City boy checking in.

So, this one time out on a hike in a semi-rural area, the trail opened out on a grassy riverbank kind of place, and there were a dozen or so cows between me and the path onwards.

Now, I mostly grasp which end of a cow the grass goes in, but that’s about my limit; I have no real idea how they operate IRL.

I ended up carefully edging my way past them and gave them as much space as I possibly could, and got extremely stared at by all of them, who probably thought I was nuts.

Just out of curiosity - how careful did I need to be? Can you just like walk through the middle of them, or would that be asking for trouble?

  • dudeami0
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    From my understanding, you are pretty safe as long as you don’t provoke them (walking through the middle of them might be considered provoking) or near their calves. This article from the UK states “Where recorded, 91% of HSE reported fatalities on the public were caused by cows with calves”. Basically, mothers with a child are going to be very protective.

    Cows are a domesticated creature, so they are generally docile, but I would exercise caution because if need be they will use their mass and strength against you. I’ve heard of stories of farmers running from cows and narrowly escaping under a fence. Most of these did involve a farmer trying to separate a calve from it’s mother. I’ve also heard stories of cows jumping fences.

    And as far as memes go:

  • @Crisps@lemmy.world
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    Cows kills more people each year than sharks.

    I mean when did you ever here of a cow killing a shark.

  • @Ziggurat@sh.itjust.works
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    Paraglider pilot here, so I landed among the cow my fair share of times.

    Cows are curious but shy, if you walk slowly they might come to have a look, if they get too close, something like clapping your hands is enough to have them running away. However, if the farmer didn’t took the veals the yet, they can be pretty agressive to protect their kids, in that case forgot what I said about “clapping your hand” and stay away from the herd. Note also that bull are less shy than cow.

  • @englislanguage@lemmy.sdf.org
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    In addition to the other comments here: Don’t run near cows. Quite often, they will start running with you, which is very impressive and dangerous at the same time. Cows generally are faster than you for the first few hundred meters at least.

  • @CarlCook@feddit.de
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    It really depends on what breed and how they were raised. In the Alps, there are almost anually reports of wanderers being attacked or even killed by cows. They often are with their calves for a longer time, are less accustomed to (strange) people and usually a fully intact male is in the heard that can get really protective.

    Approach them with caution, watch their behaviour closely and use common sense. That’s what I do and for me that works.

    • @anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      I had quite the opposite experience in the alps, we have hiked within meters cows because the heard was laying and standing on the path. I have never seen very young calves or bulls on the mountains.

      • @CarlCook@feddit.de
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        Well, then you were lucky. I‘ve been hiking off the beaten paths and more than once forced me an agitated bull to detour as he would not let me near his herd.

  • @Professorozone@lemmy.world
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    Don’t know anything about this from personal experience, but I thought I heard a report a while back about a fairly large number of hikers in the UK injured or killed by cows. So I’m guessing, not as dangerous as crocodiles but still best to be careful.

  • @gnu@lemmy.zip
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    I never had a problem with walking around cows as a kid and I did it pretty often. Visitors would get spooked occasionally because cows love to follow you and see what you’re up to, but I never got chased or anything. That was beef cattle country though so these cows were mainly cows (female) and steers (castrated males). I’ve heard that some bulls could be territorial however so your mileage may vary if one is around - the couple I’ve walked around were fine but your chances of issues are higher with them.

  • Lvxferre [he/him]
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    They’re mostly safe. Don’t taunt them, don’t get too close to them (specially not to veals and bulls), and eventually they’ll see you as “safe to ignore”.

  • Th4tGuyII
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    Cows, sure. Just don’t startle them or go near their calfs. They’re mostly just curious.

    Bulls, only if you have to, but make it quick and stay as far away from them as you can. They’re fiercely territorial and not afraid to show it.

  • @samus12345@lemmy.world
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    1810 months ago

    This reminded me of a time I went up and petted a cow and it turned and gave me the most wide-eyed horrified stare I’ve ever seen. I felt bad.

  • @empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Depends very heavily on the cows. Cattle rancher here. Be careful about it and *most cattle are OK to walk among.

    Generally speaking, most farm cattle are timid towards people. They may come check you out and encircle you as a herd, but will usually scurry away if you move suddenly, and don’t care if you’re just in the field with them. They are herbivorous herd/prey animals, after all. The cattle my parents raise, perfectly safe to walk through. Hell the calves will often come up and sniff you out and rub up against you.

    Some remote range cattle can be more wild. They might take off running if they see you within a half mile, or they might come running towards you if they deem you a threat.

    The real danger often lies with bulls (hanging balls and huge shoulder) or cows with young calves (<1mo old). Both of these can be very unpredictable.
    I’ve interacted with some bulls that were as gentle as can be and some that would rip your skin off if you weren’t on the other side of a panel. You should never go into a paddock with an unknown bull, ever.
    And even the most timid cow can start squaring up if she has a very young calf still in need of protection.

    It’s something you mostly have to learn how to read. Cows are expressive. They have body language. They speak with their head and their tails, and they look with their ears. For me it’s easy to tell if a cow is safe to approach, but it is a learned skill.

    When you approach cows, make noise. Nothing racocious but just talking in a firm tone to them is enough. Make sure the herd olknows your approaching long before you get close enough to be a danger, never suprise a cow. Always keep a distance of minimum 30 feet unless they approach you themselves out of curiosity.

    A head and/or tail held very high means they are alert and focused on you, this usually means they are nervous and about to fight-or-flight. Back off slowly and try not to turn away.
    If a herd dispersed while grazing begins to bunch up together, that also means they’re getting nervous. Just avoid the bunch and walk away from whatever direction they’re heading.

    A head held low while looking at you, or still grazing means they are relaxed. They dont usually lower their head to “charge” like in the cartoons until they’re already moving. You’re new to the field so they’ll always look at you. Move smoothly and steadily, they won’t bother you.

    • bean
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      310 months ago

      I love this post. Thanks for sharing all that!

    • @RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com
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      Me as a kid: running away from a curious cow

      The cow, running behind me: “wait, I want to check you out! What are we running away from anyways?”

      • @empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Haha yeah they’ll do that. They can be insufferably curious.

        I remember one time one of our border collie pups (not old enough to work but just getting introduced to the herd) got away from my mom. The cows all came over to check her out and she took off with the whole herd right after her!
        She wasn’t that interested in working much after that…

        • @RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com
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          Me and my sister got encircled once by about ten cows while we wanted to visit our pony which was on the same absurdly big pasture. As they closed in, our little Shetland pony raced in to our rescue and showed them who’s boss in seconds. That was surprising in multiple ways. Especially as I didn’t expect ponies to be that protective to their scratch givers.

          I hope your dog was able to overcome the trauma with time and therapy 😅

          • @Zonetrooper@lemmy.world
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            Small horses, like small dogs, are herd animals, are utterly convinced they are ten times their actual size, and will show this off at any opportunity.

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            Oh yeah, she’s fine now. She was young and impressionable, wasn’t hard to get her used to going back out there in better circumstances.

        • @Shapillon@lemmy.world
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          With both horses and cows, the stupidest most effective way to make them come see you is turning your back to them amd fiddle with your hands while looking busy.

          That’s how curious they are. I really like that trait of character.

    • DarkThoughts
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      If OP walks there frequently then he could also start to befriend them. Offer them some grass, give them some pets & head scratches. Cows are pretty social and usually friendly animals. So if you’re nice to them, they’ll be nice to you too, but most importantly learn that you’re no threat to them.

  • @Brkdncr@lemmy.world
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    If there was a calf or bull around I wouldn’t walk through.

    You can yell at them and they might disperse. If they don’t then you’d be able to walk through them.

    Cows just don’t like to be startled, that’s about it.

    • Fleppensteyn
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      Where would you come across a bull though? I’ve never seen one in a field with cows.

  • @abbadon420@lemm.ee
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    Cows are usually very curious and nice. You have to remember that they are wild animals though and unpredictable. They could kill you by sitting on you.

    If you act natural, don’t make any sudden movements, than you’re good. Also get out of the way, because they will just run over you. Especially in spring, when they get out of the barn for the first time since fall. They’re blinded by the light and a little spring crazy.

    Bulls are a different matter. You they’re less sweet.

  • @Skkorm@lemmy.world
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    We used to rent our farmland to the neighbors for their cows and horses. We would periodically have to go out there and do work on fences and the barn and stuff. I was always told that horses are not to be trusted, but the cows are probably fine.

    Take that information and do with it as you will.