See, I’m not real big on facebook, but I have an account because I live a considerable distance from when I am from. (Also because marketplace is nice.)
Lately those cockballs have been refollowing people I have unfollowed and it is a clusterfuck on there now. I just have to ignore the feed because it’s full of trump shit and religious shit yet again.
All news is fake news.
All comments are fake comments.
I made this one up!
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Given how FB’s algorithm stacks their feed and hides real information, that’s not surprising.
My mom was permabanned from Facebook in 2020 for constantly posting anti-vax nonsense so she just went to places like Gab and Parlor. 😑
Truth depends on whoever you’re buying it from.
Damn, you’re so enlightened.
How do you decide which sources are credible? I can’t decide. Literally everything can be faked, and the more there is on the line, the more incentive and resources there are to do so.
What important stuff do you think there is that isn’t faked? How do you decide that it’s not fake?
Damn near everything you’ve ever accepted as true is stuff you were told or read and just accepted it based on how it was presented.
“I can’t decide”
yes, we are all well aware of how dumb you are. Your stupidity is becoming quite well known on Lemmy.
I believe that some popular news organizations are sufficiently trustworthy. At the very least, you can find sources that rank higher than others on the scale of trustworthiness.
This is why, in a lot of universities, they’re trying to teach you how to learn, not necessarily how you should think.
We need to be able to examine the claims for ourselves and learn what red flags look like.
And a lot of the time we mix up “facts” with “opinions”. Even when we are looking at facts, most of the time there are lies mixed with truth or conveniently forgotten truths. If we only get our information from a single source, or from biased sources, then we’re going to miss some key information.
That’s why it’s good to make sure that you look at any story (especially politicized ones) from different angles and sources even if you don’t agree with them.
Not only that but it can be enlightening to hear about a story from someone who’s much more intimately familiar with the subject themselves.
For example, whenever it comes to news stories about the Supreme Court, I like to look for commentary from lawyers such as Steve Lehto or Legal Eagle. You’ll find that they typically provide some very important context into why a particular decision was made that cuts through a lot of the outrage material that reporters push for clicks.
Truth is truth, how it is described may be subjective. But there is still only one truth.
And lies are lies. How do you decide which is which?
Yowza. My dad did the same until he died (shockingly, of COVID), so I just wanted to say I’m sorry. I know what it’s like having a crazy parent and it sucks.
I still have Facebook but pretty much just for messaging… and honestly I don’t even check it.
I had 6 unread messages and 30 plus notifications when I checked a moment ago.
Pretty happy with the results.
PROPAGANDA. Please use the actual word. Why use two words when one do trick?
From Wikipedia:
Propaganda is communication that is primarily used to influence or persuade an audience to further an agenda, which may not be objective and may be selectively presenting facts to encourage a particular synthesis or perception, or using loaded language to produce an emotional rather than a rational response to the information that is being presented.
Propaganda isn’t always fake news, it can also be true stuff presented in a biased way.
Similarly, fake news isn’t always propaganda. Some is just stuff spread by trolls to make fun of people.
Propaganda isn’t always fake news, it can also be true stuff presented in a biased way.
It can also be true stuff presented in an unbiased way. There’s a disconnect here between the proper definition of the word, which is perfectly neutral, and its connotations because the what secretary for tsunami safety doesn’t call their stuff “propaganda” but “public service announcement”. Still the same thing, though, the tsunami safety secretary is trying to persuade the audience to not be stupid and get to high ground as soon as the sea recedes. Very much pushing an agenda, they *gasp* want people to survive and *gasp* use communication to achieve it.
Can it? I searched a bit and all the definitions I’ve found seem to be about swaying public opinion, not simple objective announcements.
It does have a negative connotation even though it can be used for good, but I still don’t think purely objective messages like “a tsunami is coming, get to high ground” should count as propaganda.
What about things like this?
Which btw yes certainly has editorialising going on. The answer to “Useless projects are funded with EU money” starts with “National and regional authorities in the EU countries select projects which they think meet their needs best in line with the strategies and priorities agreed with the Commission.” Which isn’t saying that EU money doesn’t found useless projects, but implicitly blames regional authorities for it. I don’t even think they want to mislead, here, they simply want to stay diplomatic.
(This video about the canopy walk is brilliant. (enable subtitles)).
I think that qualifies as propaganda too: its intention is to improve the public opinion of the Cohesion policy by clearing misconceptions.
(About the “project” in the video… what the hell? I had to Google it because I wasn’t convinced it was a real thing. Just why?)
Corruption, that’s why. Similar to how the Italian mafia would half-build highway bridges with taxpayer money and then mysteriously have some shell company go bankrupt. OLAF is on it because of course they are when stuff makes the press. If they have a case EPPO will take over at which point that Hungarian mayor will have the questionable honour of being up against the gal who cleaned up Romania… before Hungarian courts. If those turn out to be corrupt then that’s going to buy the mayor time but ultimately the ECJ would overrule them. Still no mechanism to actually set boots on member state grounds but Hungary is already on thin ice when it comes to getting suspended from the EU for various reasons, they’re going to tread lightly.
See if you want to be corrupt in the EU you have to do it like the big boys: Implement some policy, then get a cushy job at a company. Or receive tons of money for boring private speeches. Something like that, directly grabbing into state coffers is so uncivilised.
EDIT: Oh, Hungary didn’t join EPPO, figures. They can still freeze assets, though. Also if I understand things correctly our mayor would turn into a fugitive in the rest of the EU.
Yes, I figured but… isn’t that a bit too obvious? Surely there had to be a less blatant way of laundering money than… a treetop walk with no trees?
Don’t turn off Facebook! Mark has a Yacht to feed!
The last time I logged on to Facebook was this past fall because there was a death in our fairly tight knit group of high school classmates. It had been three or four years since I’d been in there.
So I went on and said my words.
While I was there, I didn’t really notice what was in my feed.
What I noticed was suddenly I was getting notification after notification that my posts from years and years ago were getting deleted because they didn’t fit whatever the current terms and conditions of use were.
This amused me.
So I left my words of dead classmate up for a week then sent my account silent again.
I can’t see Facebook or any social media being a place I ever hang out again, which is a little bit of a bummer because without any social media, IRL social activities all but come to an immediate and total halt.
Oh well. I’ll live.
I disabled my account four years ago when I realized how much plague stupidity and election stupidity on there was harming my mental health.
I doubt I will ever formally delete my account, as it’s the only source for pictures of some now-deceased family members. If hell freezes over and there’s a legit unavoidable need for me to be on there, I’m using desktop+web browser only, and probably in a browser that only gets used for the monthly visit to FB.
Can’t you download those pictures locally? It would be good practice anyway to not rely on Facebook of all places to host your beloved photos indefinitely
Be careful, I logged out for too long and forgot my password and they wanted a copy of my driver’s license before letting me have access to my account.
it’s the only source for pictures of some now-deceased family members
Download them ASAP. You can never trust an external service like that to keep them available in perpetuity.
Shut it down like Tiktok. Those platforms are brainwashing people into believing far right and far left ideas.
I’ve seen quite a few commies on Lemmy. Just saying.
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But, but I like far left ideas. The pictures about people dancing in circles, living in communities without the need of money, make me giggle.
Time to start a Facebook account. /s
That isn’t far left though.
More like overthrowing governments, disbanding corporations, abolishing personal properties, completely removing currency, controlling speech, …
I myself am a socialist, but what you describe is closer to centre left than far left.
Okay my comment was a little bit sarcastic, but there is some truth in it. Removing currency and removing private property isnt that bad. How would we live then? You just have your skills and trade/offer them every day against the skills of someone else, who makes food for example. No third person would make profit of your trade. Sounds better then what we have actually. Today the Top 10% literally do nothing and get all things they want.
But removing everything sounds odd, I know. Let’s start simple: how about it isn’t allowed to have more than 1 mio. Dollars. I mean 1 mio. is a lot. If you have more you pay 100% tax. Nobody needs more than 1 mio.
Btw “controlling speech” is one of the far right favourites, not left.
We tried the “trade your skills for something you need”. In every surviving society it eventually lead to the development of a currency (not hard to see why), which requires/leads to regulation, which requires enforcement, aaaand you’re back at a modern society. I’m all for more regulation to reduce economic and social differences in society, but the people that are talking about abolishing governments and currencies need to pick up a history book and follow their ideas to their natural conclusion.
“Controlling speech” is a hallmark of authoritarian governments, be they far-left or far-right, there are plenty of historical examples of both.
Yes those are the problematic fantasies that corporate social media is brainwashing people towards. Too many of the youth are wasting their time on fantasies of revolution when they could be acting within the scope of reality to achieve something actually meaningful.
They would be better off actually working instead of wasting their time protesting and getting useless degrees
I think Tiktok can often be creative and informative, which Facebook is definitely not though. I don’t use Tiktok but what people have sent me have usually been funny.
Damn those far left ideals like liveable wages!
Can we start some viral alliteration to get people off Facebook for a few weeks? Or maybe get them more mindful of their social media consumption?
Make Memories Matter May?
Just Journal June?
Just Jibe July?
Authentic August?
Send Stamps September?
Offline October?
No Negativity November?
How about Analogue August or Stop Scrolling September?
I’ll also say, Offline October is pretty dang good.
I’d vote for Anal August for sure!
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legit offline October is great, and works as a grassroots movement. I’m having an “offline October” is akin to when my friends and I do Dry July. I’m going to start doing this (despite the fact that I haven’t used social media in 2 years)
Gotta spin the news so it makes it more appealing. Good way to spin the headline is it “reboots your bullshit detector”.
Has to be fully grassroots though. I don’t think many influencers will promote it, they’re the most addicted and it’s literally their livelihood.
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There’s something on the tip of my tongue. Something like ____ Zuck. Something that rhymes, and expresses how I feel about him and his platform. I just can’t quite put my finger on it…
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It’s been since 2020 that I stopped browsing Facebook
What took you so long? 😉
YouTube is getting particularly bad about this to, unfortunately. They need to do more to remove harmful misinformation, but they don’t care because it won’t make them money.
I’ve had to remove a lot of recommendations. Man, PragerU, Crowder, Shapiro and Joe Rogan were in my feeds. Jeez.
The unfortunate thing is a lot of people won’t remove it from their recommendations and will watch it, and the worse thing is there’s actually even worse content than those you listed, it’s awful.
For real. Not logged in, on a new PC, just having watched a few gaming videos and got recommended US right wing nonsense. I am not in the US, no VPN, nothing. No ability to tell them to stop showing me that garbage. Hell, just let me disable shorts in general.
It really sucks that YT has such shit “don’t show me stuff” controls. Sometimes it feels like asking to not get recommended a certain channel will instead show all the alternatives that feel and look just like it
I have blocked so many right wing channels that my de facto suggestions after watching political shit is Zach gun rants, Arma ops, and Animarchy or one of the other NAFO associates. Its fucken great.
Youtube is good as a video hosting website, but bad as anything social-related. I just treat it like a video website and ignore the rest. Private browsing mode, no login used is my preferred way to access youtube videos
Honestly I prefer having an account specifically so I can filter out the garbage fake harmful dangerous content so I don’t have to see it.
That is not surprising at all. That’s like saying laying off the conspiracy theory conventions for a while reduces your belief in conspiracy theories.
