John doe is invaild syntax.
It just be
(John \doe);
I really can’t even begin to properly explain this because it’s just so many layers of intuition. No, you absolutely cannot have a line break in your name. That’s not a letter. That said, I’m fully prepared for someone to give me an example of some writing system that uses line breaks for unique purposes apart from spaces.
Chaotic neutral response: A line break is just white space.
Most languages use white spaces
its not just a white space. Sometimes it entails a white space, when theres still space on that line. Sometimes it does not.
apart from spaces
😎🤙
If elected president my first order of business will be to make all birth certificates fully unicode compatible.
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I govenment site I visited recenly made a point of how it accepts emojis in passwords!
How is your son
X Æ A-12
?“It sounds like a password”
Screw everything about Elon musk
Howdy friend, I’m ▒⟪♶⳽Ⰶ⮫☲Ⰱ∓✑ⲍ␝ⅼⓑ⊯⛝≋ⱚⵯ⿳➡⸷⋘⎋⛏⍫⣺⨼⛜⧄ⅈ⎥⦶⋣⩥⮯⨏⼧⁹⟤.
Oh, poor thing. It must be terrible to be one of insufferable Elon Musk’s progeny
Easy,
John\nDoe
Probably have to escape it so it will work properly: John\/nDoe
\n
already is an escape sequence, consisting of\
, the escape character, andn
, the code that is responsible for the new line. Together they form an escape sequence.This person unicodes
Sure, but if you don’t escape the \ then you likely won’t even be able to get the name into the first system. You need the name to contain \n so that it gets passed correctly to other systems, otherwise his name may wind up just being “John” .
John
Doe, related to Derrick Nippl-e perhaps? (Fry and Laurie)
No, cause “John\nDoe” messes up my regex. Sorry, out of the question. I’m not good with regex.
no one is “good” with regex.
Then who’s coming up with all the bits that I copy/paste off the internet? The regex dragon?
they likely aren’t good regex’s ;P … anything with more than, say, 6 operators is probably missing an edge case or will be outdated in a year (and then it’s impossible to determine its original intention)
There was only one, we’re all still copying from him or her.
From what I’ve seen, it’s Cthulhu.
Can I kill someone who wants to do this? How do I legally get away with it?
Plead permanent sanity. If I was the judge I would let you go.
Of myself of the now dead purpetrator?
Thanks bro
I gotchu
Plead permanent sanity.
temporary sanity is the best I can manage these days.
Unix or dos format?
Anyway, you probably need to put a backslash before it to indicate line continuation.
But wouldn’t it be better to use something more traditional, such as <br>?
HTML is more traditional than
\n
?True, poor choice of phrase.
But I was thnking of something like
#define my_macro does not fit\ on one line
A line break is a non-printable character. So it would only work in the scope of electronic storage. The minute it hits other media, the line break character is subject to how that media handles it’s presence, and then it is lost permanently from that step forward.
Plus, many input forms make use of validation that will just trim anything that isn’t a character or number, removing the line break character.
A line break doesnt have to be electronic only. You just… start a new line on the paper.
If it were somehow legally allowed, the sanitization would be incorrect.
As someone with a very mildly unusual name, I can tell you that it doesn’t matter whether a system could or could not meaningfully represent the name. Often the people or systems just refuse to acknowledge any deviation from what’s expected. Sometimes databases are written to enforce arbitrary grammatical rules that make my name impossible to write, or the people using the systems will just “correct” the “error” without telling me. I don’t mind that much but our normative systems just love to homogenise us.
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- People whose names break my system are weird outliers. They should have had solid, acceptable names, like 田中太郎.
https://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-names/
I’m just perusing my old comments and came across this, 7 months later. This is an amazing article, thank you.
No they’re not. They’re required for us to be catalogued and managed by a state, to our detriment and the enrichment of the ruling class.
“Normality” is a fucking scam that keeps your imagination in check, so you never look outside your assigned box and realise you don’t have to belong to anyone.
You have no idea how much genocidal violence has been done to condition our society to accept a dystopic phrase like “normal names are required for the functioning of society”.
Your mind has been caged.
You’re right.
I just want to say that my last name is three syllables and spelled exactly how it sounds. In fact it’s two common english words stuck together. It was Americanized/Anglicized from Germany.
Three syllables will break brains on people here. I state it clearly. They’re like haha what?
For the last 9 years I’ve just been handing over my work ID badge so they can type it.
I probably said it too dramatically, the kinds of people that need to hear it will just knee-jerk dismiss me, but seriously think about the phrase “normal names are required for the functioning of society”. What a wild-ass thing to say. Required why? Is society really that fragile? Sounds like maybe it should be replaced by something that can handle the occasional mildly spicy letter. Mine isn’t even that spicy, it’s like whole-egg-mayo levels of spice.
It’s hard to believe but it’s just a couple people being shitty. Many probably agree sadly, but damn, get with it people !
I understand all the crashes database, Bobby Tables arguments. But shit, just update your system to accept Unicode and we’ll live happily ever after. At least my child 🍆💦ヾ(⌐■_■)ノ♪ will be finally recognized. 🤙
That’s a beautiful name.
Sibling of Bobby Drop Tables
Y’all need to learn how to sanitize your inputs!
Not legal in Sweden. Our “IRS” must also accept the name and deem it legal.
I for one like this. As it stops some very stupid people to name their children some very stupid names. Such as “Adolf Hitler”.
And yes. Someone did try to name their child this and they were appropriately stoped from doing it.
ugh literally 1984
If only Sweden invaded the rest of the world instead of Russia… *le sigh*
I accept our new Scandinavian overlords. But I would rather have it be Finland.
Akchtually, Finland is not a Scandinavian country properly.
Fuck that, we think it is in the US. And we’re the only people who matter on the internet.
Eh, if they went imperial they would be subject to imperial needs leading to all the usual imperial problems.
Funny enough. Sweden already went through that problem. We call it “Age of Greatness”. (Stormaktstiden)
Basically. Sweden got too big too fast, couldn’t maintain an army large enough to secure everything. If i remember correctly, we couldn’t produce enough food, and we lost a bunch of territory.
What, inconsistent units? /s
Should have went with Adolf Olivernipples
Good luck with that.
Most computer nayetems will trim the crap out of that name, the white spaces like space, tab, \r and \n will be gone by the time it’s in the database
Not legal in Canada. Your legal name must use Latin characters only. This is a sore point for indigenous people.
Which is both entirely understandable, and also tragic because Canada’s indigenous written characters are so cool. :D
But also, it’s gotta be neat having a name among your people, that “the state” has nothing to do with…
Did the Romans not use line breaks?
Blank spaces arent characters by definition as they’re the space that allows the letters to exist
Deep. Is Python a form of Jazz?
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No, they didn’t even use the space to separate words. Take a look at any Roman inscription in Italy, there are no spaces between the words (just like there are no silent pauses between spoken words).
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Hello my name is JohnDoe. My name only contains Latin characters, no spaces allowed.
The Romans also had spaces in between words
But did they have lowercase?
EDIT: Hello my name is JOHN DOE. Only latin characters allowed
But did they have
lowercaseenglish language?Salve! John Doe nomen meum est.
Only latin
charactersallowed(That’s all the latin I remember from school back then)
I was under the impression that that was actually a medieval invention
This comment made me learn. Thank you.
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The inscription on the Pantheon has dots between the words.
M·AGRIPPA·L·F·COS·TERTIVM·FECIT
Nothing but understanding of words and sentences. It was kind of a whole thing. The space character was revolutionary to increasing the spread of literacy. Relevant
Or for those that just want to read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scriptio_continua
Ah, but you see, “John” and “Doe” are two names - first and last - and when you say “My name is”, you’re really listing out your names, with spaces inbetween!
But then there’s hyphenated names, and I have no idea how those are treated.
Could be…“Jondo” like, a mononym hahaha.
"John Doe"
vs["John", "Doe"]
vs{"firstName":"John", "lastName":"Doe"}
console.log(Object.values(name).join("\n"));
Apparently no-one did it yet, so I’ll name my child +++ATH0
Just noticed that the listing for ; DROP TABLE “COMPANIES”; – LTD has been redacted by the government website‽
Is it missing an apostrophe and a dash? Or they registered the wrong name?
Anyway, the use of quotes seem to have backfired. I blame Excel.
Apparently they didn’t include the single quote at the beginning because they wanted to hint at the exploit without actually triggering it.
(and Lemmy seems to combine two dashes into one)