Yeah they keep calling him radicalized. I just keep thinking this is a normal reaction and that corporate America and its shills are the radical ones.
I’ve read the manifesto. I have the same thoughts as you. I wonder with all these people calling him radical if maybe there’s a fake manifesto out there. Something created JUST to make him sound crazy? That would explain the wildly different views of him being radical.
Remember, one month ago, the shooting hadn’t happened yet. Nobody knew Luigis name or face. So if you go from not knowing he exists, to seeing him murder a guy, and then get told he has plans for domination, and kill all the people…it would be logical to understand why someone would call that perspective radicalized.
That’s not what he is, or what he wrote, but if you read a fake manifesto, believed it to be real, that would explain people saying that.
Otherwise, I’m confused where “radicalized” comes from.
The media attempting to paint a narrative. Consent manufacturering machine go brrr.
People don’t read the manifesto, just the headlines calling him radicalised.
At first there were a lot of things floating around with people claiming to somehow have gotta access. Lot of sick fucks out there want to push an agenda.
“Would you shoot literal hitler in the back?” “Fuck yeah, bud” “Who radicalized you, everything that man did was legal”
Hey, hey, let’s not bring the H man into this. It’s not like the US is rounding up immigrants into concentration camps and making them work to pay off their deportation fees so that the US can have its slave labor without being dependent on China because we are at war over Taiwan……
I didn’t bring Hitler into this. “Literal Hitler” is an analogy, a character, not the real thing.
I’m making a joke
ah yes, i clearly noticed.
Oh no, reality is leaking into the media! We must stop this unapproved narrative!
Sadly reasonable conclusions based on reality is pretty based.
Read that in his voice, well done.
Hi I’m new to Lemmy since Reddit decided to permaban me due to support I showed for Luigi. Good riddance to be honest. I should have fully quit when they shut down Apollo but didn’t know Lemmy existed.
Just keep in mind that if you are not satisfied with how your particular instance is running, you don’t have to stop using lemmy like you did with reddit. You can switch to a different instance and keep on chilling!
No more switching services! Gotta love this place.
To expand on this: You can migrate accounts fairly easily. You can export your subscribed communities, and import them into your new account. So the only real thing you’re losing is your post history, but even that is seen as a bonus by many users who are looking to burn their old account.
Additionally, some instances disable up/downvotes as well so you don’t even need to worry about internet points if you don’t want to.
It’s worth looking around and finding a few instances you like and checking them out. Some tend to have their old local culture which is kind of neat.
That’s what reddit banned, it’s so innocuous.
They didn’t ban it because it was dangerous or violent, They banned it because the anti-corporate and spez is a musk wanna be
Thiel is one of reddits earliest investors. spez is a Thiel boy.
This whole time I can’t believe how reddit managed to hold up a facade of being a cool progressive college student platform. They pulled the wool over everyone’s eyes. It’s as if they put lipstick on /pol/ and /b/. And everyone was like, alright a hip liberal platform. Sure if you ignore the iceberg of right wing bootlicking shit beneath the surface of the default subreddits.
barbara streissand has taught them nothing apparently
It’s pretty shitty as far as manifestos go.
I appreciate how quick a read is it. Much more likely for random people to read it and start thinking and then you can jump out of the bushes and go “surprise, you just read a manifesto!”
You agreed with a murderer, now what?
I mean, he claims responsibility, confirmed the existing evidence, then states his motives which aren’t hard to understand for even those out of the loop. I think the brevity and simple reasoning speak volumes louder than some maniacs scribblings found in a cabin. The fact that even those considered Semliterate would be able to grasp the bulk of his message was likely intentional.
Its actually not shitty at all, presuming his purpose was to inspire a shift in public discourse around the topic.
If he wanted it to be the centerpiece of a dramatic documentary miniseries, then yes, it was shitty.
4/5 stars.
There are like 50 sentences of basic reality in there, but I suspect that a lot of the moderation challenge comes from one small phrase dropped into the middle: “it had to be done.”
With the inclusion of that, the 50 sentences of reality are recast as not just true but a valid justification for murder, even an argument that it was a duty, and that’s the rub.
Reddit said so because it’s CEO is known to be a greedy bastard who threw everything and everyone Bunder the bus for money. Luigi would not approve
No, it’s not.
It’s an acknowledgement that there’s a massive problem.
These companies are literally willing to bankrupt you to death. Their behavior is inexcusable. They profiteer off of human suffering.
We live in a country founded by people who were unhappy with the status quo and were willing to pick up a gun to change things. We shouldn’t act surprised that it still happens. I don’t think we should celebrate it, because it’s sad that this is happening in the first place, that someone feels they need to do this. This problem is solvable, and it can be solved civilly, or it will be solved uncivilly.
We’re are explicitly given the right to bear arms as a check to tyrannical governance.
Our government outsourced their tyranny to corporations.
Corporations should be well aware of strings being attached.
Thats exactly how I feel “Its sad that this is looking like the solution”
Like, it had to come to this? You couldnt just set up your little racket and keep the golden goose fat and happy? Or atleast adequately provided for and left alone?
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Agreed! Sad that all the debt and death these companies allow is ignored in these discussions.
Glorifying violence is A-Ok when the government awards people the Medal of Honor.
Reddit needs to come up with a more accurate excuse for their censorship.
Their excuse is monnney. Look at Twitter, people are pulling their ads because they are not happy with what’s happening there. Keep the people who give you money happy and everything is fine. No matter if you would have to sell your soul (like Disney in China, to not get banned and miss millions of subscribers). Since the ad companies usually are big corporate, you can imagine what reddit their stance is.
They must have some data that this time some thing is awakening against the corporate greed.
Reddit gargles fascist schlong.
Nuff said.
For a website with sections called nsfl and fight porn reddit takes a weird stance on manifestos.
You mean the website that didn’t ban creepshots until MSM reported on it? That website?
The jailbait subreddit was regularly on the front page and openly joked about for years, Spez was even a mod for a bit “as a joke” until Anderson Cooper did a story about it.
Fight porn is not what I was hoping for, yet not exactly disappointed in the result.
Yes it is. So what. The rich glorifies violence against the poor.
The leader of the country once said: “When the looting starts, the shooting starts”
So if its apparantly okay to use violence against alledged thieves (which is not okay btw, stealing should never equate a death sentence), then it must be okay to use violence against mass murderer CEOs.
“When the denying starts, the deposing starts” would be my rebuttal to that phase the ex-president said. Violence begets violence.
You get points for honesty, at least. Most people in here don’t even admit this is a call for violence.
It certainly doesn’t state it explicitly. It just says that the killer was the “first to face it” that way that implies that there is a possibility for more but the way I understood it was that current measures being taken aren’t enough, that doesn’t mean that other people wanting to take action should do so violently.
It also calls them parasites in the plural sense, as justification for it needing to be done.
So if its apparantly okay to use violence against alledged thieves (which is not okay btw, stealing should never equate a death sentence), then it must be okay to use violence against mass murderer CEOs.
The reason violence against “looters” is permitted stems from their violation of the principles of the American caste system
Contrary to popular belief, you are not allowed to pull yourself up by your own bootstraps. You are only allowed to help yourself when you’ve received lending permission from a state recognized philanthropic sponsor. Otherwise, you are supposed to quietly drown in your own filth, where it isn’t inconvenient for anyone higher on the totem pole than you.
The caste system is sacred. Brian Thompson earned his position. Luigi Mangione deserved his miserable fate.
I like that you put “looters” in quotes. After hurricane Katrina, the news would show “looters” and “people trying to survive,” taking food items from grocery stores. I wonder what the difference was?
the difference
Skin hue
Yes, people were also taking electronics, but for food?
Robots need to eat too
Yes, people were also taking electronics, but for food?
I believe there were a number of people accused of robbing stories when they were actually evacuating them from rising floodwaters. But, again, that boiled down to skin tone.
Probably.
most CEOs don’t murder, even the health insurance ones simply are committing theft analogs, simply not funding healthcare, not preventing those than can independently afford it from accessing it.
When the looting starts, the shooting starts
That was some fascist cop in Miami in the 60’s. Not the leader of any country.
President Trump told reporters Friday evening that he didn’t know the racially charged history behind the phrase “when the looting starts, the shooting starts.” Trump tweeted the phrase Friday morning in reference to the clashes between protesters and police in Minneapolis following George Floyd’s death.
So copycats are now the authors of the things they copy? Whatever. This phrase had meaning as evidence of fascism in the US in the 1960’s but now it’s just another dumb, easily forgettable trump thing. Congrats, history is erased and now you got another trumpism! Wow!
Yay! You won a pedant point. Now you can flush the original down your brand new trump toilet! Oh boy! You won!
I can’t believe you’ve done this
Is anyone with a pulse still on reedit? All I ever see there are AIO/AITA/best of creative writing exercises that reek of ChatGPT
On the odd occasion I go to reddit front page, AITA is always at the top with an obviously AI generated ridiculous story.
Title: AITAH for calling out my [Friend/Husband/Wife/Mom/Dad/Son/Daughter/X-In-Law] after [He/She] did [Undeniably something outrageous that anyone with an IQ above 80 should know its unacceptable to do]?
Body of post:
[5-15 paragraph infodumping that no sane person would read]
I told my friend this and they said I’m an asshole. AITAH?
Comments:
Comment 1: NTA, you are abosolutely right, you should [Divorce/Go No-Contact/Disown/Unfriend, the person] IMMEDIATELY. Don’t walk away, RUNNN!!!
Comment 2: NTA, call the police! That’s totally unacceptable!
And sometimes you get someone calling out OP… 3: Wait, didn’t OP also claim to be [Totally different age and gender and race] a few months ago? Heres the post: [Link]
🙄 C’mon, who even think any of this is real…
I’m there for a couple of videogames and the homelab/selfhosted stuff. Curated subreddits are still active and real.
Some communities just don’t really have an equivalent elsewhere but I’m purely only lurking now. Don’t comment anymore, use a modded third party client on mobile and ublock origin on desktop.
I’m there for certain communities that aren’t active here. I still don’t use the official client though, it’s horrible
What client are you using?
I’m using rdx. It scrapes old.reddit.com for the results, so it doesn’t need the api.
Reddit was full of false outrage and fake stories long before GPT ever existed. Just the last few people that were willing to post have kind of wandered off. I think we got the best of them here
Depends on the context in which you’re sharing it.
If you share it with a title like “We need more of this”, then yeah, because you’re encouraging further acts like it. If you share it with a title like “This is the manifesto written by the alleged CEO killer”, then that’s not inherently glorifying violence, you’re just sharing something you found and being informative. But if you share it in response to the question “Hey Reddit, what are some fun things I can do in NYC this weekend?”, then you’re back toward the “glorifying” side. Context makes all the difference.
Whether or not anybody gives a shit about that distinction, though, is a different question.
Maybe they should take it as “glorifying justice”? No, of course that doesn’t align with Reddit’s ruthless ruling.
My understanding is it’s being removed regardless of context.
That’s the point of their last sentence.
Whether or not anybody gives a shit about that distinction, though, is a different question.
I think that statement could be interpreted a few different ways but regardless I think it’s helpful background information to know that they aren’t considering the context at all.
Would it’s get me banned to reply with “I love reading about CEOs getting killed, and I want more of them to die”?
Edit:in minecraft.
Why would they mind the deaths of Creeper Entity Objects?
Kek
Reddit also thinks appealing a ridiculous van is harassment, so not exactly the brightest bulbs over there.
Reddit sucks. They’re the reason I came to Lemmy. They’re absolute trash.
I started to realize that the thing I liked about Reddit were the analytical and thoughtful people like me on the platform. When I came here, I found that many came over. When I visit Reddit, either because I’m nostalgic or because I have a specific need for something there, I’m finding more and more recent posts that are mostly filled with trash. Sure, some of the insightful, thoughtful and analytical people are still hanging around, but the vast majority has shifted away from that type of person. Reddit has also become so mainstream that is a stone’s throw away from xitter or Facebook in terms of quality. Everyone and their mother is starting a Reddit account.
I miss when old.reddit.com was just reddit.com.
I mean, stupidity and group think are just parts of having conversations in large groups as happens on these internet forums. I have not been impressed with the quality of intellect on Lemmy. But at least its not like Reddit where every mildly interesting subreddit has a minimum Karma count of like 30, and at least I’m not getting permabanned left and right over completely benign BS like saying I think Christianity is a net positive. I can say what I want here, and people can downvote it and I might even get mobbed… but at least I’m not being micromanaged.
I agree. I’ve noticed a tendency towards willful blindness here. It’s a little off-putting.
Did you try installing Linux tho
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You’re a funny dude.
Hey man, people can drive what they want, saying their car is ridiculous is not cool
Of course not, it’s just Spez sucking up to the billionaires in the hope that one of them will be dumb enough to toss him a few million for his shitpile.
r/combatfootage has glorified violence for years now. That’s the only reason it exists.
