Since Lemmy is federated, and the admins of each instance choose what’s allowed and what’s not in their own instance.
How do you feel about what’s allowed and what’s not in your current instance ?
I’ll start: I’ve read people complaining about my instance admins, but I haven’t experienced nor seen anything I specifically disagree with.
And I’ve read things they wrote that I absolutely agree with, like not federating with Meta under any circumstances.
So for now, I’m happy with it. If I get banned randomly, I don’t think I’d go to a different instance, though. I’d probably just stop visiting Lemmy altogether.
My instance doesn’t seem to have any censorship as far as I can tell, but despite what terminally online people would expect, it’s not overrun by Nazis.
Ditto. SDF feels very nerdy and comfortable.
I feel OK about it, for the most part. I can say "genocide is always wrong" and not get banned here.
Scientists working to end West Nile virus by eliminating mosquitos ability to reproduce.
But ya can’t see the word bitch (or a bunch of other swears)
How will I ever decide whether or not to make this tradeoff???
good. not everyone wants to deal with misogyny.
Oh no, not the tyranny of the regular expression filtering of a few bigoted words! This is fascism!
Bitch isn’t a bigoted word lawl
It’s misogynistic, pretty clear cut bigotry.
Not if you’re calling something cool “bitchin’”!
I only see removed but this comment makes me think of female dogs
Yerp, that’s exactly correct hahaha
Other instances don’t remove words
The root word is baked in misogyny, that doesn’t change that dynamic.
You’re such a bitch
Until you get specific
My instance is great.
If I get banned randomly, I don’t think I’d go to a different instance, though. I’d probably just stop visiting Lemmy altogether.
In that case check the modlog and if it’s unreasonable why not try out another instance?
You’re on one of, if not the most heavily censored instances and you should try something else out
Say something about the Big C and you get hit with a message from admins.
I generally disagree. Lemmy.ml is more broadly federated than slrpnk.net or Lemmy.world, as an example, so really it’s just “censorship” of a different bias and a different manner. All instances “censor,” whether it be removing content that breaks the rules or defederating from instances that are ideologically opposed. This is especially prevalent on Lemmy, as the demographics largely fall ideologically into either the liberal camp, the Marxist camp, or the Anarchist camp, and these camps are concentrated on different instances.
Correct on being more federated yes. ml and world are both just too heavy handed with overzealous mods IMO. I’ve started using a couple other accounts that are on instances more federated and less moderated as well
More gets removed from Lemmy.ml as a consequence of its own broad federation, which appears as overzealousness.
They’re not on .world, where you can get instance banned for suggesting Ukraine might lose or trump isn’t marginally worse than Harris.
World and ml are both really bad for the same reasons just different sides yes
You really have to try to get banned in ml. You’ll get banned on world for disagreeing with the US Democrats.
Or banned for asking why something was removed and quoting the mod log
I haven’t been banned from either, but I have had .ml mods remove comments speaking negatively of hexbear based on completely imaginary rules that aren’t listed anywhere. Meanwhile, in that same discussion, hexbear users were brigading me and making literal death threats and their comments were allowed to remain.
My instance is great. I have no complaints and seen no censorship.
No issues here
Lemmy.world defederated with many interesting instances.
No piracy communities for example!
I couldn’t stand it.
I haven’t had a single issue with feeling censored at DB0. If anything, it is users from other instances acting like they own the whole Fediverse that I have occasionally had a problem with, but I don’t think any of them were moderators.
Yah, moderation on db0 is fantastic. I have zero complaints.
I honestly feel like parasocial friends with DB0 at this point, and he is a really standup person in my opinion. Definitely the kind of intelligent nerd I admire.
I sat down with my partner last night, to help him pick out an instance to join. He said he wasn’t unixy enough to feel at home on SDF.
I feel comfortable with his decision to join dbzer0. Folks from dbzer0 seem like good sorts, and somehow none of y’all have pissed me off enough to get added to my block list.
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it made me get off of lemmy.world
What was the issue there ?
Admin’s didn’t like Luigi discussions to the point of not allowing discussion of Jury nullification. It wasn’t not supporting violence but not supporting most discussion of this topic. To me, that shows protection of a certain neoliberal class. Like the opposite of lemmygrad.
They do support violence, just the old terror, as Mark Twain would put it.
by that you mean state terror?
Capitalist system terror and opression, though considering USA is at the stage of imperialism for which merging of capitalism and state is characteristical, we can say it’s the terror of the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie.
Damn, that sucks. The users there must be missing out on so many good Luigi memes
more than just sucks; seeing it happen there as well as facebook, twitter & reddit makes it clear what .world’s intentions are.
Lemmy.world is incredibly hostile towards Marxists, or anyone too critical of the Democrats or the US’ involvement in the genocide of Palestinians. I imagine @ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com has similar complaints based off their username.
My name is a pun off of miao being meow in chinese but sounds similar to Mao. But yes, that is where their censorship is and I disagree with it, but I also disagree with lemmygrad/hexbear censorship.
I elaborated on my views in my top level comment here, but you can’t avoid “censorship.” You can only pick which bias you want to see more of. Lemmygrad and Hexbear are more open with their biases, and can be trusted to uphold that bias very reliably. Lemmy.world is more subtle, it focuses on selective defederation and selective removals and bans in order to carefully prune a demographic.
Dbzer0 is interesting, it’s mostly tech nerds and those enthusiastic about Anarchism, while remaining federated with Lemmy.world, Hexbear, and Lemmy.ml while defederating from Lemmygrad. As such, it generally leans techy Anarchist with a large influx of Liberals from Lemmy.world and some Marxists from Hexbear on occasion. It isn’t as heavy handed with removals as Lemmy.world is in my experience, but it definitely is selective with what the mods and admins consider “acceptable Marxism.”
Thanks for the knowledgeable break down :)
I didn’t know much of that especially dbzer0 federating hexbear but not lemmygrad. Wonder why?
You’re smart about knowing the clear biases versus the more subtle one’s. Well said!
I never had any particular problem at lemmy.world but I really didn’t like their Luigi decision. The admin of dbzer0 seems nice. I directly asked about not liking ai, which is their focus, and they were very chill in their response
dbzer0 as an instance considers Lemmygrad to be “fake” Marxist-Leninists (which I believe to be sourced from the western-anarchist demographic of dbzer0 in general, rather than actual familiarity with Marxism-Leninism), the geopolitical stance of dbzer0 as an instance is contrary to Lemmygrad and thus the admins deemed this to be an absolute difference. That said, dbzer0 themself is more symapathetic towards Hexbear as Hexbear has a very large number of Anarchists as well as Marxists, and dbzer0 is an Anarchist.
As for Lemmy.world, I have had my own issues with it and been thoroughly soured by them, you can check my modlog if you want to see it, I don’t really want to turn this into a drama post.
In case you check my modlog, here is the context for the Playstation@Lemmy.zip ban. The moderator banned me for calling out their regurgitation of white supremacist “anti-DEI” nonsense about non-white people being included in God of War. They since deleted their account and locked the sub, now its just bot posts for the most part.
Thanks for further explaining! How did you learn all this?
How do I check your specific modlog? I’ve also had some people randomly attacking me….
They want to keep their noses clean so they can continue being the main character of Lemmy.
All hail the non-offesive median opinion and saying Lu1g1 to bypass filters.
why does your name show banned?
Yep, and they can’t even handle their own current position, hence them attempting to make Sublinks a thing and make their own, worse Lemmy.
Sublinks GitHub looks pretty dead
Figured it’d die, Lemmy has been in dev for years, starting from scratch to rewrite a new form in Java (thanks Edie!) seems like far too much effort for far too little return.
Java, not javascript
Skill issue. @yogthos@lemmy.ml would simply rewrite it from scratch in Clojure in a month.
I thought sublinks was beehaw’s project https://beehaw.org/comment/3809526
Kind of a joint effort from what I’ve seen.
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I run my own instance, so supremely displeased as expected.
As you should be.
Won’t somebody save me from myself!
literally me
I heard the admin is a nazi commie alien on that instance.
My instance admin is also extremely oppressive.
Same
Instance level censorship isn’t much for the user to worry about (I run my own, so it’s zero problem for me). Most censorship happens at the group level by group owners, and the admins on the instance the group is hosted.
I still don’t have a problem with it though. You subscribe to a group on a certain instance, you cannot be too surprised if you get censored there.
Not my instance, but hexbear is so lame. They are supposed a political instance, but you are not allowed to debate any point they dont agree. So whats the point of debating? Also, they want a revolution but are also afraid of meat and offensive words.
The point of politics isn’t to debate, debate is largely useless as people largely license themselves to believe what they want to believe based on their own class interests, changing minds comes from internal investigation. Believe me, I know (and am trying to be better about that). Hexbear is an openly Left-Unity community for Marxists and Anarchists to hang out in, it isn’t a revolutionary organization.
Further, Hexbear isn’t “afraid” of meat, they take a firm pro-vegan stance for ethical and environmental reasons, this is not contradictory to being pro-revolution. Moreover, there isn’t a “fear” of offensive words, but a desire to root out bigotry and chauvanism. This framing of their stances as being based on “fear” and not due to being principled is wrong.
It is precisely what I want.
It’s a little high for my tastes, notably in blocking piracy communities from other servers. I don’t even care to participate in them; it’s a matter of principle.
