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“Don’t be evil”…
I don’t get it. They were rich beyond most people’s wildest dreams. Why did they jump aboard the enshitification bandwagon?
They want to be rich beyond EVERYONE’S wildest dreams.
Why else?
More money
Money is power, and people with money like to habe power.
If someone else is pulling in more money, you’re going to find yourself with less power.
These were a couple of PhD geeks who hit it big, it’s certainly not inevitable that intelligent people get absorbed with money, see the creator of VLC for example. It’s just sad that these guys could have been rich AND kept the internet ‘pure’ and research focused. But instead commerce has crept in and taken a shit on what was once a clean simple brilliant search service.
What happened with VLC? This is the first time I am hearing it.
It’s widely celebrated that Jean Baptiste Kempf, who could have easily sold VLC for tens of millions, declined to do so (or more accurately lead the steering group that jointly decided) keeping the enormously popular video player free and open source
https://old.reddit.com/r/VLC/comments/x0azkz/this_is_jeanbaptiste_kempf_the_creator_of_vlc/
Oh my, I was thinking that there has been a recent development and they sold out or something.
I had some interactions with him in VLC forum and he was still active there answering questions personally.
I hope they continue the good work.
Public trading… it’s capitalism. By law you have to try and extort every penny.
Now that I think about it I’m not sure why they had to accept investor money at all. I wonder if it would have turned out differently if they had remained 100% privately owned?
Because growth… Without the R&D money, Microsoft or Yahoo, or someone else would have figured out how to do what they do faster/better, waited until google was a forgotten name and then enshittified.
When you make a lot of money, the number you see in your account starts to become part of your identity because it differentiates you between you and the people you see every day. The same way if I had blue curly hair, that would become a defining factor of where I “differ” from the general public. The numbers in one’s account becomes an obsession-point.
People get obsessed with the number and how much bigger they can make it. It’s like hoarding. No amount will ever be enough. And once you’re able to buy anything, the actual value of that money becomes meaningless. So even more drive to bring the number up because that’s the only novelty you are getting.
That and power.
When you make a lot of money, the number you see in your account starts to become part of your identity because it differentiates you between you and the people you see every day.
“Tres Comas is for winners.” (A wonderful line delivery by the huge asshole venture fund bro in Silicon Valley, that illustrates your point)
“Don’t be evil” …
… for now
Sounds exactly like something that someone intending to train an AI would say.
Does it?
OK, what would they say if they weren’t planning on it?
IMO, they wouldn’t even mention any concept of AI at all, to begin with. They should carry on as they were already going, without bothering to say anything good or bad about AI. If they’re really committed to not involve AI within their platform, they could even create strict community rules regarding AI content and AI usage, limiting or blocking them. As some would say, actions say more than words, because even parrots and crows can speak… Even LLMs can speak!
okay but they use ai in production for moderation easing and detection, so you didn’t even bother to read why they said this. this whole site is full of fucking stupid presumptuous comments like this because it’s easier to blindly rage.
If the AT protocol allows public access to content, they can’t create a proprietary training set. But the content is available for anyone who wants to add it to a public training set.
Oh it will as soon as the investors demand more ReTurN oN iNvEsTmEnT.
Then we leave that platform too. I have zero loyalty. Zero.
But they’ll have stragglers just the same as any major social media site. Even though many here have standards they won’t easily abandon, there are scores of people that won’t even know if/when AI started being used on the site or would care enough to leave if they did.
Plus every time we leave a platform we need to find or build a new one. The time it takes to get others to migrate and develop into a worthwhile community is hard to predict and it may not even work out. It sucks social media is such shit anymore, but it seems inevitable that it will remain that way given the landscape of the Internet at this point.
I say this as someone who’s drifted from Fark to Digg to Reddit to Lemmy over the past 20-25 years 🎈 (zero loyalty as well)
I only have it because my family chose that over Mastodon. Mastodon is better.
It’s a Public Benefit Corp structure, so legally investors have very little power.
Until they restructure the way OpenAI did.
“Well, WE won’t train on your data. But this subsidiary company we created on the other hand…”
Or one of our 12675 carefully selected partners
* lube can be removed without prior notice
Better BlueSky than Twitter, but I hope everyone understands by now that there’s literally no reason to take a business’s word for anything unless they somehow have legally obligated themselves to doing that thing forever. Otherwise you can only trust them to keep doing it for as long as it’s worth it from an economic perspective. I’m not saying that it can’t ever happen that a business acts out of pure goodwill, but only a fool would count on it.
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BlueskAI on the other hand…
LMAO
Trust me bro, just keep shit posing on here, we won’t change out “ToS”
Won’t train AI on your posts
until we reach critical mass of users.Lol okay. Sounds good, bro.
… for now
It’s open to the public. So, many other orgs are certainly doing it anyway.
The same can be said of lemmy, mastodon or any publically accessible forum
Absolutely. I worked somewhere where we routinely had alarms go off due to botnets swarming us with weird (and obnoxious) massive download tactics (of publicly available user generated content, that is).
If it can be gotten by anyone, it will be gotten by LLM trainers.
