a game: Swap the words and see how it sounds. It it still doesn’t sound bad, then your just an idiot and we can’t help you.
All lsraeli violence against Gaza is self defense
Also, based on your previous comments: You are working a dead-end job in the US, complain you are poor, and complain a lot about jews, coon-minstrels, and crackers . Your comments read like a privileged 20-something that can’t figure out to do anything but complain and blame everyone else.
Just like reddit, your comments are public and my god you truly are a walking poster for why not everyone should have children.
Some of your comments are just so asinine and backwards. You’ll complain about zionists and then immediately cry about lore in a video game while saying Amerika is bad while talking about how evil Biden.
You’re a few IQ points short
Opening with eugenics! Bold today, aren’t we?
and complain a lot about jews
If you had the first iota of literacy or reading comprehension, you’d see that my complaining is about Zionists, and that there’s a couple instances of my making sure that I split out a deliberated, principled difference between genocidal Zionists, and the Jews that protest their being used as a shield by those perpetrating the butchering of Palestine. Or are you one of the ones who has to conflate Judaism with Zionism to make the hasbara accusation of antisemitism when public opinion doesn’t go your way?
coon-minstrels
If you were a part of a marginalized, oppressed, still-shackled minority, and you had to watch members of your community sell out to the oppressor, shucking and jiving for them at every turn, you’d be a little bit pissed about it too-- but expecting someone like you to have any kind of empathy is kind of a tall ask; I get it.
crackers
…And? See the previous entry and try to put it together yourself.
You’ll complain about zionists and then immediately cry about lore in a video game
Do you expect anybody to fixate on the world’s ills 24/7? Not even the most diehard anticolonialist, not even the most principled communist is capable of that (and I’m FAR from the most principled, trust that), they’d burn out and become useless to the cause after that. But again, expecting you to know anything about maintenance of one’s principles and staving off the kind of nihilism neoliberalism inflicts on its atomized populace is like trying to explain particle physics to a pigeon. All you get is a shat-on table for your trouble.
Please suckstart a shotgun with your one-day-old profile havin ass; dealing with scratched crackers like you is tiring.
We got a live cracker here
Even willingly targeting civilians?
You mean IDF veterans and reservists?
It’s sad that some children died, but collateral damage is inevitable in war and there’s no proof that Hamas deliberately killed children (unlike Israel, which has murdered over 12,300 children - higher than the last 4 years of wars combined!)
Yes. As any civvy would be in their territory at this point
If a German occupied my home during 1940, I’m telling you he wouldn’t be a civilian to me. He’d be a complacent thief. A low life settler.
Israelis are willingly targeting civilians. Where is your hand wringing about that?
I would also mention them if everyone here was not already doing that.
I don’t think Hamas has sniper drones shooting children coming and going from hospitals in Israel
Settlers are occupiers and therefore, not civilians.
Including people who didn’t really decide on where to live, like their children?
It’s tragic, but that’s what happens when your state primarily defends itself with human shields.
Which state are you talking about?
Palestine is a country, not a state.
In my main language those are often confused, so let me rephrase, which country?
Adults who were born in Israel, yes, children, no, but your handwringing is funny, since dead Israeli toddlers are purely hypothetical, and you clearly give no fucks about dead Palestinian babies.
Stick your hand in a blender and turn it on.
you clearly give no fucks about dead Palestinian babies.
I do. Mentioning civilian victims on Israeli an side doesn’t mean I don’t care about civilian victims on Palestinian side, this point was simply already covered largely.
Also please refrain from personal attacks and other violence threats.
You: actively defending genocide
Also you: PLZ NO PERSONAL ATTACKS CIVILITY IS IMPORTANT
No, I am not defending the war crimes of Israeli army nor the ones of Hamas. Just read what I wrote, there’s no more to imagine.
What my comrades said, and also, stick your other hand in the blender too
Including people who didn’t really decide on where to live, like their children?
Well that’s an interesting moral line in the sand to draw in this case.
https://visualizingpalestine.org/visual/six-wars-old/
I think wanting to avoid innocent civilian deaths is a moral line that is valid for both sides.
While I agree with that, it doesn’t feel like your question to the other commenter carries quite the weight in this specific context as it might in others given that neither side has been clean about this, and it’s not the Palestinian side that has intentionally blown up a playground within the past week.
I do generally think it’s hard to equate the two fairly in this context, given the power differential between the two forces and their relative capabilities to be discerning if they so chose.
I apologize if I misunderstood you, but there is no both sides here. The united nations recognizes the right to armed struggle against occupation.
UNGA Resolution 37/43 (1982) reaffirmed the “inalienable right” of the Palestinian people “and all peoples under foreign and colonial domination” to self-determination. It also reaffirmed the legitimacy of “the struggle of peoples for […] liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means, including armed struggle.”
It even mentions the Palestinian struggle explicitly.
Why would there be Israeli children inside places like the West Bank or Gaza?
Because they were reborn there or moved by their parents.
Why would an Israeli family be living in the West Bank or Gaza? And who would be more likely to be killing their children, Israeli occupation forces or Palestinian resistance to the occupation forces?
That’s a pretty serious claim. Do you have any evidence to support it?
I find different sources saying about 30 children were murdered, but given that some bodies were mutilated or burnt the counts are not obvious. https://www.factcheck.org/2023/11/dozens-of-children-died-in-hamas-oct-7-attack-on-israel-contrary-to-online-claim/
This is fake and discredited
Killed by who?
A separate report published in Haaretz noted that the Israeli military was “compelled to request an aerial strike” against its own facility inside the Erez Crossing to Gaza “in order to repulse the terrorists” who had seized control. That base was filled with Israeli Civil Administration officers and soldiers at the time.
An Israeli woman named Yasmin Porat confirmed in an interview with Israel Radio that the military “undoubtedly” killed numerous Israeli noncombatants during gun battles with Hamas militants on October 7. “They eliminated everyone, including the hostages,” she stated, referring to Israeli special forces.
While being held by the Hamas gunmen, Porat recalled, “They did not abuse us. We were treated very humanely… No one treated us violently.”
She added, “The objective was to kidnap us to Gaza, not to murder us.”
https://thegrayzone.com/2023/10/27/israels-military-shelled-burning-tanks-helicopters/
I’m aware that some of the hostages that were taken were children. All accounts suggest that they were treated well, for hostages anyway. Its important to recognize that the Zionist regime keeps thousands upon thousands of Palestinian hostages, many of which are children. The Zionists could have negotiated an exchange, ensuring the safe return of all Israeli hostages. Instead, they decided to bomb the living shit out of Gaza, pretty much ensuring their demise.
Settlers use human shields.
If a civilian comes at you with a weapon, trying to kill you, are they still a civilian?
If a civilian stands in front of relief trucks, sending food/medicine/clothes/tents while the military destroys food/medicine/homes, are they still a civilian?
If a civilian cheers every time one of their country’s soldiers shoots a random person or when a bomb in dropped on a hospital, or when missiles are fired at the places went to get away from the fighting, are they still a civilian?
'Cause, from where I’m sitting, being okay with slaughtering people kinds makes it seem like they aren’t ‘innocent’ in this.
I don’t think this applies to the general understanding of innocent civilians indeed.
So now it switches from civilians to “innocent” civilians.
There are no civilians in Israel; every settler is a combatant by virtue (ha) of their theft.
And before you start pearl-clutching and morally peacocking like I know you would if not for this addendum; no, I do not factor Israeli children into my calculus. It sucks for them that their parents decided to either become, or carry on the family tradition of being settler scum; but does Israel ever consider Palestinian children? No. They don’t. Israel calls Palestinian children Hamas when it suits them; ergo, I don’t consider Israeli children. At all.
