cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/37218429
When called out on it, they then doubled down on this dogshit take: https://archive.ph/quYyb
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You mean to tell me that CEOs are currently cuddling up with the president? A VPN company CEO at that? I am flabbergasted. Shocked even.
Business as usual. How are people still shocked when this occurs?
This is bewildering. What a shame.
I had minor gripes with some of their services but Proton has broadly been pretty great in my eyes.
Some CEOs baffle me. Surely, even if they are massive fans of one US political party over the other, they’d have the sense to keep it to themselves to prevent it becoming a thing that causes a fallout with existing/potential customers? But no. They’re too fucking narcissistic for that, and they think everyone wants to hear their opinions and follow them.
Most of the companies/ceos doing this over the past few weeks do know better. That’s why they didnt say anything earlier. The reason they would be publicly taking this stance now is that they either expect to be rewarded by the incoming administration, or they hope to avoid punitive retaliation.
Support business policies of a group that removes oversight, accountability, responsibility, and makes it so he keeps more money.
What do US domestic politics have to do with a small Swiss company? Is there an indication that Proton would be sanctioned otherwise?
https://www.openbiz.io/blog/15-things-to-know-about-u-s-taxes-for-foreign-companies
- Foreign companies are generally subject to U.S. tax on U.S. source income. This includes income from selling goods or services in the United States, from owning or leasing property in the United States, and from investing in U.S. securities.
So yeah, doing business in the US, getting paid by US people, subjects them to some US regulations. Hence, they are affected by US domestic policy and politics.
Can americans not use credit processors that reside in another country? This sounds like a non issue for proton as long as they dont market to americans.
You expect everyone to do that?
Do what? Enter their credit card info into a webform? Sure, why not?
No, go out of their way to sign up with foreign payment agencies.
Surely that would be on the service, not the customer, no? They would charge a foreign transaction fee, which is annoying, but it can also be avoided by using pretty much any travel card.
Guy who sells VPNs really supportive of political party that blocks parts of the internet regionally
It’s a shame I have a year subscription to them. I’ll be cancelling and moving the second it runs outs.
Cancel it now so you dont forget it while it autorenews.
Already did!
This comment right here absolutely nails it.
The Republicans have installed a Supreme Court that guts antitrust at every step, and Andy gives them a pass. Anyone that’s that bloody oblivious of how the GOP have spent 25 years trying to remove consumer protections at every turn shouldn’t be managing a popsicle stand, let alone an email service so many rely on to be private.
What a redundant muffin.
People here need to read about how fascism in Germany and Italy were good for business but terrible for the workers. About how the moneyed interests played a role in the rise of fascism in both as a defense mechanism against unions and socialism.
When called out on it, they then doubled down on this dogshit take:
That makes it seem like Andy here just doubled down, but it’s way worse than that. The company released an official statement doubling down on Yen’s stance.
Canceled my sub last night, ported everything to Tuta today. No issues this far.
Super disappointing, but is what it is and I’ll move on.
I already used my proton email as contact method on some published stuff that I can’t modify. Do you have some tips for that situation, or am I stuck now?
I’d probably just set up a forwarding rule and call it good if you can’t modify it.
Right now my Proton account has a few straggling outliers forwarding to my new accounts, but I’ve mostly switched everything over to emails that are for a domain I own so it’s a little easier moving forward.
Thank you for the suggestion
I really don’t understand this compulsion people have to publicly announce their political support.
Like, this guy could have just said nothing, literally just not do anything, and he’d be better off.
That’s not how sucking up to fascists works though.
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Cancelled my subscription today. I will be finding an alternative.
I had just signed up a few nights ago to try it out before subscribing, it’s an easy cancel at this point and is being done momentarily.
I had it for a few months. Luckily it was easy to swap out this early on.
Time to find a new option.
an alternative for email or vpn? I’m also in the market for a new email now :/
Im happy with mailbox.org so far!
Email!
VPN I am sticking with Mullvad.
RiseUp.net for both. Disroot.org for email (And other services).
Do you happen to have an invite code for rise up? Seems I need one to register
How tall is Andy Yen?
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This is basically my thinking and why I will be shifting away from their products as well
He’s another mini Elon wannabe, obviously. They’re coming out of the woodwork lately.
I hope people are taking notes so these scum don’t get to skate later when it falls down around their ears.
Republicans haven’t stood for the little guy for at least….40 years?
