• BarqsHasBite
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      198 months ago

      Community note: Bribes are illegal and won’t be tolerated in sparkly clean Brazil.

  • @aceshigh@lemmy.world
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    Good. At least someone is saying something. More people and companies should voice their opinion.

  • CodandChips
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    Brazil gives Meta 72 hours to explain new fact-check policies>

    Meta: we don’t have any

    • @OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
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      58 months ago

      They do, tho. It’s community notes. If multiple people agree on a correction, especially if those people usually disagree with eachother, it becomes the note

    • @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      428 months ago

      All the BRICS have. Brazil just stands out, because its not a country we’ve flagged as “Evil Enemy Run By Inhuman Savages”.

      • @ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml
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        because its not a country we’ve flagged as “Evil Enemy Run By Inhuman Savages”.

        Unless the subject is Amazon deforestation, in which case we have to stop these inhuman savages from destroying this global patrimony (mine). Please don’t ask who’s buying the cattle and soy being grown there or running the mining companies or where I got all this fertile land.

      • xor
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        Oh yeah, Russia is real good at keeping those tech oligarchs in check /s

        BRICS is such a loosely linked group that generalising like that is just never going to be accurate; Indian and South African, for example, policy on tech regulation couldn’t be more different if they tried.

        Don’t get me wrong, I think BRICS is a good organisation for economic cooperation between these very diverse countries, but there’s really no common political, social or economic characteristics.

        Brazil is a good example of that, because under Bolsonaro, it couldn’t have been more different - regulations on big tech and banning X would never have happened under his tenure (well, at least not with the same goals)

      • @cygnus@lemmy.ca
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        948 months ago

        It also helps that unlike the R and the C in BRICS, they aren’t imperialists threatening and/or invading their neighbours. Brazil is a good world citizen.

        • @masquenox@lemmy.world
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          138 months ago

          Brazil is a good world citizen.

          Uhhh, did you forget that Brazil was being run by a fascist war criminal just a short while ago?

          • @cygnus@lemmy.ca
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            78 months ago

            So were lots of countries. At least they learned from their mistake, unlike the US.

            • @masquenox@lemmy.world
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              -98 months ago

              At least they learned from their mistake, unlike the US.

              If Brazil had learned from it’s mistake it WOULDN’T HAVE ALLOWED A FASCIST INTO POWER, genius.

              • @cygnus@lemmy.ca
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                68 months ago

                I meant it in the “fool me once” sense. Americans went for a second helping at the trough of fascism.

                • @masquenox@lemmy.world
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                  18 months ago

                  Americans went for a second helping at the trough of fascism.

                  The US has been pro-fascist long, long before Mussolini gave it a name.

          • xor
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            And now it isn’t, that’s democracy, baby

            I fully agree that Bolsonaro was a straight up demon, but I also agree with the idea that - currently - the administration of Brazil is probably about as good an example of a good world citizen as it gets

            • @masquenox@lemmy.world
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              -108 months ago

              And now it isn’t, that’s democracy,

              Abso-fucking-lutely not. Fascists would NEVER be able to gain power in a truly democratic society. No ifs, ands or butts.

              Fascists are funded into power (and into existence) by CAPITALISTS - adherents to an ideology that is violently incompatible with anything that can be called democratic with a straight face.

              Brazil is not a democratic society. It is a (so-called) “liberal democracy” - something that can be more accurately described as 95% capitalism with some fake democracy substitute thrown in as a legitimising measure.

              That is THE WHOLE POINT of liberalism.

              • xor
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                Democracy isn’t a magic anti-fascist spell, sorry to break it to you. If someone can convince enough of the population to elect them, then they get into power, fascist or not.

                By your definition, there really hasn’t been a “real” democracy ever, frankly, since it depends on there being a state with no imbalance of wealth whatsoever. If that’s how you want to define it, sure, go ahead, but I’m going to keep using a definition of democracy that’s based on how the institutions of elections and the state are built, because that’s a useful way to discuss political systems, and “democracy is when only leaders I like are elected” is not.

                Brazil’s leaders are elected through universal suffrage, its speech and media are (relatively) free, that’s a democracy by any reasonably useful definition. There’s plenty to criticise in how that democracy functions, especially how money and power can influence those outcomes, but there is no perfect democracy, just the best attempts at what people can build within their existing social systems.

                Democracy is a political system, while capitalism is an economic system - understanding how they interact with each other is useful and important, but pretending they’re mutually exclusive is unnecessarily reductive, and closes the space to actually discuss those things.

                Edit: the mere fact that Bolsonaro attempted to retain power by force, but was unable to do so in the face of losing the election is direct evidence that there are functional democratic institutions in Brazil

                • @masquenox@lemmy.world
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                  -108 months ago

                  Democracy isn’t a magic anti-fascist spell,

                  Yes it is, genius. THAT IS LITERALLY WHY IT WAS INVENTED.

                  If someone can convince enough of the population to elect them, then they get into power, fascist or not.

                  If power is conveniently centralized for a fascist to take control of, Clyde, IT MEANS YOU NEVER HAD A DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY TO START OFF WITH.

                  By your definition, there really hasn’t been a blah, blah, blah…

                  How the fuck do you liberals get through the day with all this foaming, nuclear-level incoherence bouncing around inside your heads?

          • @forrgott@lemm.ee
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            58 months ago

            I think you might be confused. They were talking about a country other than the US. 😂

              • @Monomate@lemm.ee
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                -368 months ago

                The old system of using fact-checking agencies was biased, and the content they deemed false had its reach negatively impacted. They were literally the arbiters of truth, and their actions silenced their political opponents’ voices. The new system of Community Notes is superior because it requires approval from people with diverse political alignments to show a fact-check to everyone.

                • @imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee
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                  318 months ago

                  Because remember you need a Nazi and a tankie to agree with facts in order for it to be the real truth.

                  Sometimes reality doesn’t align with political views. Doesn’t mean it’s not facts

        • @Pyro@programming.dev
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          It’s so disappointing. India has a massive tech service industry and could’ve been a force for good, but the government loves their censorship and authoritarianism too much.

    • @themurphy@lemmy.ml
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      Yeah, they found out they could win, when they stuck it to X and straight up banned them until they complied.

      Just like the big tech companies have different ToS for EU consumers.

      Mad respect to them, but it should be normal. But it’s not.

      • @lolrightythen@lemmy.world
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        448 months ago

        Also like California passing public health laws and companies deciding it is easier to comply to the entire U.S. instead of duplicating product lines.

  • @blueamigafan@lemmy.world
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    1378 months ago

    Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine Brazil apparently propping up the internet, but huge swathes of twitter shutdown when Brazil banned it a while back, for a short time.

    • @Monomate@lemm.ee
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      It’s easy to be bold when the US president is weak. I don’t think they’d ban X if Trump was president at the time.

      • @RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com
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        508 months ago

        Hahahahahaha, that was a good one. Do another one where you pretend Trump wasn’t the biggest, weakest idiot ever to hold this office.

      • Flying Squid
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        208 months ago

        It’s easy to be bold when the US president is weak.

        Vladimir Putin agrees and is greatly looking forward to it.

      • @forrgott@lemm.ee
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        268 months ago

        So strong he needs both hands to drink a glass of water?

        Or is it the way he literally shits himself in the middle of a rally? Oh wait, of course! Cause the only thing strong about that dementia riddled moron is his stench.

        Imagine looking at Trump and thinking, “Wow, him strong!” Fucking weird, I tell ya what…

        • The Quuuuuill
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          88 months ago

          those maga idiots will use that as proof there’s a global conspiracy against america and that their only protection is donald trump

      • neoman4426
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        Confessed serial rapist Donald Trump is one of the weakest presidents we’ve ever had, the fuck are you talking about. We, quite literally, have video of world leaders laughing at him to his face. Jeff Epstein’s best friend who bragged that they have the same “On the younger side” tastes didn’t accomplish a single one of his campaign promises the first time, other than tax cuts for the super rich.

    • veroxii
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      238 months ago

      “there is none”. Explained in 10 seconds. Happy weekend!

    • @deus@lemmy.world
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      248 months ago

      Enjoy it while it lasts. We like to immitate the US so in 2026 it’s very likely that we’ll elect a reactionary idiot again.

        • @alphabethunter@lemmy.world
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          58 months ago

          If we ban social media companies* we won’t.

          Privately owned social media is a tool of media manipulation. You can change the weights of some inscrutable algorithm and boost exposure to political ideologies that you want while no one can truly make a case against you, “it’s just the algorithm” they say. There’s no scenario where they should be allowed to exist in a sovereign country.

  • Amoxtli
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    Brazil needs to solve their high homicide rate before demanding things from Meta. Serving the people instead of being petty.

  • @Loce@lemmy.world
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    Brasil, please ban facebook. First twitter then facebook. Fuck the gready corporate assholes. Someone needs to make a first step and create a precedent, we need this. Social media will be (already is) the downfall of our civilization.