miami. orlando (i.e. disney world and universal). las vegas. dubai. any other middle-to-upper class playground.
on the other hand, so people cannot say i mentioned anywhere in the center of capitalism: i’d love to meet ireland, scotland, brittany, galiza. the museums in new york, london, madrid, barcelona and paris are indeed something to see. the historic buildings and excavations in rome are of interest. and restaurant, café and bar-trotting in madrid, valencia, barcelona, paris, vienna, amsterdam, rome, naples, tokyo is something i’d love to do.
Cruise ships. Not really a destination but I hate them so much.
Florida
Any reason why in particular?
There wasn’t anything to do but theme parks really which gets pretty boring pretty quickly.
Theme parks is really only an Orlando thing. A large chunk of tourist Florida is hotels by the beach.
Doesn’t sound great either. However, fair enough.
The gentle click of jackboots makes it hard to sleep
Paris
Soooo dirty
I’d always heard people talk about how dirty Paris is, but it was so clean when I visited last year. Admittedly my point of comparison is San Francisco, but still.
Did you stray further than the tourist center? Like the area around gare du nord I hated the most. Spend a summer working there.
I did. Still nicer than San Francisco LOL
Wtf? How?? (and I’m not French)
Paris has been romanticized a lot in media, to the point where the Japanese embassy has to have staff on hand to handle the dispair of Japanese tourists visiting and getting disappointed.
I remember Paris being a pleasant large Western city, but it is still a large Western city with all that it entails.
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What’s the one in Luxembourg? I’m planning on visiting in the next few years.
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While there is tons of nice place/stuff to do in Paris, many people see it as a perfect, romantic, ideal whatever city, and a visit there the trip of a lifetime.
Paris is a 10 million inhabitants urban area with all the associated problems,
Imagine thinking you’re in the perfect city and being stuck in a crowded train, then in traffic, and falling in any possible tourist traps, from the barely legal but legal low quality, high price restaurant to the pickpocketsand other petty crime
Went to Europe for my honeymoon and Paris was the first stop since the wife hadn’t been to Europe. She thought it was dirty and underwhelming.
A nice city to see for sure but for sightseeing and museums. Felt like New York City in a way.
It is a good comparison. There is a lot to see in both cities and they have good transit systems, but it can be really disorienting if you aren’t used to city life and the grime of cities is harder to hide.
My wife thought it was wild how aggressive some street vendors are and how they set up tourist trinkets on blankets on the ground. We live very rurally haha
Now that they’re basically banning cars, it might be worth a visit again
They didn’t actually ban cars. Only reduced traffic to certain areas.
I’ve heard Finland is on the up and up with clean cities.
Apparently the popo there are quite heavy-handed when it comes to littering and such.
That sounds nice.
Pick up that can
I think Paris is a great city that I really enjoy visiting every time I go there, but you’re perfectly right that it’s incredibly overrated, anything with that reputation really must be, nothing that exists in reality could possibly come even close to such a myth.
Yeah Paris is great as a cool, old, European city with lots of history. If you like just hiking around cities it’s great. I can imagine if you go into it thinking it is like some French tourist resort, you will be disappointed.
Big deal, they have a tower just like this in Vegas.
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No, they also have one in Vegas that is a replica.
The funnier thing was that they had the Statue of Liberty wear a Golden Knights Jersey when Vegas won the Stanley Cup.
I also don’t get the hype around Paris. It’s not super ugly but also nothing special.
I don’t live too far from it, could easily go there for a week-end or even day trip. Still only been there twice and have no plans to go there again. In many spots it’s very crowded and dirty and the attractions aren’t better than in any other major city.
Ohio.
I took a trip to Cleveland and Cedar Point for an extended weekend and found it to be alright.
Cedar Point is an easy concession 🙇🏽♂️
No, Ohio is appropriately rated, which is why it is no one’s vacation destination.
Honestly speaking, Dubai.
Not because of slavery, poop trucks, questionable government policies, etc.
The real reason to me is that it does not offer anything traditional or historical. Yes it has some five start restaurants. Yes it has some big malls. Yes you can do stuff like desert driving or hot air balloons. These are all stuff that could be done anywhere else for cheaper.
Until very recently, Dubai was a desert wasteland with a few Bedouin roaming about. I’m not sure what I would expect for history or tradition.
The one thing I liked was going over the creek for a few dirhams and strolling through the historical souk.
That’s literally the only ‘old’ bit, but I was still constantly pestered by people trying to get me to come with them to look at handbags and sunglasses, and I do mean constantly, to the point where I just left because I couldn’t be arsed anymore.
Yeah, but that is typical of a lot of shops in the Middle East.
I know it’s unrelated to the thread, but I’d personally never go to a country that doesn’t treat, women, gays, apostates etc as equals, I think these countries are absolutely terrible and I’m not fooled by them having “show cities” where they pretend that they’re not that way.
A country that still has a medieval mindset in the third millennium is not getting a penny from me.
I understand your concern, but assuming someone looks over all of that, there isn’t something genuinely exciting about it.
Not to mention the terrible traffic it is in now due to the Russia- Ukraine war, other unstable countries within the region, the terrible public transport system Dubai has anyway.
If you’re American, you should pull the ejection seat lever.
Unfortunately the ejection seat lever is a paid DLC I cannot afford.
If you’re Australian, Bali.
Thems fighting words, where else can I spend my centerlink on a bintang singlet?!
Paddy’s Market
I’m there right now. You need to differentiate!
Most of the area south of Denpasar is just a large instagram zoo.
Denpasar is traffic. Just that.
North of denpasar it gets very beautiful very quickly.
Balinese people are some of the friendliest I have met on average.
What I do find overrated almost throughout is Balinese food.
Agreed. Get the heck away from Denspar and don’t even step foot in Kuta Beach, it’s not worth it.
Bali was amazing.
I liked my first all inclusive resort in Mexico very much. The second one had mediocre food and it rained heavily for three straight days, so much that the rain came through the thatched roof, and people pestered us to sign up for time share type presentations. It just looked a lot better than it was, and the beach was very basic.
Cruises. It’s literally people who are so terrified of international travel, they bring their home culture with them on a boat. Even if the mechanics of cruises are generally nice, they are filled with, and cater to this demographic. Personally when I am traveling, too many other Americans or Germans kind of ruins the vibe, so a whole boat of them is like purgatory.
Agreed. It’s for people who don’t like to sink deep into a culture. They want the short touch so they can pull back and leave asap.
I could never go on a cruise, the time constraints would drive me crazy.
International travel for people who hate international travel
Never go to a place because it’s popular, if you wouldn’t go there if nobody else was there, you probably won’t enjoy it when other people are there.
If you have a deep and strong interest in a place or a thing, it’s great to visit no matter what. Low season might be better
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I absolutely loved Rhodes and am so so so eager to return. Would love to visit Lesbos and Milos too.
but yes agree on Santorini, and Mykonos, both lovely but very over toured.
I’m glad I went once, but agree and am ok with not going back. Milos is 1000x better imo.
London. It doesn’t even have capital vibes.
Venice. Smelly, super crowded and everywhere is a tourist trap trying to extract $$$.
Depends on when you visit. I went during September and it was beautiful and not at all crowded. Didn’t smell, either.
Agreed
Disagreed. I loved Venice. Was crowded but was very pretty and interesting, and had great food. You don’t need to go to the expensive tourist places for good food. As always, see where locals eat.
Yeah. The best idea of eating in Italy is to eat in areas without good views. A hole in the wall place that looks a run down diner served amazing squid ink pasta. Also, a lot of bars will sell snacks that are real food; three of those is enough for dinner.
disney world
I feel like you need to be in a certain mindset to enjoy a theme park like Disney World. If you aren’t in that mindset, the place is a saccharine place of over-stimulation.
i dont think ill ever be in the mindset to get massively ripped off by a shitty company in buttfuck nowhere florida. no hate to people who enjoy it but it used to be a more reasonably priced endeavor. now the prices are worse and the lines longer than ever. with that kind of money id rather take a week in a cabin or nyc or something
Barcelona was nice to see, but I probably will never go back. The tourism is so heavy that even when there on the off season and being incredibly nice and respectful, the locals don’t like you. Worth it to see the more famous sites, but when I go back to Spain, I won’t be going there.
