That’s all.
EDIT: Thank you all for detailing your experience with, and hatred for, this miserable product. Your display of solidarity is inspiring. Now, say it with me:
Fuck Microsoft
Dog shit has plenty of good things going for it, frankly. It acts as a fertilizer and really its existence just means that your best bud’s internal organs are functioning properly.
Teams however
Fuck Microsoft. But first, Fuck Google, Fuck Amazon, Fuck Facebook. I am sure I could think of a few more that are worse than Microsoft, as bad as they are.
What’s bad about it? I’m a Linux admin by nature but an admin of all by profession and overall I have no real complaints about Teams. Has always worked just fine for me and to my knowledge everyone else.
I haven’t used competing apps to know, but as a forced teams user it is very sluggish, seems to break other ms apps half the time and has some strange and persistent design choices that irk me. It also crashes on its own, when I’m not using it 2-3 times a day.
It has improved in terms of features lately, but still feels very bloated and WIP most of the time. It still won’t let me control where video windows are, and I’ll never understand this.
This is our replacement for Skype, which was obviously feature deficient and getting old, but does what it’s supposed to do and doesn’t cause problems.
Not sure if there’s a good competing app in terms of video and slack functionality, integration into outlook and onedrive (both of which also annoy me and seem to be performing worse-over-time, but are unavoidable and sometimes useful.)
Agreed. It feels a bit janky here and there but otherwise works ok.
But don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t say I like it.
It’s missing basic features. The stuff that any normal human would assume it can do it just can’t do. It’s absolutely terrible if you use it in a large organization where you have to speak to multiple different people.
For one-on-one conversations I guess it’s okay but the moment you try and get anything more complicated than that going on it becomes a nightmare.
You know what, I forgot about the actual Teams section which is a disaster. I use it in a corpo but only actually use the IM and calls part.
They “just” merged the Team/channel and Chat systems together ala Slack.
What basic features?
Now it was a few years ago I used it regularly last time, but moving to Slack was a huge relief.
One thing I remember with teams is that sending files was always a hassle. Sometimes files didn’t arrive. Files couldn’t have the same name as other previously sent files (because everything was in a onedrive folder).
Slack has much better search. It felt like I could finally find the messages I wanted to find. With teams it was a gamble.
And then there’s much better bot integration. At my work we have multiple bots that send messages when there’s e.g. production errors. We can then start thread discussions directly on that posts about the error, or link it to other channels to escalate the issue. And with a working search engine we can easily find the conversation again as a reference.
It got many small things that just adds value.
Slow, buggy, annoying interface, hogs extreme amounts of resources locally, can be used to spy on its users.
What’s not to like? It’s basically how Elon envisions X, an “everything app” that is actually good at nothing specific.
You put more effort into this post than M$ did to their product
Oh, did you just get the memo?
Yes. Typical MS corporate BS. Take “inspiration” from slack and zoom, make it great to steal the market, then make it worse and more expensive every once and a while.
I love how they rolled out the new upgraded Teams and it’s still awful!
It may be crap, but it’s a masterpiece compared to Skype for business.
well,
anything would end up above the sluge
Of all the meeting solutions, I’ve come to the conclusion that Google Meet is the least bad.
For me the GOAT is https://around.co
I haven’t used anything but Around (internally) for the last 5 years, and then someone external sends me a google meet invite or a zoom and I cringe.
did you try jitsi?
I didn’t. Thanks for the shoutout, I’ll have a look.
the service normally does not require registration or login, neither any kind of payment, and they don’t run ads.
however, their public instance, meet.jit.si, got restricted a year or so ago because apparently bad people were using it for bad reasons. now a single participant is required to log in with a google account or something else they offer.there were also many public instances. but soon a lot of them closed too, and the public lists have disappeared, so I believe jitsi did not do what they did out of data hunger.
there’s still a few that doesn’t require any kind of account, if you’re interested I can send a link in PM. It’s better if you don’t publish it either.oh and if it tells anything. if you have heard about matrix.org, they were using jitsi for calls for a long time. they have switched to an in-house solution to have better platform integration, but it was fine
I have an office account for work. I don’t happen upon the troubles people report here. I couldn’t leave MS as I basically use all their stuff for work (and so do the several other hundreds of employees here). But teams does work well: texting, videocalls with 100s of participants, recording meetings, file repositories
I use teams every day. My only gripe recently is the messages like “look the wonderful things we did to improve it” that I didn’t need and will probably never use, but I press the little X don’t know don’t care
I mean, with winter coming in, and universities not bothering to heat the building, teams turning my potato work laptop into a furnace is the only thing keeping us warm this winter…
Serious question - is their long term strategy bad optimisation to sell hardware? Do they have shares in intel or something?!?
Everything related to Bill Gates is dogshit.
lmao, based. Discord too.
You don’t say.
Spoken like a person who isn’t forced to use JIRA