• @belit_deg@lemmy.world
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          I’m lost for words.

          …what if the whole family is watching? Does everyone have to raise their hands and yell “McDonalds”? Including the kids?

          This might just as well be used in “smart” fridges. “Do this corporate dance to get 20% off your next Corn Flakes”

            • @Jericho_Kane@lemmy.org
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              I haven’t seen an ad in like 15 years or so (at home) and i already find them incredibly dystopian and weird. I don’t really understand how people put up with that right now, but it kind of tells me that they would actually do the laola wave and yell pepsi at their screen. I found my old VHS collection the other day and watched karate kid that i recorded as a child. I think it had 2 ad breaks who were really short, and back then we thought that it’s getting a bit much with the ads.

              • @fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de
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                You raise a good point.

                I’m much the same in that I just refuse to watch anything with ads. They really are dystopian and weird.

                I also get that same feeling when I see someone just grinding through youtube ads, but people that do that just don’t seem to have any awareness of the interaction - it’s just part of the show.

                The weirdest of all is when people (usually brave browser enthusiasts?) try to claim that “some” ads are actually a good thing because it makes them aware of some product they actually desire which they wouldn’t have been aware of otherwise. I’ll take blissful ignorance thanks.

                So yes, I can imagine people doing this stuff without really thinking about it.

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      Wasnt there also something about showing ads while your show is paused now too?

      I’m ready to go back to kodi.

  • Jesus
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    Ok, I’ll bite.

    Did OP just time travel 25 years and post something from Slashdot?

    • @Hegz@lemmy.ca
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      I was just thinking the slashdot used to be a massive source of traffic across the internet.

      And now it’s a sink. How times change.

  • The Menemen!
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    They really do take 80s and 90s dystopian movies as inspiration. Almost funny how ridiculous unimaginatively evil that are.

  • @Squizzy@lemmy.world
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    There are no high end middle class cars now. Used be if you got an audi, merc, beamer etc. You were part of an in group where youngot extras. Now you spend 80K and they want you to subscribe for cruise control and AC. Lambourghini and porsche dropped back to entrr the market and only brought their badge.

  • @shalafi@lemmy.world
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    132 months ago

    Stop 👏 Buying 👏 New 👏 Shit 👏

    I could run a whole community on how to recycle, reuse, repurpose. Why the hell are people buying new cars?!

    • @sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today
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      52 months ago

      Yup. Keeping old cars going on fossil fuels is so much better than millions of new cars being built every year, and in order for them to be built they ship them around the world to seperate facilities. I could go on and on

    • @lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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      Because I’ve seen what people do with their vehicles. I bought my car new 13 years ago and I’ve been able to make sure it’s been properly maintained the entire time and no one else’s crud is all over the interior. I intend to keep it until it falls apart. Prior to that I had a truck I bought used and got maybe 5 years out of it before the transmission died with only medium mileage. I had maintained it but who knows what the person before me did with it.

      That said if nothing changes with all this touchscreen infotainment shit I don’t know what I’ll do. I’ve hated every new vehicle I’ve been in the last few years.

    • yeehawOP
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      Sorry I don’t check if a webpage requires 3rd party scripts before I post them for you. Leave it blocked and moved on I guess?

  • @SulaymanF@lemmy.world
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    I completely crossed off all GM cars due to lack of CarPlay. I am boycotting Tesla. I don’t trust BMW because they tried to make heated seats a subscription. Now Jeep and Stellantis?

    • @MattTheProgrammer@lemmy.world
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      Japanese manufacturers are not perfect but seem to be the least interested in doing this kind of anti-consumer nonsense, at least for now. I have been happy with every Mazda I’ve owned in the last decade (3 in total) for what it’s worth.

      • @dan@upvote.au
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        I just wish Mazda had a good EV. Their EVs just aren’t that good at the moment. I leased a BMW iX a few months ago, but my old car (which I still have) is a 2012 Mazda 3. Love the EV experience and I don’t think I’ll buy a gas powered car ever again.

        • @MattTheProgrammer@lemmy.world
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          12 months ago

          Any pure EV from Mazda is actually a rebadged Chinese car but I forget which brand. It’s basically the only way Mazda could sell EVs in China and that’s what they offer to the European market as well. In North America, I know we only have the PHEV variants but no EV only.

      • @PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world
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        82 months ago

        Yup, Toyota has been solid for me. Though admittedly, they’re also one of the worst in regards to data privacy; You should assume that every single thing you do in a Toyota is being recorded and sent back to a Toyota server for ad/tracking purposes.

          • @dan@upvote.au
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            Most cars have a SIM card with a very basic data/phone service. In many jurisdictions, it’s a legal requirement for cars to have a button to call emergency services, so they need phone connectivity for that. It’s also used for software updates, map updates, and of course, data collection.

            • @naught101@lemmy.world
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              Holy crap I feel old now. Since when? I’m still driving a car without a touch screen, and that’s never going to change.

              • @dan@upvote.au
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                I’m not sure how long.

                My older car (2012 Mazda 3) didn’t have a touch screen. I replaced the radio with a touch screen Pioneer one that supports Android Auto. I’d definitely recommend doing that! It’s nice having Google Maps on an older car. The third-party radios tend to be better than the OEM ones (they have to be, otherwise nobody would buy them) and I don’t think Pioneer does data collection of any sort.

    • @Absaroka@lemmy.world
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      Mercedes also includes a number of items as a subscription in some countries. Some stuff is app related. Others are things like getting full use of your rear-steering wheels and unlocking extra horsepower.

    • @GalacticTaterTot@lemmy.world
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      This only applies to GM EVs. Friend has a 2025 ICE Chevy which has both AA and CarPlay. Still dumb that the EVs don’t have it though.

    • @SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today
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      Something to consider…

      Elon may be going down a conservative rabbit hole these days, but this is the sort of thing Tesla would never ever ever do. And things like using the telematic system to sell your location and speed to insurance companies. Never happened on a Tesla. You may not like the guy, but the cars are fucking solid.

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          I’ve done it. I think it might have opened the charge port or something. What do you think happens?

        • @SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today
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          That practice was halted and now the vehicle video is under MUCH stricter control with an option to not share any of it at all.
          Given the choice, I’d rather have some Tesla employee joking about what I park next to than Tesla Inc selling my driving data to insurance companies like most other automakers do…

      • nocturne
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        42 months ago

        Doesn’t Tesla lock larger battery capacity begging a paywall?

        • @SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today
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          That was from years ago.

          Tesla used to sell cars rated by pack capacity. For example the ‘P85D’ was the performance model, 85 kWh pack, dual motor.
          There was also a 40 kWh (cheaper) and 60 kWh version.
          After a while they stopped building 40 kWh packs and just software-locked the 60 kWh pack to only have 40 kWh of usable capacity. I think for a while they offered an upgrade where you could pay to unlock the extra capacity.

          I don’t think they’ve done that in some time. I know when I bought my car (model y long range) they didn’t even advertise the pack capacity nor was any upgrade offered. The only paywall thing I’ve seen with Tesla is FSD and they’re pretty transparent about that. I don’t think they’re awful for paywalling it, because if they build the car without the FSD hardware it won’t have other safety systems like lane departure notification.

      • @moakley@lemmy.world
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        Oh, he’s just going down a rabbit hole! He’s going on a cute little adventure where he does a fucking Nazi salute in front of the whole country, then proceeds to recklessly dismantle huge parts of the US government, but it’s all just part of his magical little journey! Teehee!

      • nocturne
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        22 months ago

        I am still awaiting my first map update to my nav system that has free lifetime map updates, my truck will be 10 this year.

      • @DicJacobus@lemmy.world
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        62 months ago

        Toyota Sales here Boy do I have some BMW Heated seat subscription crap to sell you

        (Its not quite as bad as BMW. But one thing that really irks customers is the remote starter is restricted to a subscription service. unless you’re one of the lucky ones who got a vehicle that installed the wrong part/fuses. in which case you can still remote start your car with the fob. its still very finnicky)

        • @Podunk@lemmy.world
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          Yeah that remote start subscription really pissed me off. If i could confirm a way to give them even less data i would.

    • @4grams@lemmy.world
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      312 months ago

      I’m on year 9 of my 10 year car plan. Current vehicle is supposed to become the kidmobile and I planned on a new one.

      I won’t buy a new car though. If I do replace mine, it will be a used, unconnected car. I am so tired of iPads on wheels.

      • @thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org
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        my 2008 BMW is the last without a computer screen and none of that stupid knob and I had to seek it out but it was absolutely worth it. Bonus that I can actually work on the car my self!

        • DefederateLemmyMl
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          I think cars peaked ca. 2010. Anything added after that are annoyances or things being taken away.

          If I could get a brand new facelift E90, that would probably be my next car.

  • @Bosht@lemmy.world
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    I’ve known several Jeep owners over the last decade and those that weren’t buying it strictly for the ‘Jeep clout’ as an actual vehicle/daily driver had constant issues, while under warranty, and dealt with issues even trying to get said warranty work done. Like that wasn’t enough for me, on top of that I had a mechanic with his own shop that said he’d never touch another Jeep because of how horribly they are designed to work on. Anything from ease of access to work on the engine to bolts stripping out because they were overtorqued during assembly and made with shit metals that would sooner melt than come off in one piece. Now this? Yeah, hope they go bankrupt. This is just as bad as BMW and their ‘pay a subscription for seat warmers’ bullshit.

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      Yeah I’ve never heard anything good about jeeps in general. Now they are being run further into the ground by trying to become a luxury brand. At least when it was just a shitty jeep, it was still a somewhat cheap shitty jeep.

      • @ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world
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        When I was young, you (supposedly) could still buy WWII-era original Jeeps disassembled and packed into crates in cosmoline. I always wanted one of those but never had any desire to own a modern one.

    • @conditional_soup@lemm.ee
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      You know, I’ve got to give their marketing team props for managing to sell a vehicle with the engineering quality of a Saturn to people with more money than sense for a whole ass order of magnitude more than it’s worth. Game recognizes game.

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        Its not marketing it’s that they extend credit to anyone who comes through the door. 550 credit score? No problem sir, here is your $62500 RAM 1500, loaded with options. If you can’t pay $1000/month for a Kia why not splurge and not pay $2000/month for an optioned out truck?

    • HubertManne
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      dodge in general did not do well on realiability, Thing is they have neat engineering. So I loved the grand caravan but they killed it to try and get folks to pay toyota prices for their shit and its like no. You vehicles have to be ten grand cheaper so that you amoratize the repair bills.

      • @RebekahWSD@lemmy.world
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        The dodge caravan was my teenage car. I loved it. Big. Ugly. No one wanted to drive with me and that was perfect because they also would have tried smoking in the car and I’d have broken out in hives. I miss you, dodge caravan.

        • HubertManne
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          Yeah its to bad they got rid of it and they did some things that ruined the pacifica that took its place. For people with limited mobility the seats are the perfect height where you don’t drop into them and you don’t have to climb up into them. Being able to stow all the seats and in more recent time the roof rack is just incredibly useful. Then all the basic minivan things are really great. sliding side doors, the rear window winglet things and then the rear hatch. urge to suddenly go camping just have to back it up to the firepit and you can roast marshmellows in the rain.

  • @maxalmonte14@lemmy.world
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    382 months ago

    “You almost ran over a five year old with your oversized vehicle, thanks for breaking! This segment is brought to you thanks to BetterHelp…”

    • @TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works
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      82 months ago

      or better yet “You just ran over a single mother while missing her child! this segment brought to you by BetterHelp, you’re gonna need it!”

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      102 months ago

      Oh this is the first time I’ve seen this wiki in the wild, neat!

  • Jay
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    Stellantis, the parent company of Jeep, Dodge, Chrysler, and Ram,

    Not just a Jeep thing. at least not for long.

  • @harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I was looking for a car a few months ago and was looking at newer models, used, but mostly less than a decade old. Then I started reading about all the tracking and such.

    I gave in to my inner teenager and bought a 2001 Porsche 911.

    The entertainment center can connect via Bluetooth but there’s no Android Auto, no navigation. It has Sirius XM but I never had a subscription to it and never will.

    I might add a backup camera but that’s it. My phone is more than enough tracking, even with as much of it shut off as possible.

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        Thanks! The next car on the list was a 2004 Honda Civic Si hatchback manual.

        I honestly would have been happy with either car. Having so much fun with the Porsche though.

    • SGG
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      This is the way.

      Add in a magnetic charger phone mount and you’re golden in my opinion.

      • @harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        22 months ago

        A previous owner mounted one where the cigarette lighter was. I’m going to replace it soon since it doesn’t really fit - I can’t charge my phone in the holder.

        Maybe I’ll finally learn FreeCAD and print my own.

        • @Nerdulous@lemm.ee
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          22 months ago

          If you do want to learn a guy on YouTube by the name of mangojelly has been extremely inciteful for me