The conversations are amazing
Quick! Somebody link to one thing the US government has said about China.
You lose points by googling, because everyone upvoting surely has seen the US government say something about China and knows where to find that document.
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It’s usually westerners that love to depict the Chinese president as a yellow bear in a deragatory manner.
Massive reach.
So offending the state in China invokes the punishment of getting to experience the American reality?
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I don’t think most Chinese people are racist crackers like you anyway
Chinese people can be racist af. Source: am 華人
Well, keyword being “most”. There is indeed some pretty racist shit about India on Rednote.
It must be so easy being an anti-communist, you can just make to whatever unfounded bullshit you like and expect people to believe you
China isn’t communist in the slightest
To be fair, it’s really easy to be anti communist if you believe the USSR was or China is communist and not were/are dictatorships.
Least incoherent .worlder anti-communist
In communist China everyone gets a daily ration of 5 crickets and tree bark scraps, that you’re only allowed to eat after giving Xi Jinping a sloppy kiss in the mouth.
That’s a rookie bullshit, you need to tell something like: “People have nothing to eat. I have seen personally children eat dirt.”
“They have to push the trains all the way between two stations and some of them have to secretly steal bolts and pieces from the train and eat them because they have no actual food.”
The unexpected propaganda win for the PRC too lol. Anyone who might have been doubting the benefits of the dictatorship of the proletariat will now have first hand evidence that life is absolutely not better in capitalism
The social score thing isn’t really propaganda as much as it is idiots believing whatever they read. It started from what was essentially thinly veiled racism, and became “true” because people kept hearing it.
It’s funny that Xiaohongshu is popping off right on the cusp of a TikTok ban. They’re not even flocking to established US alternatives.
Were the Uyghur concentration camps fake too?
😮😮😮😮
picture 2: not real and technically imposible to do that cause we have 1.4 billion people
This makes me imagine how social credit score department people hands look like if social credit score is real
Lol people actually believed that social credit score bullshit?
But… social credit literally is real… There are government legislations on this. It is not a conspiracy theory.
On the other hand Western media definitely has exaggerated and demonized it a lot. The social credit is basically your credit score, but it is more expansive and uses information some might see as encroaching on their personal privacy and freedoms.
The credit score in China is to keep tabs on businesses to prevent corruption and excesses, just basic things the US used to do back in the 1950s, but would now be considered “authoritarian”.
The credit scores in the US are used to prevent regular people from getting housing.
wdym by “basically your credit score”?
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In America we call it the credit score…
This right here.
And the point is that an average American barely knows how those work, or exactly what information the government and or private financial and other companies collect about them (it’s a lot) or how much it impacts their daily lives (deeply), in the same way the average Chinese person barely knows just how much surveillance their government is doing on them (it’s a lot) or how much it impacts their daily lives (deeply).
This post is such tankie bullshit.
Pretending like only one government does (internal and external) propaganda, or only one government is oppressing and lying to its own people (not to mention people in other countries), or that the average person in any country know, or is willing to admit to themselves, never mind others, and especially never mind people from a country you’ve been propagandised against from birth, the flaws of their own government is not only laughable, and hypocritical, but also massively counterproductive.
There’s a big difference between the commonly reported western idea of a social credit system, and the actual credit system that exists in China. Chiefly, it is primarily for businesses, not citizens. You’re making an error in attempting to equate the scope.
Chinaman regime good, daddy Sam regime bad🤡
It’s a fucking large state, their entire MO is control of population to rule them for personal gains. How naive is anyone to still LARP “my daddy good, my daddy strong, your daddy bad” bullshit.
Adult fuxking people jfc
First, don’t use that term to describe Chinese people, that has racist connotations.
As for your claim that the entire MO of the PRC’s government is “control for personal gain,” can you elaborate?
First, don’t use that term to describe Chinese people, that has racist connotations.
That’s a you a problem dear;)
Communist party of China and their state controled oligarchs have gotten wealthy. Now there is a large working class that doesn’t get much benefit from the regime and the growth model is stalled ie the same parasitic set up we see across all regimes currently.
the average Chinese person barely knows just how much surveillance their government is doing on them (it’s a lot) or how much it impacts their daily lives (deeply).
Unlike you, of course. You, the enlightened Westerner, the true free thinker, know so much more than those orientals.
So I’m not crazy? I could’ve sworn I looked into it, and it was basically just a credit score where you also get dinged for police interaction or living with someone who committed a crime
“Criminal record”
Not sure how this shit works in China but it is all about the same at the end of the day.
That type of system is not really accurate. There is a credit system, but it’s largely for companies and businesses as a way to exert control over shady business practices.
Or skin tone.
Indeed.
Social credit scores were a thing. People were punished for low scores. It only happened in a few cities and it was described as a pilot.
Obviously the pilot got a lot of bad press in and outside China and it is no longer happening
And they believe Uyghur genocide too. They’re fucking brainwashed. They completely lack critical thinking capabilities.
A great way to get people to understand is to insult them. That always works well
Plenty of people also still believe the secret Chinese police stations bullshit.
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Never heard of mintpress. Looked it up and ooof. What a record
Uh huh. Looked them up where, MB/FC? Quoting myself:
The first step is to understand the media, which Media Bias/Fact Check and the Ad Fontes Media* are never going to teach you. The only people who are taught it are those who get degrees in marketing, public relations, political science, history, and journalism; and even then only some of them.
The new post-Trump/“post-truth” media literacy curricula won’t teach it to you either, because it was paid for and crafted by the US military-industrial complex: New Media Literacy Standards Aim to Combat ‘Truth Decay’.
This week, the RAND Corporation released a new set of media literacy standards designed to support schools in this task.
The standards are part of RAND’s ongoing project on “truth decay”: a phenomenon that RAND researchers describe as “the diminishing role that facts, data, and analysis play in our political and civic discourse.”
None of it is a secret, though, and it can be learned.
- Noam Chomsky - The 5 Filters of the Mass Media Machine
- Propaganda model
- Edward Bernays
- Walter Lippmann
- Council on Foreign Relations
- Powell Memorandum
- The Trilateral Commission’s report, The Crisis of Democracy
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*I’ve criticized MBFC & Ad Fontes before:
mintpress
From Wikipedia:
MintPress News supported former Syrian president Bashar al-Assad, and the governments of Russia and Iran.[3][4] It opposes the governments of Israel and Saudi Arabia,[5] and reports geopolitical events from an anti-Western perspective.[6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MintPress_News
And
Further, they have frequently promoted conspiracy theories and misinformation regarding Covid-19, such as this A DARPA-FUNDED IMPLANTABLE BIOCHIP TO DETECT COVID-19 COULD HIT MARKETS BY 2021.
does it surprise you when a non neglible amount of americans believe the earth is flat? or that vaccines have nanomachines to control your brain? 😂
I mean I feel real stupid reading into it, but up until now, yes
American here, yes. To be fair I don’t think about China a lot.
Try to keep in mind that is far from the only thing you’ve been lied to about. Not just about China either. The US propaganda machine is massive, and far reaching.
Just goes to show you how deeply permeating the Red Scare is. Reminds me of that “exploding helmets” story that was obviously bogus but peddled as though it was true.
That’s one I never even heard of until now! I’m not surprised that the CIA-backed Falun Gong’s Epoch Times covered it: China Develops Helmets for Soldiers With Self-Destruct Button: Report. You can just make up any zany thing about the US’s designated baddies, and people will buy it.
Yep, I remember that one as it came out. Super silly.
You have credit scores in the US?
We have real credit scores in the US that keep people unhoused
Yes, that’s the sad truth. It doesn’t have to be a government program to be a systemic issue.
我爱小红书！I love rednote! So many cool people and I’m brushing up on my mandarin 😎
Despite the unhappy circumstances, it’s kinda nice Chinese and Americans interacting on social media.
The fact this isn’t typically possible because of bans in China is not so nice. Neither is the fact the US is going down the same road instead of proper privacy laws.
But still, kinda nice
Wow, the content on the Chinese controlled platform matches the Chinese narrative? Shocking.
China good, US bad! It is known!
This is breaking my brain… world news told me it was bad and told me what “experts” say about privacy.
Thanks for the flags, I needed them /s
China propaganda machine goes brrrr
The way people really suddenly think oh yeah China is just a good country like a European democracy where you can live well is flabbergasting. Of course a dictatorship with massive censorship and suppression of minorities has mostly positive comments.
And of course, many people that aren’t part of a harassed minority or politically active against the rulers aren’t saying horrible stuff against them (which wouldn’t be seen anyway).
