Call me lazy if you want but I don’t think someone should need to look up a guide on how to buy a video game without feeling scammed. I feel like I’ve been seeing this more and more lately with abstractly named tiered bundles, complete editions that don’t contain everything, and remasters of games that feel like they should have been updates.

I’ve listed a few examples below but can you think of any others?

Examples:


The photo I attached is a buying guide for Hitman 3. A game that still confuses me. For those that don’t know Hitman 1 and 2 can be played in Hitman 3 but the game is sold in bundles. I believe part one contains missions from the first game but the standard edition, the next level up, does not contain all the levels for Hitman 2 but does have all the levels for Hitman 3. The deluxe edition has all of Hitman 2 and a good chunk of the small DLC like cosmetics and challenge missions but not all of them.

Before Hitman 3 was rebranded as World of Assassination I believe you could avoid repaying for the games you already own (at least on Steam) but I don’t think that’s the case any more.

So as someone who owns the original Hitman I believe I essentially need to rebuy it as part of the deluxe edition if I want to play Hitman 1 and 2.


Intravenous for example was released in July 2021 and from my understanding is being remastered with features from the sequel, Intravenous 2 (released August 2024), as a DLC for the sequel under the name Intravenous IV2.

  • @ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    363 months ago

    I know this is too simplistic a view but… if you run into this issue, don’t buy anything.

    If you really want to play that game still, sail the high seas.

    • 100% this. Played quite a bit of hitman on the high seas version. One day I decided I was gonna buy it on the next sale (around the time freelancer mode came out since I figured I enjoy it enough and updates would be easier). Oh boy! Their pricing model is garbage and the “sale” makes it seem way cheaper than it actually is if you want the whole game. Gave up on buying after that.

    • @detectivemittens@beehaw.org
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      13 months ago

      I played and loved all of the Hitman games up until the World of Assassination trilogy because I couldn’t figure out what edition to get and all of the different editions felt like a cash grab.

  • @ObsidianZed@lemmy.world
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    33 months ago

    I loved the Hitman games when I was younger, but somewhere around Hitman Absolution, I just lost interest because of this. They renamed this, resold that, combined this with that.

    Last time I downloaded something, it was to try it in VR when it said there was a VR patch. I couldn’t do anything. I found out later, it’s only for PSVR 1 and only on PS4 with the camera and a dual shock 4 controller that has the light bar for tracking. Literally nothing explained that anywhere.

    It’s an absolute mess and a shame.

  • @Harrk@lemmy.world
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    13 months ago

    Final Fantasy XI. It wasn’t necessarily difficult to get the game but creating an account and subscribing was very painful (and still is). In a weird way, it served as a filter for those who probably wouldn’t enjoy the game anyway.

  • @stormesp@lemm.ee
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    63 months ago

    Hitman really is a mess, according to EGS i own Hitman 1 and Hitman 3, but i doubt i really own Hitman 3, probably is a starter pack with the first chapter as i dont think the full Hitman 3 has been given away? On top of that you enter at the shop page and everything is such a mess that i just dont have any will to install the game and try to uncover what i own and what i dont nor i have any will to pay for something that im not sure what im buying and if im paying for something i have already.

    • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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      43 months ago

      They really fucked up the PC release for that game. I think there was a period where Hitman 2 and Hitman 3 were exclusive to different store platforms, and they had to publish a guide to link everything together with an account.

      EGS gives out so many freebies, that I wouldn’t be surprised if you snagged Hitman 3 in that and just forgot about it.

      • TheDrink [he/him]
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        33 months ago

        a period where Hitman 2 and Hitman 3 were exclusive to different store platform

        It was a yearlong Epic Game Store exclusive despite the publishers promising not to do that, and when they finally released on Steam there was a bunch of issues for people who owned H1 and H2 accessing their levels/progress in H3.

  • datendefekt
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    43 months ago

    Fuck Train Sim World. They release regular updates even though all have exactly the same base gameplay. It’s a pain figuring out which DLC requires some other DLC, or if the DLC you got is still compatible with your version of the game, or gets improved, or which version of the game has what included.

  • @sanpo@sopuli.xyz
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    273 months ago

    Calling that Hitman bullshit “confusing” is way too charitable.

    Not too long ago Steam listed something called “Hitman 3” (they changed it now).
    Imagine my surprise when it turned out to include only the game launcher, without any actual content that could be reasonably called “Hitman 3”. If you tried to start a mission they redirected you to buy it first…

    Thank god for the refunds…

  • @bluelander@lemmy.ml
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    13 months ago

    Fully agreed. This kind of thing drives me nuts and other people act like I’m crazy.

    I don’t want a “base” game for $70. I don’t like the idea of spending so much and still missing content or cosmetics that in previous generations would’ve been unlockable in the game. It’s frustrating and disappointing.

    The recent Space Marine did it and turned me off. Stop giving me tiers of products. It’s fatiguing!

  • @Generic_Idiot@lemm.ee
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    13 months ago

    Soon as they started with the whole “seasons” thing I checked out.

    I’m old now, if I can’t just buy the fucking game I’m not buying it.

  • @mrfriki@lemmy.world
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    13 months ago

    I consider that whatever I get when I finally get a game for €15-20 is OK. No need to worry about “special” editions or expensive launch day prices.

    • CorrodedOP
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      Rereleases and remasters can be a hurdle. I was thinking about playing a Final Fantasy game about a year ago but got caught up in the pros and cons of each version and what games are connected.

      From my understanding most don’t continue on the story but I believe one of the games has a character return, I think it’s Cloud, and I think seven was remastered and separated into two games.

      Did you mean something else though? Like I said I haven’t played them

  • CodexArcanum
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    63 months ago

    I think I ended up buying HM 1, 2, and 3 individually in GOTY bundles over 3 or 4 consecutive winter steam sales. I did end up with all the missions (I think) but I’m surely missing some premium cosmetic dlc that I couldn’t possibly care less about.

    Admittedly, if Steam puts out a “finish your collection” bundle that costs me like $.97 to add a few cosmetics in, I’d probably buy it just to feel like I’d “finished” the collection.

    Hitman is truly the worst though (also a truly emblematic case of shit publisher, hero studio). Especially when you consider all thr pre-WoA games, I’m not sure it’s even possible to be sure you have all the games. Only like, Wolfenstein, has more confusing reboots.

    • Random Dent
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      13 months ago

      Yeah I own 1 and 2, all I need is a button that’s like “click this to get the rest of it” and I’ll do it. But I haven’t picked up 3 because I don’t want to spend an hour figuring out how to buy the fucking thing that will probably end up not getting me all the content anyway.

  • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝
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    53 months ago

    Warhammer Total War, the series where DLCs feed forward to the new title.

    Elder Scrolls Online, there is a base game, a sub that does not include the base game or expansions, an expansion upgrade and expansion editions, and content that are not technically expansions.

    • @StalinIsMaiWaifu@lemmygrad.ml
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      23 months ago

      To explain Total Warhammer to others-

      You buy Warhammer 3 and you get 11 factions (5 DoC, 2 Kislev, 2 Cathay, 2 secret) a Warhammer 3 only sandbox (Realm of Chaos) and the good sandbox (Mortal Empires)

      Warhammer 3 FLC/DLC can be used in RoC, ME, and multiplayer

      Warhammer 1 & 2 content unlocks more factions for multiplayer and ME. Each DLC will unlock 1-2 factions with their base rosters, and 2-4 unique units. The two base games unlock 8* factions and their base roster each.

    • @UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml
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      23 months ago

      Warhammer Total War, the series where DLCs feed forward to the new title.

      Love the game, but you’re right. It was actually going to be worse at warhammer 3’s release. Creative Assembly was planning to gatekeep the biggest campaign behind owning previous games. They caved under public pressure fortunately.

  • Tabitha ☢️[she/her]
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    63 months ago

    I don’t think someone should need to look up a guide on how to buy a video game without feeling scammed.

    there goes all NFT/crypto games lol.

  • @catalyst@lemmy.world
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    53 months ago

    Kind of only tangentially related but if you bought FF7 Remake originally on PS4 there is a way to claim a free upgrade to the PS5 / Intergrade version. But it was so well hidden in the online store I had to watch a youtube video to figure out where to find it.