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Jesus, that is a gross way to inject advertising into turn-by-turn navigation.
Edit/update from 9to5google so this post does not spread what is apparently inaccurate information: https://9to5google.com/2024/07/08/google-maps-pop-up-quick-detour-ad/
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Thanks I hate it. Also not even new, this shit was what killed in dash sat navs…
Nitpicking, but I’m not sure that it was ads that killed dash sat navs. At least in my experience, they never really developed to that point where car companies would put ads in.
It was more that they were expensive options to install, a pain to keep updated, and generally weren’t all that good.
Even before the live traffic and automatic detour features, phones didn’t cost money to keep the onboard maps up to date, and you already had one, so you didn’t need to either buy an add-on, or get a special unit for it.
With android CarPlay and Apple Auto, you could just put your phone map on the screen, which was basically the same thing, but a cheaper equivalent, since the hardware was on your phone instead.
So I was around during this time and yes ads did play a part in this, but not like you think. The ads where how these companies planned to pay for the sat nav data (came on a DVD). They had restaurant and gas station suggestion with the same detour “feature”.
Fun part is that it fell apart quick since almost no one updated there sat nav and you can still get a 2008 acura with recommendations for places long long gone. Its also fun to see people talking about Zagat rated places on forums from the time.
https://acurazine.com/forums/4g-tl-audio-bluetooth-electronics-navigation-294/zagat-guide-questions-833757/
I’m absolutely certain that it wasn’t ads that put a firm like TomTom on a downward slope. This was actually the first time that I’ve heard someone proclaim that ads are the reason.
If your business is to sell maps + navigation devices for money and then the times change and now nearly everyone already owns a smartphone with built in gps + some car manufacturers provide sat nav as a default + another company is giving access to a map away for free, well then your business is in trouble.
I’ve never even heard of ads in TomTom or Garmin, since I stopped using a dedicated sat nav once I had a smartphone, but it wouldn’t surprise me if it was one of the things they tried to stay afloat after smartphones became ubiquitous.
They were just way waaay to expensive to update. I remember having to jail brake it and sideload updates.
Yeah that’s just unsafe. You’re gonna make me have to reroute my GPS while I’m driving? No thanks.
Crazy watching Google kill themselves in real time.
Time to switch to open street maps
This is possibly the worst thing to add to turn by turn navigation. Especially when I’m in a hurry.
Oh wait, I don’t drive. But still, this can affect lots of people who do.
I have an iPhone and while I don’t like Apple Maps, I will absolutely switch to it in a heartbeat if this is added.
I’ve preferred Apple Maps for a few years now, Googles used to be top of the game but it’s fallen off while Apple’s have IME improved
Same here. I have been happy with Apple Maps.
I was an early adopter for Waze and helped them build and fix their maps. I loved Waze. Several months after Google bought Waze, I repeatedly noticed battery draining faster and location was more frequently being used by Waze. I wrote to them about it. After some time passed and no response or change, I ditched them.
It’s gotten so much better. Once they brought offline maps I made the full switch.
It happened to me yesterday in SoCal and I immediately switched to Apple Maps. Will try OSMand Maps & Magic Earth that I just set up
PSA: Apple Maps used to suck badly but now it’s way better than Google Maps.
The only thing Apple Maps lacks now is a Waze-like ability to report hazards, speed-traps, road closures etc.apparently that’s been a thing for a few years now, thanks!I’ll have to check it out where I am, but I have a feeling that there might not be a big enough active user base to sufficiently crowd source the datapoints… I guess, be the change you want to see in the world!
You can report hazards, speed checks, and crashes in Apple Maps.
Huh, TIL - thanks!
I’ve updated my original comment to reflect this.
Bought iPhone last year.
Tried Apple Maps the first week.
Put in address to friend’s new condo building.
Took me to a parking lot behind a grocery store next to the building, and then acted like I could drive through an old wooden fence to get to the condos.
5/10 I only had to drive to the other end of the block to find the only entrance to the property.
At one point Google Maps moved my whole apartment building/address three streets from where it should be. It was wrong for months even though I reported it when I had to keep telling delivery people that got misdirected because they used it to navigate. Anecdotal evidence etc.
OpenStreetMaps clients also works and are available everywhere
Thats what I use now
Any recommendations for an iOS client?
Organic Maps ist nice. It‘s a fork of Maps…Me before they added all the bloat, I think.
I’m sorry but as long as Apple Maps rely on and force you to install the Yelp app for reviews, I’m never using it.
They’re moving away from that, only using Yelp for backfill when they have no data. There is instead a “thumbs up/down” set of buttons (because the 5-star system is uselessly Boolean anyway). Contribute to the ecosystem by rating places using this, and eventually it will reach parity with Google.
LOL
Apple Maps sure had a rough start back in the day, but I will always use that over Google/Waze. It’s just so much better now and no worries about this type of junk.
Apple Maps fuckin sucked ass at first, now it hasn’t failed me in years.
You’re completely right. I won’t use any other map thing now.
RIP MapQuest
“Google have borrowed this idea form Waze” doesn’t Google own Waze ?
"Google has been testing this idea in Waze "
Last I knew, yeah. Google bought them years ago. Moreover, I don’t remember that “feature” being in Waze before Google acquired them. Those ads were the biggest reason I dropped Waze a while back.
Have never seen an ad on waze
Is this a joke?
Half the icons on the screen are Dunkin Donuts or McDonald’s and any time you stop at a light a banner add covers have the screen.
Haven’t used Waze in like 8 years, but it was bloated and then.
You don’t see ads if you use Waze on Android Auto
Maybe it is regional?
Must be. All i get are popup exit warnings when sound is off
If you’re using a device or network-wide ad-blocker like I do, then you won’t see them. When I try to use Waze on somebody else’s phone, the ads are unbearable.
Stallman was right
Why not? Their global emissions are already skyrocketing due to AI hype. Fuck the planet, let’s make more money this quarter!!!
Screw off.
That was killed quickly.
This is the last product I still make sacrifice to keep it working on my degoogled devices, because lets be honest, this is the best (“free”) GPS there is out there. I’ve tried so many others but nothing comes close. I dunno what I’ll do if (when) they launch this kind of crap here…
Organic Maps is good enough for most cases. Did you try that?
Magic Earth works really great for me :)
Google also notices a spike in Google searches for “alternative to Google maps”…ignores it.
