Jeep hasn’t made a ‘safe’ car in their entire existence, why start now?

Whoever designed their headrests does not have a human shaped skull

Just sit at the lights with the brake and accelerator pressed at the same time 👍 what could go wrong?

That would reduce fuel usage.

I bet that those ad guys haven’t even considered or promoted the fact that they can reduce carbon emissions.

Vehicles have their own modems now

Pihole at home with a personal VPN (wireguard, tailscale, head scale, etc) that routes all your phone traffic through it.

Works pretty good, and you can always add additional blacklists if something still gets through.

See, they’re probably just framing it in negative terms. Just has to be presented in the right way.

https://www.telenav.com/blog/why-in-car-advertising-works

Why In-Car Advertising Works

For over two decades, advertising has fueled the online and mobile world. What can it do for your car?

Advertising is worth it to the consumer.

In-car ads are a win-win for drivers and automakers.

In-car ads can also be rather helpful while on the drive.

As a matter of fact, a recent McKinsey Report [Monetizing Car Data, McKinsey & Company September 2016] indicates that most consumers would prefer ads for connected navigation service.

The way to think of it isn’t “ads come up whenever my car stops”, but “ads go away whenever it starts moving!”

Drivers will never see an ad while their vehicles are in motion. Ads automatically disappear whenever the car is moving or when users interact with other in-dash functions. For example, when a driver starts her vehicle, a relevant ad will appear on her dashboard. The moment the driver shifts into reverse to back out the driveway, the ad automatically disappears.

We need people to stop buying shit if they’ve seen an ad for it.

Somehow

You can’t, they control major parts of the car and cost thousands to replace when they inevitably fail.

It’s over $10k in Australia for a Corolla infotainment system, the cars won’t drive without one, once the infotainment systems die in the future the cars are scrap metal.

“you agreed to display ads on your vehicles. This vehicle is mine. You may not display ads in it.”

Honestly I’d have a lawyer on the phone in a heartbeat. I’d be surprised if someone hasn’t already started a lawsuit.

Yeah, that’s another thing that bugs me about products that can be remotely-updated and especially those which don’t currently represent an ongoing revenue stream. I think that it’s a broader problem, too, not just cars.

I was kind of not enthusiastic when I discovered that TenCent bought the video game Oxygen Not Included and started pushing data-harvesting updates into it via Steam. As things stand, that’s optional. But any company could do the same with other games and not have it be optional. If you figure that all the games out there that have already been sold aren’t actually generating revenue but do represent the option to push and execute code on someone’s computer, they have value to some other company that could purchase them and monetize that.

Then you figure that the same applies to browser extensions.

And apps on phones.

And all those Internet of Things devices that can talk to the network, cameras and microphones and all sorts of stuff.

There’s a lot of room for people to sit down and say “what I have is a hook into someone else’s stuff…now what things might I do to further monetize that? Or who might I sell that hook to who might be interested in doing that?”

Like, if I buy a product, all I can do when I make my purchasing decision is to evaluate the product as it is at purchase time. If the vendor also has the ability and right to change that product whenever they want, then what I’m actually buying is a pretty big question mark. And unless they’ve got some kind of other revenue stream on the line, their only real incentive to avoid doing so is the reputational hit they take…which for failing brands or companies, may not be all that large.

One constraint for efficient markets is that the consumers in it need to be informed as to what they’re buying. If they don’t have that property, you can get market failure. And a consumer can’t be informed about what he’s buying if the person selling them the product can change that product at any point after purchase.

But… but Stelantis is working to reduce the frequency of the ads! Don’t you know that the company that implemented this practice is witerawally powerless to stop it, they’re doing everything they can to make this change (that they made) better for EVERYONE, because they understand our frustration and they care 🥺👉🏽👈🏽

I’ll buy a jeep but it will have to be at least 20 years old.

I hate to make such a sweeping generalization (but here goes!), but many of the Jeep drivers I’ve encountered on the road have already brought me to the same conclusion.

What was the one with premium subscription for heated seats? I think it was Mercedes.

…and I think Audi dabbled in this area but backed down.

Ao that’s Mercedes, Audi, and Jeep I’ll never buy from, and obviously Tesla too.

EDIT Oh dear, it’s so much worsethan I knew:

https://www.google.com/search?q=car+companies+with+subscription+services

TOYOTA how could you???

We used to own a 2008-ish Wrangler, and it’s the single worst car anyone in my family has ever owned. There wasn’t one redeeming quality about this vehicle, except for that it makes you look like an asshole, and apparently some people are into that

Luckily it’s a jeep, so you can just take those off.

The horror I felt at reading this, and not in a sci-fi horror way. In a “watching Black Mirror from three seasons ago and realizing this will happen next year” kind of way.

Just like how tvs, phones and computers won’t stop ads until you make full eye contact with the screen with volume up. It’s not here yet but I bet by 2030 we’ll have must watch ads

“Volume control disabled.”

Then the windows all go opaque so you can’t be distracted by the outside world

Don’t giv’em ideas…

Don’t giv’em ideas…