I prefer “list” view over grid view. Switching to grid view shows six videos before the break, but significantly less information about the video.
If you happen to use any user script extension already (like Violentmonkey) or don’t want to use a dedicated extension to fix stupid design decisions, I can recommend https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/405614-youtube-polymer-engine-fixes.
Worse: When you watch a short that appeared in your search results, all related videos are general shorts and NOT more search results. It’s too distracting, and for a person with ADHD such as myself, it kills my productivity. 🤬
Well anyway yt search result shows 3-5 relevant results then some shitty sexually suggestive videos with “People also watch this” whuch have zero relation with what I search and further scrolling shows the first 3-5 results again then loop forever
This is the experience on mobile idk web tho
If only we had invented a device that could scroll the web page… Some kind of wheel maybe? It could even go directly on the mouse.
Guess we’ll just have to suffer until then.
You can hide segments like that with ublock, fwiw. It’s been really useful to me for these kinds of changes every single website seems to be pushing these days.
I will also recommend blocktube extension.
I dunno when it happened but there was a time before clickbait and in-video ads. That was the good time.
Also with a browser extension. Wikihow has a page on how to do it 5 different ways.
yep, I use this on Firefox currently
Added and thank you!
You can also hide these segments by just clicking the X in the top right corner. It’ll hide the shelf (I think that’s how YouTube calls them) for 30 days.
The new slider replacement.
Anyone using Arc who needs a boost to block all YouTube bloat, let me know. I created one for myself but haven’t submitted it to the gallery. It hides shorts, suggested search results and some other crap.
I found youtube in particular to use very generic functionq that are used in other places so blocking something small ends up blocking other things, iirc from the long time ago that I wasn’t using piped, blocking youtube premium prompt broke comments or something along those lines
Sure, it depends on the coding of the site. Personally, I make sure to block the entire container where possible, and I haven’t run into too many issues like that.
only had the problem on youtube, I remember trying a lot of different elements to see how I could get around it
I dont know where I have it from (I think somone on reddit posted it), but I use this in the uBlock Origin Filter since 8 month and it removes all my shorts from the subscription:
www.youtube.com##ytd-guide-renderer a.yt-simple-endpoint path[d^="M10 14.65v-5.3L15 12l-5 2.65zm7.77-4.33"]:upward(ytd-guide-entry-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-mini-guide-renderer a.yt-simple-endpoint path[d^="M10 14.65v-5.3L15 12l-5 2.65zm7.77-4.33"]:upward(ytd-mini-guide-entry-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-browse #dismissible ytd-rich-grid-slim-media[is-short]:upward(ytd-rich-section-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="home"] .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-rich-item-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="subscriptions"] .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-grid-video-renderer,ytd-rich-item-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-search .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-video-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-watch-next-secondary-results-renderer .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-compact-video-renderer,ytd-shelf-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-watch-next-secondary-results-renderer ytd-reel-shelf-renderer www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="subscriptions"] ytd-video-renderer .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-item-section-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="channels"] #contents.ytd-reel-shelf-renderer:upward(ytd-item-section-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="trending"] .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-video-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-search #contents ytd-reel-shelf-renderer m.youtube.com##ytm-reel-shelf-renderer m.youtube.com##ytm-pivot-bar-renderer div.pivot-shorts:upward(ytm-pivot-bar-item-renderer) m.youtube.com##ytm-browse ytm-item-section-renderer ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[data-style="SHORTS"]:upward(ytm-video-with-context-renderer) m.youtube.com##ytm-browse ytm-item-section-renderer ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[data-style="SHORTS"]:upward(ytm-compact-video-renderer) m.youtube.com##ytm-search ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[data-style="SHORTS"]:upward(ytm-compact-video-renderer) m.youtube.com##ytm-single-column-watch-next-results-renderer ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer span:has-text(/^(0:\d\d|1:0\d)$/):upward(ytm-video-with-context-renderer)It will sure break in a couple of month again. It did 8 Month ago and I am sure YT will change the code again at some point.
I do not trust having to many FF Extensions installed from some rando from the Internet, so I like this solution better.
I dont know where I have it from
Maybe from here: https://letsblock.it/filters/youtube-shorts
I really think i got it from a Reddit comment, but it is good to know the source of it. Thank you.
I don’t mind shorts so much but Enhancer for Youtube has the ability to convert shorts to regular videos or hide them.
But the Videos are still only 1 Minute long. I find them a disgrace for my attention span. Before shorts/tiktok people were already arguing how deep a video of 10 Minute really can be and might be giving only a shallow idea of a topic. Going even further down to 1 Minute per topic is too much (less) for me. I prefer videos 20 Minutes+. Mostly 45-60 Minutes hit a decent spot for me to feel like I learned something about a topic. A couple of days ago I watched a 2-parts video of 6h and 5h (over several days) about the Russo-Japanese war. And even that was skimming over a lot of topics (obviously) but afterwards I felt like I understood something. I dont know how a 1 Minute short can transport anything other than just “a feeling of knowledge” - at this point it is basically just entertainment. I already felt 10 Minutes was snack-infotainment short. 1 Minute clips leave me behind like eating candy for dinner: Very unsatisfied. And maybe that is the reason people then click the next tiktok/short, because they actually do not feel satisfied by such a short clip and have the feeling for wanting more. And they satisfy this “more” by switching to another 1-Minute video. Again getting the feeling of more, yet getting less in the end of the day.
Can you share the videos about the war? They sound interesting.
True but also to be fair I have attention issues and can’t really sit too long for a whole video but they’re good for a lot of little critical role clips!
Then again I’m on like Tiktok all the time so I’m used to it :3
I think (if it is not a disorder) attention span can be trained. It takes discipline and a true interest into a topic other than just a vague excitement. If you are able to state what topics you are interested in for yourself, you might be able to concentrate on 10-30 Minutes of the same topic. People who are really into The Kardashians are able to watch a whole 50 Minute episode of them. So it is not the problem of concentration for them, it is more that they need something put in front of them for that they can feel a passion or enthusiasm they deeply care about - even it is just The Kardashians. Here is the thing: People have no problem browsing 2h+ of tiktok, but can not concentrate on 10x 20min video? I think if you have a real interest in something you can get through longer videos. Do you look for thing you really care about or do you actively looking for a distraction when you browse tiktok? It is not a bad thing to use it that way. After a long day of work, it can relax your brain browsing real shallow, short clips. But daily, in high doses… then I think it is maybe another reason people do it (escapism, etc.)
Any chance you can drop a link to 11 hours on the Russo-Japanese war? Didn’t even know that was a thing
Sure. Here you go: Part 1, Part2, (there even is a third part) - I strongly advice to watch it on 1.5x, as the speaker is very slow
I liked the very detailed day-by-day turns in the first part as well as the epic sea-fights in the second part. Also the small biography-slides with detailed vitaes of military personal gave a good idea in what time people lived and where they were going. Combined with an endless stream of original photos and drawings of the fights, it was a very dense documentation and gave a good image about war, russia, japan and the though-process of early 20th century military tactics.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/watch?v=vqdBOxKq-L4
https://piped.video/watch?v=8StilK0RWW0
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source, check me out at GitHub.
Not even that comical story about the misadventures of the Russian Navy? Oh man, you’re really missing out!
Here are a couple of videos about it:
- <10-minute video by BlueJay (presented in a casual/funny/meme-y way)
- >40-minute video by Drachinifel (presented in a serious documentary kind of way)
If you’ve got 50 minutes to spare, it’s worth watching both.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/watch?v=yzGqp3R4Mx4
https://piped.video/watch?v=9Mdi_Fh9_Ag
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source, check me out at GitHub.
Hey bot, you missed the fact that there were two videos linked in that comment.
path[d^=“M10 14.65v-5.3L15 12l-5 2.65zm7.77-4.33”]
Some of those rules are OK, but the
pathrules will be pretty flaky since they’re relying on a particular shape (like an icon or something) being present on the page.
Also DeArrow extension is really good for removing the clickbait thumbnails and replaces them with a simple still from the video itself. It also removes Emojis and special characters from the titles.
Other essential extensions for YouTube for me are (1) sponsorblock and (2) enhancer for YouTube.
DeArrowing is the thing I didn’t know I needed. Thanks!
I use rehike personally, it has the old layout so shorts are barely shown
Reduced the amount of videos per row too, had to find a ublock filter for that one.
If anyone is interested: https://pastebin.com/raw/SMVYXFHe
I haven’t used that page even once after started using pocket tube extension.
I generally only use the Android client. But if there’s any similarity, there’s no way to stop them spamming you with their shorts.
Ok don’t get me wrong (fuck shorts, they’re a terrible follow of a trend across so many platforms), but at least on mobile it seems like they’re shorts from people I subscribe to 🤷♂️ so I’m cool with supporting the folks I subscribe to, I guess
I fucking hate shorts so much. I completely blocked them:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-shorts-block/ https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/youtube-shorts-block/jiaopdjbehhjgokpphdfgmapkobbnmjp
It’s amazing how much YouTube doesn’t understand what people do and don’t like about TikTok
I honestly can’t figure out what anyone actually likes about tiktok. I installed it and after 30 minutes was annoyed with the autoplaying and having things just forced on me. I want to choose what to play. All the time, I hate anything anywhere that autoplays, and I don’t understand how anyone actually enjoys that. Its like being told that being poked in the eye with a needle was really popular.
It feeds an anxious brain’s desire for dopamine. Just “here’s a nonstop feed of easy to digest content.” I think it’s kinda predatory, tbh, and that’s not to get into anything else about the company
Watching every platform ruin itself to become a facsimile of every other platform is deeply infuriating and exhausting
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BUT THE MARKET SHARE!!!
I use Youtube via the channels RSS feeds. If there is a short I mark it as read and read on.
we really want the TikTok audience
How is it that such a shitty site/corporation has continued to maintain a grip on this market? Why aren’t we inundated with viable alternatives?
Because it has all the good content. The creators are what makes watching YouTube so fun, not the site itself.
Hosting video is expensive?
That’s basically it. The only potential competitor is Twitch, but even then Amazon only really gets into free streaming content.
Google has cheap hosting costs and the best ad market in the industry. The only non-porn competitors either charge the uploader to host or charge the user to watch.
Nebula is making good inroads. It’s well positioned to (eventually) make a shift from “YouTube parasite” to “YouTube alternative”.
Week by week it becomes more and more enticing. Most creators I watch are on it as well so I wouldn’t really lose much.
I don’t see it as YouTube parasite so much as the next step up for creators on the monetization chain.
I’m not saying it being a YouTube parasite is a BAD thing. But as long as it’s primarily getting it’s views from people who started watching on YouTube first, “parasite” is an apt description.
Yeah. Everyone thinks it’s easy to just “setup a YouTube”.
I support nebula which is a subscription service with some good creators. And because “fuck shorts and clickbait titles/thumbnails”.
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Also fighting copyright claims from the music and movie industry is even more expensive and difficult.
Microsoft (with their Azure) has more than enough storage space. They got CDNs and video streaming technologies (that anyone can use in their own products). But they’ve still given up their own music streaming service and public video upload service.
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there’s peertube and odyssey but idk how viable either of them are long term. peertube at least is decentralized, not sure if odyssey is too or not
i know Louis Rossmann also posts on Odyssey
Odyssey
You mean “Odysee,” I guess?
…Hey, browsing the “Home” and “Featured” categories, there are a couple of other Youtubers I recognize! Not many, but a few:
- Veritasium
- 3Blue1Brown
- Undecided with Matt Ferrell
- Bright Sun Films
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I agree that becoming too associated with nazi trolls (which are uniquely a problem in a way that even other sorts of extremists are not, because of the paradox of tolerance) is a huge danger to nascent platforms. I’m not sure what to do about it either, except maybe to continue trying to promote the platforms even despite the risk of offending them in hopes that they can grow faster than they lose reputation. And in the case of Peertube, defederating from instances hosting hateful content, I guess.
By the way, this…
implying that all lgbtq+ people are p*dophiles, which is a completely fucked and cruel thing to say
…is actually an understatement. What they’re actually doing is engaging in the equivalent of blood libel and trying to incite a pogrom.
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Peertube works.
If you use Ublock you can use this filter to clean Shorts from Youtube (FTR you only need 2 lines near the bottom that have the word ‘short’ in them, but Lemmy formatting is balls so it’s all or nothing):
! https://www.youtube.com www.youtube.com##.yt-spec-button-shape-next--size-m.yt-spec-button-shape-next--mono.yt-spec-button-shape-next--outline.yt-spec-button-shape-next > yt-touch-feedback-shape > .yt-spec-touch-feedback-shape--touch-response.yt-spec-touch-feedback-shape > .yt-spec-touch-feedback-shape__fill www.youtube.com##.yt-spec-button-shape-next--size-m.yt-spec-button-shape-next--mono.yt-spec-button-shape-next--outline.yt-spec-button-shape-next > yt-touch-feedback-shape > .yt-spec-touch-feedback-shape--touch-response.yt-spec-touch-feedback-shape > .yt-spec-touch-feedback-shape__stroke www.youtube.com###sponsor-button www.youtube.com###top-level-buttons-computed > ytd-button-renderer.ytd-menu-renderer.style-scope > yt-button-shape www.youtube.com###flexible-item-buttons > .ytd-menu-renderer.style-scope > yt-button-shape www.youtube.com##.ytd-topbar-logo-renderer.style-scope > .ytd-logo.style-scope www.youtube.com##+js(set, yt.config_.openPopupConfig.supportedPopups.adBlockMessageViewModel, false) www.youtube.com##+js(set, Object.prototype.adBlocksFound, 0) www.youtube.com##+js(set, ytplayer.config.args.raw_player_response.adPlacements, []) www.youtube.com##+js(set, Object.prototype.hasAllowedInstreamAd, true) www.youtube.com##.ytp-quality-menu [role="menuitemradio"]:has-text(Premium) www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="home"] .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-rich-grid-row) www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="subscriptions"] .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-rich-grid-row) www.youtube.com##.ytd-rich-section-renderer.style-scope > .ytd-rich-shelf-renderer.style-scopeuBlock Origin makes this easy:
Instructions Screenshot 1. Find a Shorts section on the page 
2. Select the element picker in uBlock Origin 
3. Select the Shorts section 
4. Click “Create” 
5. Enjoy 
You can also use the “zap” feature. Just use the lightning bolt icon to the left of the eyedropper and it’ll skip step 4. I also found this to work better because selecting shorts ended up always selecting the entire videos section as well.
Unfortunately zapping doesn’t work after refreshing
This is just temporary, if you refresh the page it will show section again.
It was not temporary for me. I had to go into my settings and delete my changes to get it working again.
This is defined as temporary in uBlock documentation.
Reloading the web page will cause all removed elements to return.
Your link talks about the element zapper, the icon that looks like a lightning. The instructions above talk about the element picker, the icon that looks like an eye dropper.
You can also use the “zap” feature. Just use the lightning bolt icon to the left of the eyedropper and it’ll skip step 4. I also found this to work better because selecting shorts ended up always selecting the entire videos section as well.
I can’t thank you enough.
Does this work consistenyl? I tried that with Pinterest’s login popup and it doen’t work (the element changes every time you enter the site). I ended up adding a filter to remove all Pinterest results from all my searches.
I would recommend clicking Preview before Create. You know what will be removed before creating a rule is better.
Wow cool feature!
OMG thank you ☺️
I did this years ago when it was added to home, not seen shorts since. Good guide.
Some more filters for blocking Shorts from YT can be found here.
There are pre-made filterlists that deal with annoyances like this (which tend to end up more reliable as tools that randomize/minify CSS classes get widely adopted), not just on YT but the wider web as a whole. I’ve written about how to set them up here: https://blahaj.zone/@ShittyKopper/pages/usable-web if you want to take a look at it
This is a great resource, thank you very much!
