Like, we’ll probably find out that eating boogers actually makes you immune to select illnesses or something crazy like that.
If it turns out there really is no free will. What will happen? Do we get a kind Utopia? Or fascism where you are mistreated based on your lot in life?
There’s no functional difference, unless you can accurately predict someone’s actions, and to do that you’d need to predict the environment in which someone is making choices as well, which requires omniscience. So, there’s no functional difference.
Unpredictability is not the same as free will.
Yes, but if there is true free will, the universe would not be perfectly predictable. If it is, then there could not be free will. Luckily, it isn’t.
I would say deterministic rather than predictable.
I think the universe is deterministic and that there isn’t something inside our heads that bypasses determinism and creates free will.
Sure, that’s consistent.
But we know for sure that the universe is not deterministic.
From a fundamental level, it is probabilistic.
Simple experiments can show this chaotic action.
Take for example the dripping tap experiment. The time for next drop cannot be predicted by knowing the timing of the previous drops!
This is not a random process, there is a pattern, but it is also clearly not deterministic.We can’t predict it because we can’t possibly know everything. But unpredictably isn’t the same as randomness or implies nondeterministic behaviour.
If you are really interested, look into the uncertainty principle.
At this point in science we are as convinced as is possible to be; that the universe is probabilistic in nature.
Remember the reasons we have punishments? To discourage further misdeeds. Also, to restore justice by inflicting suffering on those who deserve it. Punishments would still be dished out for pragmatic reasons, but retributive punishment would be rendered entirely meaningless.
It would also shatter all sense of acomplishment an individual could have. All that would be left is maybe a perverse pride in knowing you where born “better” than others.
I don’t think society would survive if it was a common knowledge.
Like I said, how can you prove that free will exists now? We could very well already live in your scenario, and the world isn’t ending because of a lack of free will (if it doesn’t exist). I mean, it is ending, but not because of free will or the lack thereof.
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ever reach behind your head and try to pull somthing out?
Wouldn’t proof that we’re in a simulation also mean pretty concrete proof that there’s no afterlife or any form of continuation of consciousness when we die?
Like, I doubt your virtual machines go to heaven when you close them.
If life is a simulation, afterlife can be simulated as well.
Yeah but could they be saved and restarted? Or better yet, restarted from an earlier save but with access to older saves?
Why would an optimization make things more complicated? The point of optimizations in any simulation is to simplify the complexity of the computation. The entire reason why there is a multi-billionaire industry to research quantum computers is because they are exponentially more difficult to simulate than classical physics, so they are not practical to simulate on a classical computer. Seems weird to me that a simulator would “optimize” things by making them enormously more complex.
Why are we assuming they’d want to optimize it? If they went through the trouble of simulating the entire universe, they probably either have a particular goal in mind, or have such a ludicrously large amount of resources that it doesn’t matter.
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Do you even need quantum mechanics to make that argument, then? You’re basically saying weak emergence is evidence of being in a simulation because you can approximate nature much simpler when “zoomed out.” It seems like even if we did not have quantum mechanics you could still make that argument.
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So many skibidi vibes here man, it was all vibes rizzing up this place and until I came and unvibed everything. The vibes are so joever vro I was just mogged. 😔
COVID originated in the swamps of the deep south.
Edit: obviously, not really, but we shouldnt be too quick to judge where it came from.
Were you around when the Fort Detrick conspiracy was going around? Obviously not true but has more evidence than the Wuhan shit so was fun to use to push back against that.
well COVID was found in the wastewater of Venice before the first cases were reported in china.
I was not! I’ll have to check it out.
Like a fairly realistic one: measurement exclude a cosmological constant as the explanation for cosmic acceleration in favour of a quintessence scenario.
I think it’ll be wild if AI actually becomes incredibly intelligent. I’m thinking specifically about materials and what crazy new one AI could dream up but at a level that would require it to actually think and not regurgitate some LLM data it scraped.
what crazy new one AI could dream up but at a level that would require it to actually think and not regurgitate some LLM data it scraped.
A LLM wouldn’t be useful but I wonder how far this can be done without AI (machine learning) technology, just programmatically like with protein folding simulations.
Solid proof that the source of all life on this planet actually began on a different world. The critical components came here via a comet or even an spacecraft that inadvertently dropped it off. Should screw with a lot of ideals
Id expand on this. I think the entire solar system has microbial life. Every crack it can exist it will. Asteroids, comets, the gas giants. Its likely all related too. Itd be mostly underground tho and hard to find. Probably multicellular life in some cases too like ice moons, and underground on mars in cave systems.
“Scientists find proof that the hand of God created all life on Earth.”
Solid proof of God? Yeah that would change things
I was referring to how it would be spun if life was proven to have come from an extra terrestrial source.
You still have to come up with the explanation of what started life in the first place!
This is always my reaction to this theory as well. If someone asks “How did life on Earth start?”, surely we can assume they actually mean “How did life start?”
It’s like if a kid saw a baby, and asks their parents “Where do babies come from?”, and their reply is “Oh that baby lives next door, it came from that house”.
Still better than the alternative: solid proof that we are in fact alone in the universe
Not only is that unprovable, it seems highly unlikely.
I thought we had evidence that life was seeded from off world? don’t have sources right now but i remember coming by an article explaining that.
Want that the story about the teen aged alien that came here to jack off?
no, a asteroid from space came with the seeds of life that helped kick-start it.
Lol I know.
likewise, alien life probably even if just microbial would throw a monkeywrench in a lot of folks beilef system
I consider Extended Wigners Friend Problem Experiment to be quite fascinating. This experiment has already been performed, but I expect its results to be fully understood by the masses. And I am not proffesional physicist and want to understand it better too by myself. a-quantum-experiment-suggests-theres-no-such-thing-as-objective-reality The results of this experiment call into question one or more assumptions about the existence of objective reality, freedom of choice, or locality. All three cannot exist together. But personally, I think that the second and third points have been checked a lot of times, so no matter how improbable it may seem, the first point is the most likely. But what it really means remains to be understood.
Wow that website is awful
Sorry for this website it’s not some special website, just one of many website describing the experiment. You can search in internet for better site with review of this experiment(Extended Wigners Friend Experiment).
What is dark matter?
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Dude I’m worried that the Participatory Anthropic Universe is real.
Maybe this is all a consistent hallucination we willed into existence based on our interactions with each other
We find out we need douchebags because
ourtheir assholery emits some kind of pheromone or something that repels imperialist extraterrestrialsEdit: some series did something like this, right?
i thought you were going to go somewhere that they are required for human mating.
We need douchebags already so we can feel less of a bad person while the one next to you is being an ass. Lol. Keyword: feel.
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some series did something like this, right?
Dicks fuck assholes, chuck. You know what’d happen if dicks didn’t fuck assholes? You’d get your dicks and pussies all covered in sheeyet.
I’ll take the imperialist extraterrestrials, they’re probably gonna be easier to mobilize humans in opposition against than the terrestrial imperialists we have now.
The Earth is flat.
Talking to animals.
lol i wish for this one so much.
Causal relationship between social media and degradation of basic critical thinking skills. Not just tiktok, anything in which people are primarily communicating asynchronously and has a “reward” (likes, upvotes, etc)
So Reddit/Lemmy for sure included
nice, have an upvote.
I think a major issue is that nobody checks sources. Earlier, when everybody watched the news or read papers, sources were more reputable (not infallible for sure). Now any random creator can sway your opinion without that reputability. Pretty inherent to the internet as algorithms decentralise everybody into their own corner.
That agrees with my preconceived biases, for sure.
Beyond that, I think it’s possible that the “sting” of negative reactions, or the perceived lack of positive reactions my possibly shape how people think.
And, you can buy that kind of engagement in bulk if you have money. You can train people to engage in different thought patterns buy buying upvotes (buying them dopamine), that would be my hypothesis.
If that’s true, I think the inherent danger from a sociological standpoint could not possibly be understated.
Casually closes this app, knowing I will be back in half an hour
Aspartame cures cancer, but only when ingested in soda.
Pi equals exactly 3.
The most effective, universal vaccine is based on asbestos.
A consistent model for the expansion of the universe that explains the different rates observed
