Edit:
The poll stopped me in my tracks but it’s actually even worse.
It should not take this long to get to imdb
Edit2: didn’t even realize it thinks I’ll “love it” based on things I look up. I don’t think I’d like it.
Edit³: IMDb was the example I used without thinking. I’m aware that there’s a link to it in the top card. It’s the other web results that I don’t already know about that I’d like to see. I now know there’s a hidden “web” tab. There’s also https://www.google.com/search?udm=14&q=example` but it’s still mildly infuriating that you have to know about these things to get the basic results we expected for years.
Getting results without scrolling? That day is today.
Totally worth the subscription
I was a bit skeptical about paying for search, but after trying out the free plan, I subbed and later upgraded to the family plan. No regrets.
DDG / Kagi
To be fair. All the information for the movie is right there at the top. If you wanted just info about the movie.
The poll though… Ya… That’s kinda crazy.
You’d think that if you knew the answer to the poll question, you wouldn’t have Googled the title of the movie. I just don’t understand the thought process that led to this happening.
If you’ve seen a movie you wouldn’t search for it?
Not really, unless I wanted to know more about a specific part of it, like an explanation for a scene or the screen writer or wherever, and then I’d Google with keywords specific for that, not just the movie name. If I’m just searching a movie name it would probably be too know whether stuff Google throws up on top of their results, to be fair to them.
Love the podcast, yeah.
I continue to be one of the happiest customers for Kagi, a service that I am so happy to pay (for my family as well).
To be clear, there are some widgets that might be useful in some cases, but it should not be all you see (and it should definitely not include similar stuff as if the focus for any search is just to find more stuff to consume and please advertisers…).
100% agree. I’ve been using Kagi for a bit over a month now and I love it. My one and only complaint is business hours can be harder to find - I have to actually click into their website for it. That’s it though! Everything else is dramatically less painful in my opinion. I don’t need business hours frequently enough for it to matter though, and if needed I can use Google for that one thing.
Kagi has been a breath of fresh air
Completely agree, I started seeing business hours popping up lately, I know that they know it’s an area of improvement.
It’s a premium service but it has very nice features and is a good product overall.
I use kagi as well and love it. Worth every dime.
People that say they can’t see themselves paying for Search underestimate the value of clean high quality search results.
I’m a business owner and developer of firmware for esoteric products. I need high quality, powerful searches that don’t waste my time. Kagi is great for that. I created lenses on Kagi that I can use to focus my searches, a great time saver for me.
Kagi’s ceo statements makes me hate it
I am not a fan of some of his ideas either, especially the ones tending towards libertarianism. Some other ideas instead are quite decent, like how he thinks companies should give back to the community. He also built a tech company without VC funding and with a good share of ownership for workers (which I think is nice), without any marketing (which I despise as industry) and generally without the predatory nature that 98% of tech companies have nowadays.
I am sure you are referring to the Brave debacle of months back, and FWIW, I agree with his position on that particular issue. Anyway, considering that I have no ideas about the positions for the CEOs/founders of the alternatives, I think it’s still a very worthy compromise to have a good product (incl. nonfunctional qualities like privacy, ecological impact etc.).
Getting 670k from a few private investors aint vc?
I havent heard about the brave debacle but some other comments ive seen make me really not trust this ceo
No, 670k from 42 investors means less than 20k of investment per investor. 670k is already a number ridiculously small for VC funding, but 20k is basically nothing.
Also, after just a few years, 37 employees and 30k users the company became profitable, which is an insanely low period/scale for usual VC funded tech companies.
Seeing only (edit…) two to three // results per scroll is way too cramped.
I miss the early 2000s when you’d get like 15 or 20 search results a page on a 1280 monitor because hosts weren’t BLIND.
Tbf there’s a link to imdb on the first image
Yeah I usually like the Google boxes in search results, but this is so excessive. Everything after and including the polls is just completely unnecessary
It sucks, yes. But, if you select the “web” tab instead of the “all” tab at the top of the page, you’ll get something more akin to what you’re looking for. There’s probably even a way to script it so that it defaults to that view.
The tab that you have to scroll past shopping to know it even exists.
Yep! So convenient /s
You used Google
What did you expect?
I knew this would come up. At least I’m on Firefox with UBO.
The polls are completely idiotic but I personally find info cards to be quite helpful.
The info cards are a cancer on the internet. They exist only so you stay on Google’s page and don’t follow a link to another site.
They exist only so you stay on Google’s page and don’t follow a link to another site.
That may be true, but I’d say in the neighborhood of 1/3 - 1/2 of my searches are answered by auto-compiled info cards or similar artifacts.
Just by way of example, my wife and I were casually researching cars lately, and one of the criteria is “does the damn thing fit in our garage??” Typing “Mazda CX-9 length” and having that specific info presented immediately is immensely preferable to clicking into edmonds.com and scrolling through an entire table of specifications.
Until the provided data is wrong
Are those the Results of the Search of the Rise of the Return of the Planet of the Apes?
I switched to DuckDuckGo on all my devices and I get shocked that people can’t find anything when they search.
Momentum’s a bitch. I’ve been using google search since I lost touch with Jeeves and that pile of dogs ran away.
…dogs?
Here’s duckduckgo result for comparison
Here is Kagi. It is customizable, so it will look different for everyone.
Did you move your videos section? Mine is at the top (but I’m also on mobile)
I don’t recall editing placement, only filtering sources from the search.
Here’s AskJeeves result for comparison
Damn, I knew Jeeves had fallen but this is actually baffling.
That’s spectacularly bad.
Yeah I have no idea what any if that is! I miss Jeeves :(
Wow, that’s incredibly bad.
'Member when they said ‘don’t be evil’?
all of us ‘you cant keep relying on corporations, they will betray you, every single corporate product you consume is basically the one ring’ open source nerds get to say the MOST satisfying “I told you so”'s. nobody cares, of course, you’ll all keep using this shit, but it feels SO good.
open source nerds need to keep their fucking mouths shut until they deliver a end-user grade linux distro.
It’s been 25 fuckdamn years already…
I mean, we do, and there are different philosophies of computing that have different effects on users, and the philosophy that users should be infantilized and USED instead of grown and nurtured as peddled by shit heads like steve jobs is exemplified by all the enshittification currently dominating every single thing you’ve bought in the last decade that had so much as an RFID chip in it.
but also, it would be great if windows would deliver an end user grade windows distro. i miss those.
the point is, these corporate products are not usable, they are not stable, and they are not a good long term decision. any business that uses these is unbelievably stupid and deserves to get crowdstruck. the fact that the instability is political and your shit can just be bricked remotely on zero notice rather than due to being difficult to configure is not a point in their favor.
And you wonder why people don’t take linux cultists seriously…
yes, im a linux cultist who was really sad when windows 7 stopped getting updates.
instability is instability. you don’t make a factory in a politically unstable place, and you don’t use a product from a for-profit company that is prone to enshittification and could remotely brick it at any point without warning. risks are risks.
Damn. I switched to DDG like well over a year ago and thought I was just kind of putting up with it for the sake of privacy. Turns out I didn’t know how good I have it
It shouldn’t take this long to get to imdb
In case anyone here isn’t aware, you can directly search IMDB from DuckDuckGo by using the bang
!imdb.I can also search IMDB from IMDB.
DDG is moving into the same direction. I had to use ublock to hide the news block that appears when I’m searching for a movie/show in order to avoid spoilers.
In fact this was one of the key features lauded about DDG in its early days, the “instant result”-boxes.
Google kinda only went hard on them afterwards, probably seeing a good idea over at DDG because for the vast majority of people, they’re looking for answers and results, not specifically objects of type link-to-search-result. They don’t need a list of links, so long as the information they were after is reliably in those generated cards.
See OP wanting an IMDB link, which is directly there as Google correctly assumed that’s a very very very common use case for googling the name of a movie.
IMDB I can accept, random news websites - no.
Kagi has all these options as well but everything can be disabled in the settings.
I had the identical reaction. Thanks OP for posting this repellent screenshot. So glad I changed my defaults.
Exactly. I’ve been using DDG for years now and when I have to use Google search for whatever reason, I am quickly reminded how crap ggl is.
I just wish DDG would finally kill their Apple Maps. Over here they’re so incredibly unusable it’s just not funny any more. I’ll take here maps before that POS.
It’s so bad that on desktop, you can’t even go and click on alternative elements on the map without explicitly changing your search terms to them. You see them, but they’re non-interactive. So the incredibly common case “I remember the name of the restaurant next to this place” (or something similar) cannot be done on DDG, on account of getting Apple money to include their maps.
Completely agree! I wish you could choose which map to use. I still use and love google maps.
Using a specialized tool for the task is the way to go, in my opinion. I use OpenStreetMaps when I need to look at the map. If I’m looking for some famous(ish) place, I look it up on Wikipedia and jump to OSM from there.
Did it spoil the movie in the suggested questions 💀
Probably, luckily I had no interest in watching it and looked it up for other reasons.
